How to Charge An Air Conditioner That Is Low On Freon Through The Suction Side Real Time

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Okay, a nice old unit has a unit low on Freon.
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Can you see one of these
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energy
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uh ...
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devices that switch the AC on the front of the unit some of the electrical companies here in California
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hook these up so they can rotate the
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unity at peak hours and if they succeed at a bit of uh ... energy
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saving you, gives you a cheaper rate on you
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air conditioner. This one is real
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mounted on the service door.
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Anyway I'm going to take off this door.
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And I have a unit that is low on Freon.
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It's not that cool.
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At least not cooling anyway very well.
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Get in this and as
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I'll go down
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and turn the unit up
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Get the door here. Set it aside. There we go. Let's see what's going on here.
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I'm going to go ahead and get me
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meters here.
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And if lift it up here.
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My gauges are not in the best shape especially the high end, so I'm just going to load it through the low end today.
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It's time for me to order a few new meters.
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Right here is our service line hook up.
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And what you want to do is make sure
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the valve is off
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up here
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on the low side and the high side. OK
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Now remove my Schrader valve cap and listen for any kind of mockery.
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Indicate whether there is a leak.
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And it looks Ok.
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And it has these quick connecting accessories. You always want to use these quick connect accessories.
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You really want to wear gloves but since I'm just going through the high
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side. Not so bad I mean I just go through the low side. It's not that bad on the low side.
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A little worse on the high side.
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Ok now that
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line is hooked there we want to make sure we clear any air
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of the lines.
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And if I go ahead and the middle yellow line can hook our coolant.
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To the top.
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And again
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one
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Quick Connect
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here. You do not need a quick connection here on the
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center line as much
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because you can turn the coolant down here.
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But anyway I have one on there like that.
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And they are going to be able to open refrigerant here.
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and it's R-22. Ok.
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Here we go and as our line cleans here
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So I'm just going to crack it.
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Leave out some of the coolant. And now we are ready to raise it. So I'm just going to open it for a second and please sit down and turn the unit up so we can ask.
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Yeah it feels like it's so low. Ok I'm going to walk downstairs.
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Then back.
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Ok. So it was at the moment. Everything is going well.
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The fan car is running.
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The compressor kicked on.
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and
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you can see it's like just ten pounds of pressure.
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Not too good.
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Definitely low on Freon like that.
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Oh yeah. Sounds thirsty. So I was busy in this unit yesterday
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and the air conditioner noticed was not cool so I knew I needed to get up here today.
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Get up here early before it gets hot.
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Here is the accumulator and it is getting cold
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It is cold about half way up
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Anyway I'm just going to be doing one feel
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Because like I said my meters
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is kind of on their last leg.
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Time to replace them.
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See how loose I mean it can get tight, but
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also the needles are kind of bent and the caps
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is falling
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allowing time for some new meters
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but it is a cappilary tube system and
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The nice thing about a capillary tube system is it is a lot more forgiving than other systems
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It could actually be you should actually really kind of try to
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pay extra late this
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Anyway if it's nice and cold here on both sides of the accumulator as I know it's going to be good. So I'm just going to
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Wait until these flashes are nice and freezing cold.
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And as I said when I did
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put a little extra refrigerant in it is going to be okay, because it's just it keeps in the pot.
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And the way the capillary tube system works is
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It is a fixed opening so that
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It just lets in so much coolant at a time
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You know if you pay a little extra this is not what you want
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can get more refrigerant through.
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It just saves it here and lets it pass.
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As long as you just load
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with vapor.
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You do not want to be able to turn and charge it with liquid because if the liquid is force
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stay in the lines
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and can actually cause fluid slugging of the compressor
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You can probably listen to the coolant
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goes into the system
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You can hear the change now as the pressure is on
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balanced and more closer to where they are
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you should
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hear the sound difference become less coolant
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sucked in as it began to climb.
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We definitely have a leak somewhere. Possibly here at the Schrader valve.
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And this is where you usually get your lick. You can kind of see some signs of moisture or oil right there. I kind of suspect it is from the Schrader valve. I'll pop it off and take a peak inside the high end.
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You can hear, the pressure now differs from the coolant that goes into a lot less than when we first did it. And it doesn't appear to be leaking from the Schrader valve so I'll go ahead and turn it back on.
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What I have is a leak repair add-on that I can add to the system because this one is good all summer long. It didn't go low on refrigerant or anything, so it just has a small micro leak in it somewhere. This additive is kind of good for as long as there is no moisture in the system. Ok, and the feeling of my line is still not cold. It's kind of hot. And we can see what our pressure is here. I'll try to get the camera to focus a bit. There we go. We go ahead and turn the hand valve off.
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Look where was up. Was over about £ 40 print there
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and on the green dial was only fifteen
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we have a way to go. You can probably hear it I'm about to turn back on.
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I hear a lot of people don't like these Janitrolls too much, though
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they are fairly easy to work up. Simple.
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Maybe I just got used to them now.
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Been here for a while.
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The kind of nice thing about the net
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load through the low end.
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If you use the high end you can get
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more of an accurate
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read what your refrigerant levels are but the nice thing about using only
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the low side
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it really is
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is going to release less Freon
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in the air
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in the atmosphere
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when you clean the high side
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it can be a lot more Freon out
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and you know the high side is your liquid side so that when
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you disconnect your hose to your finish
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and you have to release it too
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friend what in the pipe
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all that liquid refrigerant is there
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to release you with everything
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but it just goes through the low side
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this is the release of a little less Freon. I'm sure some people disagree with me, but that's OK.
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anyway when you work with refrigerant you long enough
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will probably be a day where you reach
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meters really do not work properly
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and you are going to need to be able to feel the unity
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or by temperature
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and the other way we can do it
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Look for the 15-20 degree split within the unit on an incoming and outgoing register.
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I have a video on that if you want to see that I can link to this video.
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She starts to get there.
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This is the beginning of a little colder feeling down here. Allright.
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On the roof
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Palm Springs here.
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Gives you a little view around. Look around.
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While this thing is asking here.
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Pretty nice on that
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palm trees here.
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My palm trees are due for some pruning.
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Do you have a lot of dates on them.
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Pretty good dates.
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I snacked on some.
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If you look around you can see the mountains there.
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Its a pretty cool day.
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It actually cooled down here now.
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This summer was a little lighter.
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I think the hottest it has in one nineteen, something like it was.
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I remember a few days where it was a hundred and sixteen. It was pretty hot.
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but I have other summers where it hit as high as a hundred and twenty seven degrees and
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so this summer was pretty light.
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I left easily.
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I got through and well
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our prevalent maintenanced
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the heck out of our air conditioning units to make it a better summer so. We have a much better summer.
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It can take any time.
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There are a few ways to speed up the charge.
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With the compressor low on Freon
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help the Freon cool
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the compressor and
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with the compressor low on Freon the compressor starts to get pretty hot.
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If you pack an ice cream, you can put it on top here and that charge can accelerate. Or some really cold water, so I have some really cold water. And I'm just going to pour it here. Avoid electrical contacts, of course. And that helps speed up the charge a bit. She starts to get there.
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Ok, after I'm done I'll follow it up with that leaking additive. To seal any leaks here.
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See this line down to the bottom of the compressor
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kind of funny
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it is actually a heater. It heats the bottom of the compressor.
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And what does it help when it first starts to be in kind of the right state for starting the compressor.
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Right here is a filter drier.
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You can see the arrow
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this way.
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On a heat pump the arrow shows both ways, because a heat pump has
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a reversing valve where it changes the direction true if here around the condenser is the removal of heat from the unit.
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and at the evaporator it absorbs heat. On a heat pump it can switch to where you know the
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evaporator is absorbing heat and the condenser emits the heat
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it can switch on a heat pump back to where now the condenser becomes the evaporator
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And the evaporator becomes the condenser. They switch roles. So you can heat your unit with a heat pump or you can cool a unit. Heat pumps are a lot more sensitive about the charge.
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Your charge should be a lot more accurate where as I talked to you these units capillary tubes so they are a lot more forgiving. It's around. Drink a little water myself.
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Give yourself another shot of Palm Springs here.
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The mountains there.
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There is a tram that goes all the way to the top of the mountain up there. I think there's like a cafe
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stuff like that.
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I've been here for like eight years
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I haven't got there yet.
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A day maybe.
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Or not
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A bird snacking on a few dates there. Happy campers. Alright see how we do here. It's around. It just takes a little time.
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This unit seems to be in pretty good condition
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for being 26 years old. Still kicking. Still kicking out of the cool air. How do you get there.
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It is an accumulator
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it helps prevent liquid refrigerant from getting to the
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compressor and slugging the pistons.
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A lot of units these days do not have on them some of the heat pumps have it inside the unit.
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These people did outside. They seem to be
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a few extra steps to preserve these units. This one doesn't have it, but on
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some of these other kids they have a like another safety device this one is taken out as on the high side it is a small piston in it has turned off as a protective.
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See if one of the other units has it. I'll be to you here. This one doesn't.
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bring you here if it takes a little time. Wow all these units are gone.
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Looks like they have it out on this whole roof.
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Maybe I'm not going to show you.
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Here's one. See this deal here.
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Not exactly sure what you call it exactly.
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Maybe someone else can tell me.
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And exactly how it works I am not sure whether I think it has just like a
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suck what
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cut the flow, if something is wrong. If something is wrong in the
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system.
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Something a little more for me to learn about.
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There is always more.
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Anyway back to our unit going there.
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You can see this service mats.
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You always want to do yours
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refrigerant work,
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your air condition works, on the mats.
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Especially if you are a fan car is changing or being in a new unit. You do not want to put any pieces into the built-in roofing material. In any case, it is colder. Haven't been there yet.
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Disconnect box is there.
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Kind of funny story I've heard from a few places
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where the disconnect
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they stole people from all the units. They steal air conditioning units.
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Some rougher areas
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some drastic methods, but anyway.
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I heard about where they were, what they were doing
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they were bypassing the disconnnect
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so if you like
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turn off power to work on the unit you want to go to the unit itself and
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turn off the offender.
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It's kind of like an electric fence
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I was thinking about it is kinda like with an electric fence
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a detergent for people stealing units, stealing refrigerant, and
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steal the entire units.
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and by the power where you cannot
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disconnect it
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they were less likely to take those
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and they have the steal of the couple and all that kind of stuff too
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There are some rougher areas out there that call for some
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drastic measures
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not the norm
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but in those situations
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people have to get creative.
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Do something else if there is a
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rough area. Well it is getting nice and cold right now. Still a little ways. Maybe a little more water on the compressor here. To try and speed it up.
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I can feel it flash a lot, you know, after I put the water on.
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And if I feel it here. At the unit it is just that
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looks like all of a sudden it draws a lot more refrigerant.
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It is now starting to flash nicely and cold. We're almost there.
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Now I don't know if you can see it so much in camera, but you can start to see
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a bit of sweat
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on the line.
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If this gets colder. Not quite there, but we're really close. This is the small high side line to the compressor.
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What you want to avoid
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touch that especially at the end.
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I mean here
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this part of it is not that hot.
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But it is very hot. I have burned my arm many times by accident. Touch that aghhh tshhh. Seems like not the best soldering work off there, but no problem the worst I've seen.
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This kind of looks like a newer compressor to keep it from being the original
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compressor. I'm just guessing. Like it was replaced at some point. Augh yes we get nice and cold.
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Chilly, Chilli.
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The final test will again be checking for the 15-20 degree split inside.
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But that's going to happen. I've done enough to know about this
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the way it is. Was good now. Nice and cold.
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Can't trust my gauges. They are just too old. I need to get some new meter heads. See how it does
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25
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on the green dial.
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Fifty on the print. Pretty cool today. Man, what a difference it makes. I think it's supposed to be like a peak of 81 today, 85, I'm not so sure, but it's nice now. Probably about seventy six degrees outside. If feeling good. Good day.
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Ok, we're there now. Nice and cold. So I'm going to go ahead and turn down the line here. And if the line to shut down. Listen for any leaks there. And everything is OK. And if
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make sure we put our Schrader valve cap back on.
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It's like keeping our second port of refrigerant in the system. I like to do them 1/4 turn past tight with my tongs. Not too crazy, just crazy enough. So there we go.
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We're good there. Come on over here,
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and turn off our coolant can.
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Disconnect our hoses.
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If we release the refrigerant
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of the line. We do not want it too late
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which is stored there. Unless I'm going to go and ask another unit right away what I am
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no.
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So I'm just going to go ahead and release it. There we go, and now she's out. That one too. The middle one.
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Like I said as we got the high side hooked up when we did
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to release it what you would
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just see it Shhh
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spraying out like a white mist coming out
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a lot more refrigerant gets trapped
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in that line.
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And that's kind of the benefit only in connecting on the high end (I mean low end).
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really the more accurate method is to hook on the high end, but anyway.
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We're good here. Alright.
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Ok so here it is inside the unit. It has already dropped to
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75
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I think it starts at 78 79.
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Something like that.
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And the air feels nice and cool coming out of the vent. Let's go back here to
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where the evaporator. The air handler right here.
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And just as on the roof, the low side should be nice and cold all the way to the right here.
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And it is. Nice and cold.
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You can see it. You can kind of see it start to sweat. You can see on my finger. For a second
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how it's like moisture.
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So that's why we have the isolation here.
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So oh it's pretty and chilly.Perfect it sees the moisture on my finger there. There we go. We have drained our condenstae. The drain is waiting
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Alright here. Good old groove connection supply lines.
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Good to go.
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