CHOOSING THE BEST BOILER... for us

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hi I'm Tim welcome to the restoration
00:00:01.579 00:00:01.589 couple in today's video we're going to
00:00:03.139 00:00:03.149 be taking a look at our new beautiful
00:00:04.670 00:00:04.680 boiler but kind of the decision making
00:00:07.280 00:00:07.290 process and how we ended up with it in
00:00:09.110 00:00:09.120 the first place so stick around and
00:00:11.060 00:00:11.070 we'll get right to it
00:00:13.620 00:00:13.630 as you can see is bit cold today very
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00:00:20.020 00:00:20.030 it's lovely and toasty in there and
00:00:21.730 00:00:21.740 that's thanks to having this boiler all
00:00:23.350 00:00:23.360 installed and working doing a sterling
00:00:26.859 00:00:26.869 job so today's video is gonna be a bit
00:00:29.109 00:00:29.119 more of a technical one and I'll kind of
00:00:31.450 00:00:31.460 try and cover a few of the details about
00:00:33.430 00:00:33.440 the boiler and why we picked it why it
00:00:35.319 00:00:35.329 was a good fit for the house and then in
00:00:37.510 00:00:37.520 the next video we'll be doing all the
00:00:39.280 00:00:39.290 fun stuff or I say we I'll be filming at
00:00:42.040 00:00:42.050 the install when Jason our plumber came
00:00:44.950 00:00:44.960 over how do we end up with a boiler well
00:00:46.720 00:00:46.730 I put a plea out to plumbers and heating
00:00:49.840 00:00:49.850 engine is on Instagram and other people
00:00:52.060 00:00:52.070 I knew and I said look we were getting
00:00:54.400 00:00:54.410 rid of our biomass wood pellet boiler
00:00:56.290 00:00:56.300 which would prove to be a little bit too
00:00:59.290 00:00:59.300 much work for the size of house we've
00:01:01.240 00:01:01.250 got and it was taking up so much space
00:01:03.250 00:01:03.260 in here and we really needed this room
00:01:05.800 00:01:05.810 back so I said kind of what what boiler
00:01:08.620 00:01:08.630 would you have in that situation and
00:01:10.830 00:01:10.840 these men seem to come up all the time
00:01:14.470 00:01:14.480 again and again and I and I guess those
00:01:17.020 00:01:17.030 are the people who have seen them the
00:01:18.250 00:01:18.260 most they're the ones that are servicing
00:01:19.900 00:01:19.910 them and from their perspective and it
00:01:22.510 00:01:22.520 was a really safe bet and a really good
00:01:24.250 00:01:24.260 way to go and at that point we also had
00:01:26.710 00:01:26.720 this discussion with Ethan and they were
00:01:28.120 00:01:28.130 wanting to reach out and kind of help us
00:01:30.160 00:01:30.170 in this situation where you know we
00:01:32.230 00:01:32.240 needed a new boiler we were gonna be
00:01:33.910 00:01:33.920 filming the install and it just seemed
00:01:35.680 00:01:35.690 like a good fit to do a collaboration so
00:01:38.140 00:01:38.150 these one were able to guide us through
00:01:40.140 00:01:40.150 what boiler was gonna suit best for us
00:01:43.420 00:01:43.430 here along with our installer and what
00:01:48.040 00:01:48.050 we decided on is the vivid ins
00:01:50.260 00:01:50.270 100 there's two models which could have
00:01:53.380 00:01:53.390 worked here there's the 200 which is got
00:01:55.630 00:01:55.640 a few more bells and whistles on it but
00:01:58.750 00:01:58.760 for us it was really about something
00:02:01.330 00:02:01.340 that's super efficient super reliable
00:02:04.690 00:02:04.700 and something that we could kind of kind
00:02:07.420 00:02:07.430 of leave to itself and both of those
00:02:10.029 00:02:10.039 models do that now we needed that one of
00:02:11.920 00:02:11.930 the higher output to 35 kilowatt size
00:02:16.420 00:02:16.430 and that just future-proofed us for the
00:02:19.020 00:02:19.030 extension work and these rooms that
00:02:21.250 00:02:21.260 we're putting in as well but you know it
00:02:24.280 00:02:24.290 can modulate down as well so it's not
00:02:26.260 00:02:26.270 like it's going
00:02:27.170 00:02:27.180 blacks out all the time so the boiler
00:02:28.940 00:02:28.950 had to go in before the rest of this
00:02:31.220 00:02:31.230 room was built because it's simply so
00:02:33.140 00:02:33.150 close to winter we couldn't risk putting
00:02:35.420 00:02:35.430 it off any longer and when it went in
00:02:38.479 00:02:38.489 there was a few things that we had to
00:02:40.699 00:02:40.709 work with one was the existing pipe work
00:02:43.280 00:02:43.290 we've done so much renovation work
00:02:45.259 00:02:45.269 inside the house that we couldn't really
00:02:47.390 00:02:47.400 start putting a new pipe system into the
00:02:50.750 00:02:50.760 house so we had to work with what we had
00:02:52.309 00:02:52.319 and that was a standard flow and return
00:02:55.270 00:02:55.280 system
00:02:56.509 00:02:56.519 I think it's an S plan we're going up to
00:02:59.240 00:02:59.250 the hot water cylinder up in the year
00:03:01.460 00:03:01.470 and the first floor now this is a system
00:03:04.159 00:03:04.169 boiler which means it it works like a an
00:03:06.830 00:03:06.840 old-school conventional boiler it's
00:03:08.420 00:03:08.430 heating the house and a hot water
00:03:10.220 00:03:10.230 cylinder rather than a combi boiler
00:03:12.199 00:03:12.209 which is kind of heating on your water
00:03:14.809 00:03:14.819 on demand so from that respect it was a
00:03:18.349 00:03:18.359 fairly straightforward or so I thought
00:03:20.869 00:03:20.879 in that we will kind of just tying into
00:03:23.089 00:03:23.099 the existing pipe work but there's a
00:03:25.819 00:03:25.829 little bit more to this boiler and a few
00:03:29.119 00:03:29.129 extras that we had to work with right
00:03:30.770 00:03:30.780 let's try and get through a few more of
00:03:33.199 00:03:33.209 the terminologies so we've done system
00:03:37.219 00:03:37.229 boiler that's what this is then you've
00:03:39.469 00:03:39.479 got a two pipe and a four pipe system
00:03:41.479 00:03:41.489 four pipe and the two pipe is the
00:03:44.210 00:03:44.220 conventional set up I guess that's what
00:03:46.640 00:03:46.650 we were used to where you've got that
00:03:48.469 00:03:48.479 flow going to the house it's doing the
00:03:51.020 00:03:51.030 radiators but it's also doing the hot
00:03:53.569 00:03:53.579 water cylinder and you've got you know
00:03:55.819 00:03:55.829 motorized valves to to control those the
00:03:59.030 00:03:59.040 four pipe option what that lets you do
00:04:01.879 00:04:01.889 is is it basically treats them as two
00:04:04.460 00:04:04.470 separate circuits so your hot water
00:04:08.360 00:04:08.370 cylinder where you kind of need your hot
00:04:10.640 00:04:10.650 water to be up at sixty degrees let's
00:04:12.530 00:04:12.540 say you're higher it's gonna put that
00:04:15.349 00:04:15.359 temperature through that coil and then
00:04:17.990 00:04:18.000 back down and take it to temperature but
00:04:20.390 00:04:20.400 it allows you to bring your radiator
00:04:23.540 00:04:23.550 temperatures down to a lower level so
00:04:25.610 00:04:25.620 that might be beneficial if it's not so
00:04:27.950 00:04:27.960 cold outside or if it's spring or autumn
00:04:30.460 00:04:30.470 when you can basically drop your
00:04:32.749 00:04:32.759 radiators down to a much more a lower
00:04:35.330 00:04:35.340 temperature more efficient for the
00:04:36.980 00:04:36.990 boiler
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00:04:40.770 00:04:40.780 but it means your hot water is still
00:04:42.820 00:04:42.830 gonna get the temperature so you have to
00:04:44.770 00:04:44.780 have full pipe system to be able to
00:04:46.740 00:04:46.750 enable that side of it and this allows
00:04:50.230 00:04:50.240 for its odors of 200 because of that
00:04:53.909 00:04:53.919 scenario I said if the pipe work and
00:04:56.110 00:04:56.120 they said you know these big solid stone
00:04:57.670 00:04:57.680 walls it wasn't the time for us to do
00:05:00.010 00:05:00.020 that but it's nice to know we can
00:05:01.450 00:05:01.460 upgrade this and just run those two
00:05:03.940 00:05:03.950 extras across and it just means that we
00:05:07.150 00:05:07.160 can kind of really bring down in
00:05:08.830 00:05:08.840 certainly an arthouse spring and autumn
00:05:10.780 00:05:10.790 we can bring those temperatures of the
00:05:12.790 00:05:12.800 radiators down and keep the hot water as
00:05:15.159 00:05:15.169 it is now where the compensation or
00:05:17.620 00:05:17.630 weather comp is the other thing that
00:05:20.110 00:05:20.120 comes up again and again with these
00:05:22.060 00:05:22.070 modern boilers and these reasons are
00:05:24.370 00:05:24.380 really good at that and basically that's
00:05:26.200 00:05:26.210 gonna measure your outdoor temperature
00:05:28.030 00:05:28.040 with a sensor I guess and and it will
00:05:30.969 00:05:30.979 it'll heat your your radiators
00:05:34.150 00:05:34.160 accordingly so if it happens to be a
00:05:35.950 00:05:35.960 nice warm day then it will drop the
00:05:38.050 00:05:38.060 temperature of your radiators to account
00:05:40.270 00:05:40.280 for that and so again it's just these
00:05:43.300 00:05:43.310 little incremental bits to make the
00:05:44.920 00:05:44.930 boiler more and more efficient now for
00:05:47.710 00:05:47.720 our house I didn't think that that was
00:05:50.980 00:05:50.990 going to be enough of a again we'd need
00:05:53.830 00:05:53.840 the full pipe system for that really and
00:05:55.779 00:05:55.789 I didn't think it was going to be enough
00:05:57.670 00:05:57.680 of a bonus to go to the extent of that
00:05:59.620 00:05:59.630 work and and to warrant going for the
00:06:01.930 00:06:01.940 full pipe weather compensation system
00:06:04.210 00:06:04.220 the 200 has it I think the 100 has it or
00:06:07.870 00:06:07.880 you can you can add it to it so again it
00:06:11.740 00:06:11.750 can be an upgrade but for us knowing our
00:06:14.440 00:06:14.450 heating demand in this house we've been
00:06:15.909 00:06:15.919 here five years we know how much heat it
00:06:17.740 00:06:17.750 needs and really it needs those
00:06:19.480 00:06:19.490 temperatures of the radiators to be up
00:06:21.340 00:06:21.350 pretty high so weather compensation on
00:06:23.590 00:06:23.600 hold for us perfect for the majority of
00:06:26.620 00:06:26.630 homes and I just think for us it we'd
00:06:29.980 00:06:29.990 need to do some a little bit more
00:06:31.390 00:06:31.400 insulation to the house and to make it
00:06:34.510 00:06:34.520 worth doing
00:06:36.029 00:06:36.039 goodness me I really wanted to get this
00:06:38.379 00:06:38.389 video out but I could have waited until
00:06:39.550 00:06:39.560 this room was finished okay and next
00:06:43.060 00:06:43.070 thing to talk about I'm gonna getting
00:06:44.350 00:06:44.360 out my comfort zone a little bit now
00:06:45.820 00:06:45.830 we'll talk about the guts of this thing
00:06:47.500 00:06:47.510 inside there is the heat exchanger
00:06:49.750 00:06:49.760 which does all the work and in the 100
00:06:52.870 00:06:52.880 and the 200 I believe that's the same
00:06:54.360 00:06:54.370 heat exchanger and that is where the the
00:06:58.270 00:06:58.280 reliability and and the efficiency and
00:07:00.910 00:07:00.920 everything happens and really and it
00:07:03.220 00:07:03.230 doesn't get much better than what's in
00:07:04.540 00:07:04.550 this B's Minh so that was another plus
00:07:07.270 00:07:07.280 and again that information just came in
00:07:09.190 00:07:09.200 from all these different people on
00:07:10.390 00:07:10.400 social media at plumbers who are just
00:07:12.430 00:07:12.440 servicing the beginning again and they
00:07:13.900 00:07:13.910 said this is the way to go another thing
00:07:16.420 00:07:16.430 to mention is the two hundred model the
00:07:18.460 00:07:18.470 Rolls Royce which is just a little bit
00:07:20.200 00:07:20.210 up from this one you can actually vary
00:07:22.660 00:07:22.670 your temperatures of different zones so
00:07:24.940 00:07:24.950 like the four pipes four pipes system
00:07:27.130 00:07:27.140 where you've got the flow temperature
00:07:29.020 00:07:29.030 for the hot water being higher than your
00:07:31.210 00:07:31.220 radiators I think you can I have and
00:07:34.240 00:07:34.250 your underfloor heating for instance on
00:07:36.730 00:07:36.740 a you know a lower flow temp which is
00:07:39.670 00:07:39.680 what you want yet if you've got
00:07:41.560 00:07:41.570 radiators you can keep them higher so
00:07:43.180 00:07:43.190 that's another thing I mean that that
00:07:44.530 00:07:44.540 two hundred really is a good way to go
00:07:46.300 00:07:46.310 and perhaps it would have been relevant
00:07:49.270 00:07:49.280 even more relevant here now that we've
00:07:51.700 00:07:51.710 got some underfloor heating going in but
00:07:54.100 00:07:54.110 we've got the existing set up which will
00:07:56.560 00:07:56.570 blend it down and it should be able to
00:07:58.030 00:07:58.040 fight let's get up and move around a bit
00:07:59.830 00:07:59.840 some frozen to the floor right remember
00:08:03.850 00:08:03.860 where we are now hypothermia setting in
00:08:05.650 00:08:05.660 and so the the boiler came with the
00:08:08.950 00:08:08.960 horizontal flu kit which basically takes
00:08:12.160 00:08:12.170 it straight out through the external
00:08:13.900 00:08:13.910 wall and we're just under two meters the
00:08:16.420 00:08:16.430 other side so it's gonna have to have a
00:08:18.130 00:08:18.140 cage over the flue outlet but really is
00:08:22.540 00:08:22.550 super compact for it I mean this is the
00:08:24.730 00:08:24.740 35 kilowatt and I imagine Li the lower
00:08:27.280 00:08:27.290 models are much much smaller but coming
00:08:30.580 00:08:30.590 from what we had before which was that
00:08:32.200 00:08:32.210 monster of the biomass boiler which was
00:08:35.380 00:08:35.390 a great bit of engineering but it just
00:08:37.510 00:08:37.520 the the amount of space that it took up
00:08:39.780 00:08:39.790 was was not really that practical okay a
00:08:43.060 00:08:43.070 little bit on modulating now basically
00:08:46.420 00:08:46.430 what that means it's just that the
00:08:47.830 00:08:47.840 boiler can adapt its output when the
00:08:50.350 00:08:50.360 demands lower it can modulate down so
00:08:52.900 00:08:52.910 it's not just working flat out all the
00:08:54.550 00:08:54.560 time and Jason gave me a really good
00:08:57.700 00:08:57.710 analogy when I was filming the install
00:08:59.410 00:08:59.420 and I'll try to put that bit in here
00:09:01.900 00:09:01.910 he's basically
00:09:03.650 00:09:03.660 I'm trying to explain to me in layman's
00:09:05.990 00:09:06.000 terms if you were going to throw it from
00:09:08.360 00:09:08.370 here here I saw here the path and you do
00:09:13.640 00:09:13.650 you think it'd be more efficient to
00:09:15.700 00:09:15.710 drive 90 miles an hour 10 miles an hour
00:09:19.700 00:09:19.710 90 miles an hour at 10 miles an hour or
00:09:21.800 00:09:21.810 do you think they'd be more efficient to
00:09:22.910 00:09:22.920 drive it 40 all the way there and you
00:09:25.700 00:09:25.710 get there at the same time though as the
00:09:27.080 00:09:27.090 boy who fires up who's straight flat
00:09:28.640 00:09:28.650 site goes off and goes straight the flat
00:09:31.280 00:09:31.290 site and goes off such a saint hanging
00:09:32.930 00:09:32.940 it whereas if you can keep it right now
00:09:34.580 00:09:34.590 I mean it's working out it's almost
00:09:36.740 00:09:36.750 moderate and lowest point so hopefully
00:09:38.840 00:09:38.850 that makes a bit more sense and
00:09:40.240 00:09:40.250 certainly if you drive the car it
00:09:42.050 00:09:42.060 probably does and it just means that
00:09:44.120 00:09:44.130 this spoiler when we're when we're under
00:09:46.070 00:09:46.080 a much lower demand in the house that it
00:09:48.680 00:09:48.690 will just drop down and there's some
00:09:50.300 00:09:50.310 graduations on here on the screen
00:09:52.600 00:09:52.610 underneath the the flow temperature this
00:09:55.370 00:09:55.380 and graduations there and there's I
00:09:57.710 00:09:57.720 think five or six and you can see at the
00:09:59.870 00:09:59.880 moment only the first one is highlighted
00:10:01.400 00:10:01.410 and that basically means the house is up
00:10:03.350 00:10:03.360 to temperature almost and it's just
00:10:05.870 00:10:05.880 modulated right down it's just on tick
00:10:07.670 00:10:07.680 over what that means is that the only
00:10:10.370 00:10:10.380 first thing in the morning really when
00:10:12.320 00:10:12.330 it's really cold of course we're not in
00:10:13.760 00:10:13.770 the middle of winter yet but this we're
00:10:15.740 00:10:15.750 not using the full capacity of the
00:10:17.360 00:10:17.370 boiler which means it's kind of ramping
00:10:19.460 00:10:19.470 up a little bit more in the morning and
00:10:21.110 00:10:21.120 then it drops it down as the demand goes
00:10:23.270 00:10:23.280 down but what that means really is that
00:10:25.190 00:10:25.200 this boiler has got the potential in it
00:10:27.140 00:10:27.150 still for when we finished this side of
00:10:29.750 00:10:29.760 it which is another 40 square meters it
00:10:32.000 00:10:32.010 should be well insulated but it's
00:10:33.440 00:10:33.450 another you know heating demand on the
00:10:35.720 00:10:35.730 house and the other bathroom so this it
00:10:38.330 00:10:38.340 means it's future proofing basically so
00:10:40.310 00:10:40.320 I'm hoping that kind of that explains it
00:10:43.040 00:10:43.050 and that at least I've got that right so
00:10:45.380 00:10:45.390 I'm gonna leave this video here it as I
00:10:47.630 00:10:47.640 said it was just all about the technical
00:10:49.100 00:10:49.110 background to get in the boiler but the
00:10:51.470 00:10:51.480 next video is where it all happens the
00:10:53.210 00:10:53.220 action-packed stuff and it was really
00:10:54.590 00:10:54.600 nice for me to get behind the camera and
00:10:57.230 00:10:57.240 off the tools and kind of get a little
00:10:59.420 00:10:59.430 bit more arty with it this is a great
00:11:01.730 00:11:01.740 video it's gonna be out in a couple of
00:11:02.870 00:11:02.880 days time so make sure that you
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00:11:09.920 00:11:09.930 apart from that if you got any questions
00:11:12.110 00:11:12.120 put them down below if I can't answer
00:11:14.030 00:11:14.040 them I'm sure one of the reason guys
00:11:15.500 00:11:15.510 will be
00:11:16.009 00:11:16.019 here or another and heating engineer
00:11:17.479 00:11:17.489 plumber will be able to answer your
00:11:19.249 00:11:19.259 questions because I'm just a lay person
00:11:21.470 00:11:21.480 needing a warm house this winter but
00:11:24.619 00:11:24.629 again I can't express enough thanks to
00:11:26.989 00:11:26.999 Jason our installer I'll put his link
00:11:29.119 00:11:29.129 down below and also two V's but of
00:11:31.639 00:11:31.649 course for helping us out and
00:11:32.929 00:11:32.939 collaborating on the video I know that
00:11:35.119 00:11:35.129 there's three girls in that house who
00:11:36.590 00:11:36.600 are very very grateful I believe or not
00:11:38.840 00:11:38.850 this is the first winter in five years
00:11:40.999 00:11:41.009 that we've gone in to November with a
00:11:43.100 00:11:43.110 working boiler I always say working the
00:11:45.619 00:11:45.629 first you or first couple years we were
00:11:47.509 00:11:47.519 struggling with that old oil boiler
00:11:49.039 00:11:49.049 there were issues there then we had the
00:11:51.139 00:11:51.149 biomass boiler for three years and in
00:11:53.660 00:11:53.670 those three years although the boiler
00:11:55.819 00:11:55.829 was pretty much faultless most of the
00:11:58.340 00:11:58.350 time we were lugging around those
00:12:00.259 00:12:00.269 pellets and a lot a lot of fellows it
00:12:04.729 00:12:04.739 was keeping me fit but it was also
00:12:06.229 00:12:06.239 dragging me down so now we've got a
00:12:08.539 00:12:08.549 really good option here freed up a
00:12:11.419 00:12:11.429 massive space and hopefully I can get
00:12:14.509 00:12:14.519 this place finished and it'll all be
00:12:16.039 00:12:16.049 wrapped up nicely in a nice warm cozy
00:12:19.429 00:12:19.439 utility and his crack on got ceilings to
00:12:22.280 00:12:22.290 finish insulation to put in and walls to
00:12:24.470 00:12:24.480 build so thanks for watching around er
00:12:26.030 00:12:26.040 if you can do it yourself I will see you
00:12:28.100 00:12:28.110 next time
00:12:37.830 00:12:37.840 you
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