Cranking a Car with Super Capacitors (Supercap)

WEBVTT
Kind: captions
Language: en

00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:00.700
Hi.
00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:08.620
I have jump started my car with AA batteries before, but now I want to try and see if I can jump start with supercapacitors or supercaps.
00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:12.000
As we know, capacitors hold electric charge like a battery.
00:00:12.200 --> 00:00:13.960
What's so super about these?
00:00:14.120 --> 00:00:24.620
This is a 100 millifarad, 6.3 volt electrolytic capacitor, but this is a supercapacitor rated for 2.7 volts, and it is 400 farads!
00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:26.420
(Outside voice) Stop yelling at the camera!
00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:27.160
Sh*t.
00:00:27.460 --> 00:00:33.840
So, at the same voltage, this supercap can hold 4000 times more charge compared to this electrolytic cap.
00:00:34.040 --> 00:00:37.320
Can you digest that? Of course not. It's filled with with chemicals.
00:00:37.700 --> 00:00:45.020
But that's a lot of charge for a capacitor, that is. Still, this AA battery can hold 20 times more charge compared to this supercap.
00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:54.180
The upside? The supercap has a much smaller series resistance of 3.2 milliohms compared to a typical AA battery, which is around 200 milliohms.
00:00:54.560 --> 00:01:02.220
So if I charge this to 2.13 volts and short it, it can deliver up to 666 amps of current.
00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:07.000
Coincidence? I think not. Because the current is equal to voltage divided by resistance.
00:01:07.320 --> 00:01:08.540
Let me charge it and short it.
00:01:08.740 --> 00:01:12.380
I'll charge this cap with a fixed 10 amps from my power supply.
00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:22.200
Bluhuhuh! Ha ha ha! You thought the cap was gonna blow, oh no no no! Sir, these expensive, I careful! (kiss)
00:01:22.380 --> 00:01:28.640
I scope the voltage and for the fixed 10 amp current, the rate of voltage rise is around 25 millivolts per second.
00:01:28.860 --> 00:01:33.300
OK. Let's first short the AA battery and see how much current it can deliver.
00:01:34.960 --> 00:01:36.480
9.6 amps.
00:01:36.620 --> 00:01:38.060
Now, let's short the supercap.
00:01:38.060 --> 00:01:42.540
Of course the resistance of this wire is gonna limit the current through the supercap.
00:01:44.940 --> 00:01:46.960
Oww! Sh*t! F*ck!
00:01:47.020 --> 00:01:49.640
Sh*t! I totally burned my finger!
00:01:49.960 --> 00:01:55.280
The clamp registered 376 amps and we still have 2.2 volts on the supercap.
00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.840
I think we are on the right track for the jump start.
00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:03.260
The downside of the supercaps is that they are generally rated for low voltages like 2.7 volts.
00:02:03.500 --> 00:02:12.100
So in order to increase my capacitor voltage, I have to put 6 of them in series in a bank to bring my voltage up to a maximum of 16.2 volts.
00:02:12.440 --> 00:02:17.540
But that means that my total capacitance will drop by 6 times to 66.6 farads.
00:02:18.140 --> 00:02:21.680
And I have to use high gauge wires to solder them together to make sure...
00:02:21.940 --> 00:02:22.720
ooh sh*t
00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.780
Never solder when your capacitor is charged. It could damage the capacitor or the circuit.
00:02:27.200 --> 00:02:30.880
I'm gonna discharge the capacitor with a low gauge wire to limit the current.
00:02:34.140 --> 00:02:36.840
Wow! This thing can deliver!
00:02:38.200 --> 00:02:42.620
Done. Now let's charge this capacitor bank to 14 volts like a fully charged battery.
00:02:45.980 --> 00:02:47.880
Supercaps have high leakage current.
00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:52.120
This one is around one milliamp that will drain the capacitor in around 13 days.
00:02:52.420 --> 00:02:53.740
I still have lots of time.
00:02:54.220 --> 00:03:01.060
First, I'm going to measure the normal current draw of the crank motor from the battery, and I'm gonna use my current clamp and connect it to my scope.
00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:05.840
First I have to set up a spot for my scope so it doesn't get dirty.
00:03:11.060 --> 00:03:11.700
(kiss)
00:03:11.980 --> 00:03:14.620
There will be a Keysight scope giveaway at the end of the video.
00:03:14.920 --> 00:03:18.960
My assistant here will help me demonstrate a point while I crank the engine.
00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:24.260
You hold on to the battery contacts while I crank the car. And we measure the current on the screen.
00:03:26.620 --> 00:03:28.460
[car starts]
00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:30.400
@#$%!
00:03:30.460 --> 00:03:31.840
Let's try again.
00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:34.800
00:03:36.460 --> 00:03:37.260
Are you okay?
00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:38.360
Yes.
00:03:38.820 --> 00:03:49.520
You can see here that the inrush current into the crank motor is around 750 amps, and quickly drops to around 200 amps while we are cranking the car.
00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:56.180
When the car starts, it charges the battery, here, so that the current goes to negative 30 to 40 amps.
00:03:57.780 --> 00:04:03.240
Now if we look at the battery voltage we see that it starts around 12 volts, and when there is the inrush current,
00:04:03.260 --> 00:04:11.420
the voltage drops to 8 volts, and goes back up to around 11, and then when the car charges the battery, the battery voltage goes to 14 volts.
00:04:11.980 --> 00:04:17.420
So as I suspected, even if you hold on to the wires that carry a lot of current, you won't be electrocuted.
00:04:17.420 --> 00:04:18.680
So you weren't sure?
00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:20.120
Ow! You little...
00:04:20.540 --> 00:04:24.780
Of course I was 100 percent sure, because the voltage across the body is very small.
00:04:24.880 --> 00:04:28.400
Now I disconnect the battery positive to replace it with the capa...
00:04:28.460 --> 00:04:29.440
Dogsh*t!
00:04:30.640 --> 00:04:32.820
I have to remember not to short the battery.
00:04:33.140 --> 00:04:37.860
Now I connect the capacitors to the power lines with these clamps...
00:04:38.980 --> 00:04:40.340
Let's crank.
00:04:41.500 --> 00:04:43.580
00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:46.640
Done! Perfect!
00:04:46.740 --> 00:04:54.800
Seems like the capacitor bank is good for one crank, as you can see the current jumps to 450 amp, and then quickly drops to 150 amps.
00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:57.720
And also the voltage drops a lot.
00:04:58.380 --> 00:05:07.160
You see here that uhh...from 14 volts almost, it drops to around 6 volts and then goes back up.
00:05:07.300 --> 00:05:11.360
Of course it charges quickly back up to 14 volts as soon as the engine starts going.
00:05:11.620 --> 00:05:14.000
So this can crank a car.
00:05:15.300 --> 00:05:16.800
So I have a new Keysight scope.
00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:21.040
It's like somebody took God and shoved him into a plastic box and gave him a touch screen too.
00:05:21.180 --> 00:05:27.080
It's oozing with power. It's a 1 gigahertz four channel scope, a 16 bit digital analyzer,
00:05:27.180 --> 00:05:31.680
an arbitrary waveform generator, an 8 digit frequency counter, and more.
00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:32.400
Wowwww!...
00:05:32.460 --> 00:05:33.180
(outside voice) Stop yelling...sshhh
00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:39.400
Now, I have a brand new lower model Keysight scope with most of the same features that I don't need since I have this one.
00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:44.700
So I'm going to give that one away to my supporters at Patreon.com as an ongoing token of appreciation.
00:05:44.880 --> 00:05:47.880
If you want to know how scopes work though, that's not what I do.
00:05:47.980 --> 00:05:52.280
But you can find very good information in the Keysight Oscilloscopes YouTube channel.
Office location
Engineering company LOTUS®
Russia, Ekaterinburg, Lunacharskogo street, 240/12

Phone: +7 343 216 77 75

E-mail: info@lotus1.ru

Sales phone

Russia: +7 343 216 77 75

WhatsApp: +79122710308