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Expert Trane XL16i vs XL18i Air Conditioner & Heat Pump Review

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I'm Ted with on-time air-conditioning
00:00:06.790 00:00:06.800 I'm the co-founder and general manager
00:00:08.680 00:00:08.690 here
00:00:09.490 00:00:09.500 I'm Nate certified I'm a master heat
00:00:11.710 00:00:11.720 pump specialist I've got about 28 years
00:00:14.500 00:00:14.510 in the field we're trained Comfort
00:00:16.720 00:00:16.730 specialists here so trained equipments
00:00:18.790 00:00:18.800 about all that we install it I'd like to
00:00:21.999 00:00:22.009 talk about is the the Excel series of
00:00:25.659 00:00:25.669 the Train condensers that we have today
00:00:28.440 00:00:28.450 I like to start off with the Train Excel
00:00:33.160 00:00:33.170 18 I train excel 18 I the features and
00:00:36.160 00:00:36.170 benefits to it is that it's it's the
00:00:38.020 00:00:38.030 condensing section is completely sealed
00:00:41.160 00:00:41.170 it also has a weatherproof guard on the
00:00:45.790 00:00:45.800 top of it so that no debris can get down
00:00:48.639 00:00:48.649 inside of the unit if you have little
00:00:50.169 00:00:50.179 children they can't put their fingers in
00:00:51.729 00:00:51.739 there get them cut by the fan type thing
00:00:53.590 00:00:53.600 they've got a really nice design to them
00:00:57.150 00:00:57.160 you've got the Train patented all
00:01:00.340 00:01:00.350 aluminum spine and fin tube technology
00:01:02.340 00:01:02.350 condenser coil so basically we have a
00:01:04.570 00:01:04.580 excellent radiator system here it's like
00:01:06.850 00:01:06.860 having a better radiator to your car
00:01:08.700 00:01:08.710 here in Phoenix we have a lot of heat so
00:01:11.830 00:01:11.840 it's really important to keep the
00:01:13.750 00:01:13.760 engines cool and idling and maintain
00:01:17.200 00:01:17.210 some nice cold temperatures in the house
00:01:19.770 00:01:19.780 one of the key benefits to the excel 18i
00:01:23.670 00:01:23.680 condenser is that it is two-stage that
00:01:28.660 00:01:28.670 two stage model compressor as a single
00:01:31.810 00:01:31.820 compressor operates on two gears 75% of
00:01:35.290 00:01:35.300 the time we're running at 70% of its
00:01:39.160 00:01:39.170 rated capacity okay here in Phoenix we
00:01:42.400 00:01:42.410 only need full capacity running when
00:01:44.290 00:01:44.300 we're about a hundred and five degrees
00:01:45.610 00:01:45.620 and above when we size homes out here we
00:01:49.390 00:01:49.400 have two size for the worst-case
00:01:50.770 00:01:50.780 scenario so even if it's a hundred and
00:01:53.680 00:01:53.690 ten at night out here or during a damn
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00:01:56.650 00:01:56.660 at night we drop down at 90 degrees
00:02:00.010 00:02:00.020 we don't need full tonnage running at
00:02:01.990 00:02:02.000 night so 75% of the time here in Phoenix
00:02:04.720 00:02:04.730 we don't need a large engine running
00:02:07.030 00:02:07.040 that cost us too much money in power
00:02:09.190 00:02:09.200 plus we're short cycling the seer
00:02:11.259 00:02:11.269 ratings on the excel 18 can get as high
00:02:13.960 00:02:13.970 as 16 17 seer you know that's rated on
00:02:17.870 00:02:17.880 full tonnage running only because you
00:02:21.770 00:02:21.780 know the ApS SRP they won't recognize
00:02:23.840 00:02:23.850 the lower gear running they want to they
00:02:25.970 00:02:25.980 want to look at it from what it needs
00:02:27.650 00:02:27.660 peak demand pretty much that's one of
00:02:30.500 00:02:30.510 the big features with the excel 18 i
00:02:32.480 00:02:32.490 condenser is that two-stage capability
00:02:34.610 00:02:34.620 where we're dropping you know thirty
00:02:36.680 00:02:36.690 percent of our load you're saving about
00:02:38.480 00:02:38.490 thirty percent of the energy that way in
00:02:40.820 00:02:40.830 your home so it's a great quiet system
00:02:43.070 00:02:43.080 the next series in the excel systems
00:02:45.500 00:02:45.510 that we have out there is what we call
00:02:47.060 00:02:47.070 the excel twenty i now the excel twenty
00:02:50.330 00:02:50.340 I is looks a lot like the excel eighteen
00:02:53.840 00:02:53.850 I unit you know from the outside but the
00:02:56.030 00:02:56.040 inside is a little different the inside
00:02:58.580 00:02:58.590 of a twenty I unit we actually have two
00:03:00.920 00:03:00.930 compressors in there so if you had a
00:03:03.350 00:03:03.360 five ton unit that under max peak load
00:03:07.460 00:03:07.470 demand you needed five tons of air
00:03:09.050 00:03:09.060 conditioning running inside of that
00:03:10.850 00:03:10.860 condenser unit we would have a 5 ton
00:03:12.680 00:03:12.690 compressor and a two and a half ton
00:03:15.260 00:03:15.270 compressor okay 75% of the time you're
00:03:19.040 00:03:19.050 going to run on this little small engine
00:03:20.840 00:03:20.850 the little two and a half ton compressor
00:03:22.729 00:03:22.739 unit only when we hit you know rising
00:03:25.340 00:03:25.350 temperatures outside where we need that
00:03:26.780 00:03:26.790 full capacity running then it switches
00:03:30.110 00:03:30.120 from the two and a half ton to the to
00:03:32.120 00:03:32.130 the 5 ton compressor unit the other big
00:03:34.340 00:03:34.350 deal about the excel twenty eyes is that
00:03:37.400 00:03:37.410 they're what we call communicating
00:03:39.740 00:03:39.750 systems so we don't need as many wires
00:03:42.740 00:03:42.750 running to them to stage between first
00:03:45.590 00:03:45.600 stage and second stage that really helps
00:03:48.560 00:03:48.570 out on homes that you can't fish new
00:03:50.539 00:03:50.549 thermostat wire to make to stage work
00:03:53.210 00:03:53.220 for your home because instead of using
00:03:55.160 00:03:55.170 seven to ten wires that you normally
00:03:58.460 00:03:58.470 would use on a two stage unit we only
00:04:00.710 00:04:00.720 need three so your current existing wire
00:04:04.190 00:04:04.200 going through your home and everything
00:04:05.620 00:04:05.630 we're perfectly fine to switch a system
00:04:08.360 00:04:08.370 like this out now the difference in the
00:04:10.699 00:04:10.709 communicating unit is that we also have
00:04:14.150 00:04:14.160 to match that with a proper
00:04:15.530 00:04:15.540 communicating insight section as well as
00:04:18.229 00:04:18.239 well as a proper communicating
00:04:20.870 00:04:20.880 thermostat there's many different
00:04:23.719 00:04:23.729 designs and things like that but we put
00:04:26.060 00:04:26.070 all those units together for you train
00:04:27.890 00:04:27.900 is constantly make
00:04:30.439 00:04:30.449 upgrades to their equipment and model
00:04:32.809 00:04:32.819 numbers and efficiencies and things like
00:04:34.580 00:04:34.590 that
00:04:34.999 00:04:35.009 and we hear it on time err we keep up
00:04:37.429 00:04:37.439 with all of that stuff I have people
00:04:38.869 00:04:38.879 working full-time with Excel sheets
00:04:41.420 00:04:41.430 thousands of pieces of equipment for the
00:04:43.640 00:04:43.650 proper AR I ratings seer ratings proper
00:04:46.549 00:04:46.559 matching equipment and the communicating
00:04:49.070 00:04:49.080 units they help control the humidity in
00:04:51.769 00:04:51.779 your home you can actually set the
00:04:52.999 00:04:53.009 thermostat to a humidity level in your
00:04:55.489 00:04:55.499 home that you would like to try to
00:04:56.570 00:04:56.580 achieve and it will operate that blower
00:04:58.879 00:04:58.889 motor to either stay on running longer
00:05:01.600 00:05:01.610 producing more humidity off the wet coil
00:05:04.969 00:05:04.979 let's say or if you need to dehumanize
00:05:07.879 00:05:07.889 ix the motor down right away sometimes
00:05:10.489 00:05:10.499 the unit stops cooling so we're not
00:05:11.989 00:05:11.999 blowing any more water into the home off
00:05:14.719 00:05:14.729 the wet coil from the indoor section
00:05:17.350 00:05:17.360 these units when you plug them all in
00:05:19.809 00:05:19.819 they're pretty smart they actually talk
00:05:22.070 00:05:22.080 to each other and they tell each other
00:05:24.170 00:05:24.180 what they are they give each other their
00:05:25.790 00:05:25.800 model numbers and everything so they
00:05:26.989 00:05:26.999 actually know what they're supposed to
00:05:29.389 00:05:29.399 do so the Excel 20 I is is pretty
00:05:33.889 00:05:33.899 superior equipment out there
00:05:40.420 00:05:40.430 here in Phoenix if you're looking to get
00:05:43.180 00:05:43.190 a train XL series type condensing
00:05:46.390 00:05:46.400 section or complete system there's
00:05:50.080 00:05:50.090 basically two different types of designs
00:05:51.730 00:05:51.740 out here and the way to tell which one
00:05:54.220 00:05:54.230 you're going to need is you know if you
00:05:56.050 00:05:56.060 have an all-electric home and no natural
00:05:58.360 00:05:58.370 gas on a property you're going to want a
00:06:00.550 00:06:00.560 heat pump condensing section okay and
00:06:02.890 00:06:02.900 you're also going to want to match that
00:06:04.810 00:06:04.820 with a train Hyperion air handler unit
00:06:07.630 00:06:07.640 is typically at a mate model because
00:06:10.150 00:06:10.160 that's a communicating air handler that
00:06:11.950 00:06:11.960 matches up with the twenty I so for a
00:06:14.830 00:06:14.840 heat pump application you're going to
00:06:16.210 00:06:16.220 want a heat pump condenser and you're
00:06:18.220 00:06:18.230 going to want a Trane air handler
00:06:20.110 00:06:20.120 hyperion system to match that up with
00:06:22.270 00:06:22.280 and there's there's different matchups
00:06:24.430 00:06:24.440 and dependent upon the matchups is going
00:06:26.530 00:06:26.540 to depend it will give you the different
00:06:28.480 00:06:28.490 efficiencies that you'd be looking for
00:06:31.000 00:06:31.010 we'd be happy to go over all that stuff
00:06:32.740 00:06:32.750 with you at the time of the consultation
00:06:34.960 00:06:34.970 with you if you have natural gas on your
00:06:38.800 00:06:38.810 property then what you're going to want
00:06:40.960 00:06:40.970 is a straight cool XL series condensing
00:06:44.770 00:06:44.780 section matched with a Trane
00:06:47.550 00:06:47.560 communicating furnace so that they can
00:06:50.260 00:06:50.270 talk to each other and then with the
00:06:52.360 00:06:52.370 Trane indoor coil you'll need three
00:06:54.640 00:06:54.650 components for this to happen again
00:06:57.190 00:06:57.200 there's probably between ten and fifteen
00:07:00.220 00:07:00.230 different matchups depending upon what
00:07:03.520 00:07:03.530 you're looking for in your home blower
00:07:04.780 00:07:04.790 design and things like that again we're
00:07:07.090 00:07:07.100 trained for all this stuff we come into
00:07:08.860 00:07:08.870 your load calculations go over system
00:07:10.690 00:07:10.700 duct designs and things like that to
00:07:12.850 00:07:12.860 make everything achievable for you but
00:07:14.590 00:07:14.600 you'll need three sections straight cool
00:07:16.660 00:07:16.670 condenser furnace and a coil to make
00:07:19.990 00:07:20.000 that happen if you have natural gas on
00:07:22.450 00:07:22.460 your property
00:07:27.290 00:07:27.300 if you're in Phoenix the warranty
00:07:30.020 00:07:30.030 and XL series condensers and systems
00:07:33.230 00:07:33.240 generally ten years all parts
00:07:36.050 00:07:36.060 manufacturer warranty with the exception
00:07:38.330 00:07:38.340 that in the Excel series you can get up
00:07:40.520 00:07:40.530 to 12 year compressor manufacturer
00:07:42.500 00:07:42.510 warranty it kind of separates it a
00:07:44.600 00:07:44.610 little bit from the XR version
00:07:46.070 00:07:46.080 condensers we cover the labor portion of
00:07:49.610 00:07:49.620 the installations for a period of two
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00:07:56.860 00:07:56.870 if you want any more information on this
00:07:59.530 00:07:59.540 and speak to a specialist about this
00:08:01.810 00:08:01.820 give us a call here at on time ear if
00:08:03.370 00:08:03.380 you're in the Phoenix area and you'd
00:08:04.689 00:08:04.699 like to learn more about the XL series
00:08:06.790 00:08:06.800 give us a call at six two three three
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