Formulas of the Boiler Industry - Boiling Point

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always talking a lot about some
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00:00:25.019 00:00:25.029 remember working in the rental division
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00:00:41.970 00:00:41.980 some basic formulas first somebody calls
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00:00:47.280 00:00:47.290 how do you do pounds per hour how do we
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00:01:09.600 00:01:09.610 sometimes when people come in or call in
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00:01:51.419 00:01:51.429 that input or output well I don't know
00:01:53.489 00:01:53.499 well we got to figure that out but most
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00:02:03.300 00:02:03.310 they say Jaime I need six million Btu
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00:02:10.770 00:02:10.780 it's a six million Btu input boiler and
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00:02:57.410 00:02:57.420 getting a lot of questions they call in
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00:03:03.380 00:03:03.390 let's say we have a steam load and we
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00:03:17.630 00:03:17.640 formula for us well if they tell us
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00:04:20.570 00:04:20.580 writer typically what we'll do is we'll
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00:04:42.580 00:04:42.590 you know people call in and say hey my
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00:04:48.130 00:04:48.140 question that you asked it's a size RDA
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00:04:54.040 00:04:54.050 first thing we want to know then we need
00:04:55.780 00:04:55.790 to know what your operating pressures so
00:04:58.180 00:04:58.190 we'll know what what's the size of pump
00:04:59.680 00:04:59.690 forward now I got to know okay how many
00:05:02.020 00:05:02.030 boards are you feeding one two three the
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00:05:07.360 00:05:07.370 feed water valves is that on all four
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00:05:13.000 00:05:13.010 if they have on/off and you have
00:05:15.220 00:05:15.230 multiple boilers can I have to provide a
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00:05:19.660 00:05:19.670 some more sides to make sure those highs
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00:05:23.140 00:05:23.150 may have one pump and you might have to
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00:05:28.600 00:05:28.610 three point up running on the four are
00:05:30.520 00:05:30.530 you gonna pull but you're you're you're
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00:05:49.240 00:05:49.250 your daily work this also translates
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00:05:54.970 00:05:54.980 just for the rental boiler when they're
00:05:56.230 00:05:56.240 calling in and even cover folks that are
00:05:57.820 00:05:57.830 out there I'm in the boiler room we'll
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00:06:10.210 00:06:10.220 riddle guys but also maybe even on your
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00:06:15.040 00:06:15.050 stopping by we'll see you next time on
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