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Gas vs. Liquid Quenching - A Direct Comparison
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00:00:15.859 most of my talks if you've heard me talk 00:00:18.56000:00:18.570 before I've always talked about these 00:00:20.80900:00:20.819 huge large vacuum furnaces that's in our 00:00:24.34900:00:24.359 facility in western PA today my talk is 00:00:28.18900:00:28.199 about a relatively small vacuum furnace 00:00:30.58900:00:30.599 small for us an HL 50 size furnace 36 x 00:00:35.03000:00:35.040 36 x 48 deep but with some very unique 00:00:39.56000:00:39.570 and extreme cooling rates the objective 00:00:43.31000:00:43.320 of this paper is to put a little science 00:00:47.03000:00:47.040 behind this technology a high pressure 00:00:49.07000:00:49.080 gas quenching and to study harden 00:00:51.74000:00:51.750 ability and to study harden ability 00:00:56.05000:00:56.060 everybody goes turns to the dominant SS 00:00:59.78000:00:59.790 quench test my goal here is to look at 00:01:05.95900:01:05.969 typically oil and water quenched alloys 00:01:08.66000:01:08.670 and to high pressure gas quench these in 00:01:12.64900:01:12.659 a domination of course the ultimate goal 00:01:17.14900:01:17.159 is all of our customers want is he 00:01:20.48000:01:20.490 treating near net shape parts so vacuum 00:01:25.63900:01:25.649 gas quenching historically has always 00:01:28.94000:01:28.950 been the preferred process when heating 00:01:31.60900:01:31.619 tool steels hot and cold working tool 00:01:34.45900:01:34.469 steels and stainless steels high 00:01:39.64900:01:39.659 pressure gas quenching however has 00:01:42.49900:01:42.509 increasingly being used for alloy steels 00:01:45.73900:01:45.749 and case hardening steals today so why 00:01:51.76900:01:51.779 is gas quenching preferred you might go 00:01:56.38900:01:56.399 through all the reasons that you see 00:01:58.53900:01:58.549 everywhere in the literature but the 00:02:01.21900:02:01.229 main goal main reason you want a 00:02:03.05000:02:03.060 high-pressure gas quench is to reduce 00:02:05.26900:02:05.279 distortion and we do that basically 00:02:08.38900:02:08.399 because we're cooling simply by 00:02:10.91000:02:10.920 conduction whereas liquid quenching you 00:02:13.37000:02:13.380 have the vapor phase 00:02:14.45000:02:14.460 the vapor transport phase and then the 00:02:17.15000:02:17.160 conductive phase and the cooling curve 00:02:19.61000:02:19.620 is very erratic where with gas quenching 00:02:23.27000:02:23.280 it's all one phase conduction I can 00:02:26.87000:02:26.880 honestly say in the first two thirds of 00:02:28.79000:02:28.800 my life I cracked a lot of parts in this 00:02:32.90000:02:32.910 last portion of my life with working 00:02:35.15000:02:35.160 with vacuum furnaces and seeing some of 00:02:37.49000:02:37.500 the quench rates we can attain I have 00:02:39.80000:02:39.810 never cracked the part so therefore you 00:02:43.22000:02:43.230 reduce your distortion of course the 00:02:46.10000:02:46.110 risk of cracking the other advantages 00:02:51.23000:02:51.240 are it's an environmentally friendly 00:02:54.26000:02:54.270 process this test is basically using 00:02:58.79000:02:58.800 nitrogen very you know it's in the air 00:03:02.48000:03:02.490 we breathe eighty percent of the hair 00:03:05.03000:03:05.040 were breathing in this room right now so 00:03:06.80000:03:06.810 it's very environmentally friendly we 00:03:09.86000:03:09.870 have loved in the past the use of helium 00:03:12.02000:03:12.030 but if you read one of my most recent 00:03:14.30000:03:14.310 papers about the shortage of helium in 00:03:16.79000:03:16.800 the world or if you google helium you'll 00:03:19.52000:03:19.530 know that a helium is not going to be a 00:03:22.16000:03:22.170 player in the future I believe it's 00:03:26.00000:03:26.010 becoming increasingly expensive 00:03:28.45000:03:28.460 increasingly rare and it's it's really a 00:03:32.99000:03:33.000 problem to attain we are able to attain 00:03:35.78000:03:35.790 it through contracts but we are 00:03:39.41000:03:39.420 curtailed on our usage so we're looking 00:03:42.23000:03:42.240 at looking at higher gas velocities and 00:03:45.20000:03:45.210 higher pressures using the very 00:03:48.20000:03:48.210 inexpensive gasps of nitrogen part 00:03:53.12000:03:53.130 surfaces are free from oxides and quench 00:03:55.49000:03:55.500 media which eliminates many downstream 00:03:58.61000:03:58.620 processes and you know you might say 00:04:01.79000:04:01.800 well people might not want to pay the 00:04:04.94000:04:04.950 extra for high-pressure gas quenching 00:04:07.31000:04:07.320 versus oil quenching well when you look 00:04:09.80000:04:09.810 at some of the downstream processes when 00:04:12.44000:04:12.450 you get break clean parts out if the 00:04:15.26000:04:15.270 part needs to be plated downstream 00:04:18.08000:04:18.090 there's a lot of operations that can be 00:04:20.63000:04:20.640 cut out and less machining to quench 00:04:25.19000:04:25.200 rates are adjustable by varying gas 00:04:27.29000:04:27.300 pressure 00:04:27.99000:04:28.000 and or gas velocity and most importantly 00:04:33.12000:04:33.130 we can direct thermocouple these parts 00:04:35.31000:04:35.320 during the quenching for repeated and 00:04:37.65000:04:37.660 consistent results in production one of 00:04:41.13000:04:41.140 the companies that first acknowledges 00:04:43.32000:04:43.330 acknowledged high pressure gas quenching 00:04:45.72000:04:45.730 has been Boeing aircraft boeing has a 00:04:48.84000:04:48.850 specification written where you have to 00:04:53.19000:04:53.200 maintain a certain cooling rate at a 00:04:55.53000:04:55.540 certain bar minimal bar pressure and 00:04:57.90000:04:57.910 they give you tolerances that you must 00:05:01.20000:05:01.210 cool the part too and that's the first 00:05:04.20000:05:04.210 time we actually put some science to 00:05:06.00000:05:06.010 quenching with actual cooling rates not 00:05:09.42000:05:09.430 just simply saying water or oil as we 00:05:12.60000:05:12.610 all know there's different speeds of 00:05:14.13000:05:14.140 water there's different speeds of water 00:05:16.17000:05:16.180 of oil so we actually have a direct 00:05:19.92000:05:19.930 correlation to temperature and pressures 00:05:23.63000:05:23.640 so boeing has taken the lead in that I 00:05:26.64000:05:26.650 believe in BAC 5617 spec points on alloy 00:05:31.11000:05:31.120 oil Harding alloys alloys such as 4340 00:05:36.03000:05:36.040 and and other alloys so that's some of 00:05:42.63000:05:42.640 the advantage my objective in this 00:05:45.06000:05:45.070 experiment in these experiments is to 00:05:46.95000:05:46.960 critically evaluate the harden ability 00:05:48.60000:05:48.610 of certain alloys using the standardized 00:05:52.14000:05:52.150 jon-nee water and quench test what we 00:05:55.05000:05:55.060 all know in this room the standard test 00:05:57.20000:05:57.210 versus a non-traditional geometry air 00:06:00.54000:06:00.550 and quench test my first phase of the 00:06:04.44000:06:04.450 test the tests were performed in control 00:06:07.23000:06:07.240 laboratory setting in our plant in 00:06:10.62000:06:10.630 western PA we set up a bench for 00:06:14.52000:06:14.530 different types of job the two different 00:06:17.49000:06:17.500 types of johnny test phase two the tests 00:06:22.23000:06:22.240 were performed in a specifically 00:06:24.27000:06:24.280 designed vacuum chamber and our final 00:06:27.42000:06:27.430 stage phase three we simulated large 00:06:31.74000:06:31.750 production cooling tests in our newly 00:06:33.90000:06:33.910 design solar super quench vacuum furnace 00:06:39.05000:06:39.060 so looking at our first day 00:06:41.92000:06:41.930 we chose I chose decided to choose three 00:06:45.10000:06:45.110 alloys that we see every day to a witch 00:06:49.71900:06:49.729 that we're doing every day at 10 bar 00:06:52.06000:06:52.070 pressure the 41 40 per ASTM a 108 and 43 00:06:57.52000:06:57.530 40 per ASTM a 322 but one alloy I 00:07:01.45000:07:01.460 haven't been very successful with is 00:07:03.10000:07:03.110 4130 which is you all know it's a water 00:07:05.83000:07:05.840 hardening alloy steel all chomedey bars 00:07:10.52900:07:10.539 were pre normalized at 1,700 degrees and 00:07:14.49900:07:14.509 the Austin tising temperatures of those 00:07:17.20000:07:17.210 respective alloys were as follows in the 00:07:23.96900:07:23.979 laboratory setting in hermitage in 00:07:26.86000:07:26.870 western PA we transfer to Johnny bars 00:07:30.04000:07:30.050 quickly from the air furnace to a 00:07:34.77900:07:34.789 separate fixture for for it for the air 00:07:38.62000:07:38.630 and of course the water quench I had 00:07:40.60000:07:40.610 that being I had that done at an 00:07:42.73000:07:42.740 independent laboratory laboratory 00:07:44.49900:07:44.509 testing and hatfield PA they did all the 00:07:47.83000:07:47.840 johnny test on the exact same heats that 00:07:50.83000:07:50.840 i did my air quenching test so the 00:07:53.58900:07:53.599 chemistry's matched exactly for each 00:07:55.99000:07:56.000 different alloy Johnny fixtures were 00:07:59.29000:07:59.300 identical including the half-inch 00:08:00.93900:08:00.949 distance from the end of the bar of the 00:08:04.54000:08:04.550 Johnny bar and of course the half-inch 00:08:06.64000:08:06.650 ID orifice for the cooling media both 00:08:10.42000:08:10.430 water and gas media remain at a constant 00:08:12.62900:08:12.639 70 degrees fahrenheit per ASTM a 255 00:08:18.02900:08:18.039 this is just a picture of the two stands 00:08:21.96000:08:21.970 left picture showing the water johnny 00:08:24.67000:08:24.680 test performed at LTI and the right 00:08:29.56000:08:29.570 picture picture there is the air g omni 00:08:31.77900:08:31.789 fixture that we built in Hermitage 00:08:34.44900:08:34.459 Pennsylvania you can see the gas line 00:08:38.62000:08:38.630 coming up hooked to our nitrogen line at 00:08:42.73000:08:42.740 the bottom so i needed a rationale on 00:08:47.07900:08:47.089 what type of gas velocities would we be 00:08:50.05000:08:50.060 looking at you know over the years we 00:08:53.31900:08:53.329 had a vacuum we have an old vacuum for 00:08:55.51000:08:55.520 it could barely blow a candle out so and 00:08:58.21000:08:58.220 then we have these new super quenching 00:09:00.34000:09:00.350 furnaces so I basically took it down to 00:09:02.86000:09:02.870 three vacuum furnaces over the last 00:09:06.85000:09:06.860 basically over the last three decades 00:09:08.74000:09:08.750 and a roll identical size furnaces the 00:09:13.03000:09:13.040 work zone sizes were were 36 x 36 x 48 a 00:09:17.38000:09:17.390 typical HL 50 size vacuum furnace with a 00:09:21.01000:09:21.020 3,500 pound load capacity for athlete 00:09:24.49000:09:24.500 hot zone construction and a maximum 00:09:26.89000:09:26.900 operating temperature 2650 f this is an 00:09:35.47000:09:35.480 anemometer we bought to check the 00:09:39.13000:09:39.140 velocities of these three furnaces we 00:09:41.86000:09:41.870 varied anemometer around the furnace 00:09:44.62000:09:44.630 getting averages of of gas speeds we did 00:09:49.72000:09:49.730 it we did our test first with the door 00:09:51.58000:09:51.590 open then we close the door and Bob San 00:09:55.90000:09:55.910 Doran who's in attendance here figured a 00:09:59.02000:09:59.030 way through the through the lines for 00:10:01.21000:10:01.220 the through the ports of getting this 00:10:03.58000:10:03.590 this anemometer set up with the door 00:10:05.95000:10:05.960 closed and up the pressure this this 00:10:08.50000:10:08.510 furnace by the way was that 10 barb is a 00:10:10.93000:10:10.940 10 bar furnace so we basically look at 00:10:13.99000:10:14.000 measure the velocities of a furnace 00:10:16.57000:10:16.580 built circa nineteen ninety this was 00:10:19.60000:10:19.610 this furnace was located back in saturn 00:10:22.33000:10:22.340 in pennsylvania and we measured that 00:10:24.67000:10:24.680 speed at about 50 miles per hour and it 00:10:27.79000:10:27.800 had a hundred horsepower blower motor on 00:10:30.16000:10:30.170 it the next furnace we looked at was our 00:10:33.91000:10:33.920 10 bar furnace in hermitage PA and that 00:10:37.48000:10:37.490 was built around two year 2000 and that 00:10:41.32000:10:41.330 furnace has a 200 who has a hundred we 00:10:45.31000:10:45.320 measured a hundred miles per hour with a 00:10:47.05000:10:47.060 200 horsepower blower motor and then 00:10:50.65000:10:50.660 finally here this picture is our new 00:10:52.60000:10:52.610 brand new solar super quench furnace it 00:10:56.14000:10:56.150 was built in 2012 we just installed the 00:11:00.67000:11:00.680 furnace so you're seeing new data that's 00:11:03.04000:11:03.050 that's within the month months old and 00:11:06.75000:11:06.760 we're getting some tremendous 00:11:09.25000:11:09.260 tremendous gas velocities out of this 00:11:12.04000:11:12.050 furnace 200 mile an hour with a 300 00:11:16.53000:11:16.540 horsepower blower motor now the real key 00:11:24.10000:11:24.110 to this furnace is it's a revolutionary 00:11:27.91000:11:27.920 design in the recirc recirculation of 00:11:31.06000:11:31.070 the gas it has less pressure drops 00:11:33.91000:11:33.920 throughout the cooling system with 00:11:36.85000:11:36.860 increased pressure drops directed right 00:11:40.87000:11:40.880 on the nozzles which equates to increase 00:11:44.02000:11:44.030 gas velocity so all the work of that 00:11:46.66000:11:46.670 motor is being directed towards those 00:11:49.18000:11:49.190 nozzles there will be a later talk I 00:11:52.57000:11:52.580 believe tomorrow by Nick for disco 00:11:55.06000:11:55.070 describing this furnace and more detail 00:12:05.25000:12:05.260 so just some grass to show some of our 00:12:09.39000:12:09.400 results you know the rationale for my 00:12:11.34000:12:11.350 for the gas velocities which we we 00:12:14.94000:12:14.950 tested and here you can see the typical 00:12:18.00000:12:18.010 water domine and quench test you can see 00:12:21.18000:12:21.190 this in any ASM book you ever want to 00:12:23.76000:12:23.770 look at but I just wanted to make sure 00:12:25.71000:12:25.720 we're duplicating the the same data with 00:12:28.77000:12:28.780 the same chemistry and material so I 00:12:31.02000:12:31.030 develop my own curve for the water and 00:12:33.81000:12:33.820 quench test and you can see my 200 mile 00:12:36.78000:12:36.790 an hour test here with the solid blue 00:12:39.90000:12:39.910 line the purple line was 100 mile an 00:12:43.38000:12:43.390 hour and the 50 mile-an-hour gas and 00:12:46.65000:12:46.660 that's for 4130 at atmospheric pressure 00:12:49.80000:12:49.810 in my testing for forty one forty you 00:12:56.82000:12:56.830 can see a very nice correlation with a 00:12:59.10000:12:59.110 200 mile an hour gas with the water 00:13:02.15000:13:02.160 jon-nee and quench whereas the 2 100 00:13:05.97000:13:05.980 mile an hour and the 50 mile-an-hour gas 00:13:08.76000:13:08.770 did not fare so well 4340 much more 00:13:14.61000:13:14.620 hardened to bilal oi steel not 00:13:16.89000:13:16.900 surprisingly it's very grouped together 00:13:18.75000:13:18.760 as curve doesn't show you much but 00:13:20.93000:13:20.940 expanding that that scale here you know 00:13:24.09000:13:24.100 going from fifty rockwell to 60 rock 00:13:26.52000:13:26.530 well now you know you can see al at the 00:13:29.82000:13:29.830 end we were matching the hardness of 00:13:33.30000:13:33.310 water of the water johnny test and we 00:13:36.78000:13:36.790 had some little crazy results here i 00:13:39.00000:13:39.010 gotta believe from the conduction of the 00:13:41.31000:13:41.320 gas they kind of shut up here versus the 00:13:44.70000:13:44.710 water quench but you can see the 100 00:13:47.28000:13:47.290 mile an hour in the 50 mile an hour you 00:13:50.01000:13:50.020 get much letter less as quench hardness 00:13:52.89000:13:52.900 on the end of that book Johnny bar phase 00:14:00.51000:14:00.520 two of our experiment actually this 00:14:04.77000:14:04.780 furnace was built by solar manufacturing 00:14:07.23000:14:07.240 and solar atmospheres together this is a 00:14:10.53000:14:10.540 little testing furnace is probably about 00:14:13.62000:14:13.630 8 inch diameter 12 inches high and we 00:14:18.33000:14:18.340 build 00:14:18.70000:14:18.710 specifically to hold a Johnny stand a 00:14:22.27000:14:22.280 cha me fixture with in there we made 00:14:25.15000:14:25.160 some adaptions to this furnace um one 00:14:27.70000:14:27.710 thing we have added that I did not do a 00:14:30.01000:14:30.020 my my my experiment on the plant floor 00:14:33.27000:14:33.280 we drilled this Johnny bar we now have a 00:14:36.07000:14:36.080 thermocouple drilled down to within 00:14:38.41000:14:38.420 one-half inch from the end and one inch 00:14:41.50000:14:41.510 from the end so now we're able to see 00:14:43.54000:14:43.550 cool actual cooling rates of that Johnny 00:14:45.82000:14:45.830 bar as we're adding gas velocity and 00:14:48.49000:14:48.500 adding pressure this is a picture of the 00:14:52.69000:14:52.700 actual furnace we actually had a college 00:14:55.33000:14:55.340 in turn the summer we with our help and 00:14:58.90000:14:58.910 he designed it and basically build it 00:15:01.36000:15:01.370 and he went back to college and now 00:15:03.43000:15:03.440 we're finishing it off but we found we 00:15:06.76000:15:06.770 have done a few experiments so far in it 00:15:10.60000:15:10.610 and what is hoping to have better 00:15:12.28000:15:12.290 information for you today but we found 00:15:15.61000:15:15.620 out we had a restriction here you see 00:15:20.65000:15:20.660 the nozzle coming up through the metal 00:15:24.46000:15:24.470 hot zone of the furnace and we had that 00:15:29.04000:15:29.050 we had that spring-loaded device on the 00:15:32.14000:15:32.150 top and we really felt like we had too 00:15:34.72000:15:34.730 much gas restriction there we have 00:15:36.55000:15:36.560 changed that design to a valve off 00:15:38.50000:15:38.510 design and we're adjusting pressure with 00:15:41.32000:15:41.330 that valve coming through let the gas 00:15:43.36000:15:43.370 come out and through that chamber so 00:15:46.27000:15:46.280 just as of Saturday we've got our first 00:15:48.97000:15:48.980 actual good result we took it up to four 00:15:51.88000:15:51.890 bar pressure and we're matching our my 00:15:55.48000:15:55.490 atmospheric results on that furnace so 00:15:58.84000:15:58.850 but that was just for 4340 my real key 00:16:01.90000:16:01.910 interest is how this will perform at 10 00:16:05.41000:16:05.420 bar we only built this to 10 bar 00:16:07.15000:16:07.160 pressure using 4130 that's my that's 00:16:11.05000:16:11.060 what i want to see increasing the 00:16:13.09000:16:13.100 pressure still with the 200 mile-an-hour 00:16:15.88000:16:15.890 gas velocity that's a top view of the 00:16:21.31000:16:21.320 hot zone just underneath you can see 00:16:25.21000:16:25.220 it's on a basic workbench the 00:16:28.60000:16:28.610 transformer little vacuum pump here 00:16:31.85000:16:31.860 so it's it's it's a permanent testing 00:16:35.00000:16:35.010 that we're going to be looking at a lot 00:16:37.28000:16:37.290 of different alloys in this in the 00:16:38.72000:16:38.730 future so the phase three of my test was 00:16:45.56000:16:45.570 actually taking this to a stepping it up 00:16:48.65000:16:48.660 to a production stage so we took 20 00:16:51.65000:16:51.660 steel bars three inch diameter x 24 00:16:55.31000:16:55.320 inches long for baskets one grid a total 00:16:59.99000:17:00.000 weight of 1,300 pounds and the real key 00:17:03.07900:17:03.089 we have 70 sees deeply embedded 4 inches 00:17:06.71000:17:06.720 down into that into those bars 00:17:09.11000:17:09.120 throughout the load the thermocouples 00:17:11.99000:17:12.000 were identical for all tests and here's 00:17:19.52000:17:19.530 some of the results that we received 00:17:22.22000:17:22.230 from the solar super quench furnace you 00:17:30.08000:17:30.090 can see a two bar pressure the cooling 00:17:34.94000:17:34.950 rates all the way up to 20 bar I took 00:17:38.60000:17:38.610 that same load and ran it in our furnace 00:17:41.81000:17:41.820 number two if you remember that 10 bar 00:17:44.00000:17:44.010 furnace and these were the cooling rates 00:17:46.43000:17:46.440 2 4 6 and 10 bar with the dotted lines 00:17:50.27000:17:50.280 of course I'm not including the furnace 00:17:52.88000:17:52.890 temperature the furnace TCS came down on 00:17:55.61000:17:55.620 a straight line that will just confuse 00:17:57.50000:17:57.510 the issue but when you overlay them you 00:18:00.40900:18:00.419 can see some very interesting results 00:18:02.98000:18:02.990 again the dotted lines are the is the 00:18:06.20000:18:06.210 older technology circuit year 2000 and 00:18:10.63000:18:10.640 the solid lines is the new solar super 00:18:13.70000:18:13.710 quench furnace most impressive here that 00:18:17.03000:18:17.040 I think you can see right here if you 00:18:19.37000:18:19.380 look at this aqualine here that is a 00:18:22.73000:18:22.740 four bar quench on a new furnace and 00:18:25.90900:18:25.919 equates to our 10 bar quench on the 00:18:29.09000:18:29.100 older firms big improvement in cooling 00:18:32.62000:18:32.630 now I want to increase that load size I 00:18:35.78000:18:35.790 want to do more tests on this but as I 00:18:38.48000:18:38.490 said this furnace is just underway in 00:18:40.70000:18:40.710 testing and hopefully next week it'll be 00:18:43.37000:18:43.380 in production 00:18:45.68000:18:45.690 so my conclusions on an atmospheric 00:18:49.38000:18:49.390 pressure gas velocities up to 200 miles 00:18:52.62000:18:52.630 per hour must be attained to duplicate 00:18:55.86000:18:55.870 traditional Johnny and quench tests 00:18:58.08000:18:58.090 quench results for 4140 and 4340 steals 00:19:03.35000:19:03.360 at atmospheric pressures gas velocities 00:19:07.25900:19:07.269 of up to 200 miles per hour are not 00:19:10.50000:19:10.510 sufficient to duplicate John Niang 00:19:13.28900:19:13.299 quench test for 4130 material but 00:19:16.91900:19:16.929 increased pressure results are pending 00:19:20.14900:19:20.159 Johnny and quench test harden ability 00:19:22.44000:19:22.450 data for gas pressures up to 10 bar for 00:19:26.22000:19:26.230 the same alloy is pending the solar 00:19:31.44000:19:31.450 super quench vacuum furnace has the 00:19:33.62900:19:33.639 capability to fully hardened 4140 and 00:19:37.01900:19:37.029 4340 material solar super quench vacuum 00:19:42.26900:19:42.279 furnace will demonstrate a forty-eight 00:19:44.15900:19:44.169 percent improved cooling rate time when 00:19:47.22000:19:47.230 compared to older designs some of my 00:19:51.75000:19:51.760 future work I you know over the years 00:19:54.96000:19:54.970 I've had many people have a lot of 00:19:57.24000:19:57.250 distortion problems many people ask if I 00:20:01.23000:20:01.240 could ever do 1090 or 1075 spring steel 00:20:04.52900:20:04.539 they wanted to keep Springs keep the 00:20:06.99000:20:07.000 shape of the spring so I would love to 00:20:09.26900:20:09.279 play around a little bit with 1095 1075 00:20:12.24000:20:12.250 material carbon steel 50 to 100 we all 00:20:16.52900:20:16.539 know in the world there's a crying need 00:20:18.29900:20:18.309 to keep distortion to a minimum on 00:20:21.60000:20:21.610 bearings I would love to look at 50 to 00:20:25.50000:20:25.510 100 in fact I have material ordered and 00:20:27.81000:20:27.820 will be going through the same protocol 00:20:29.87900:20:29.889 here with 50 to 100 and as you know many 00:20:33.89900:20:33.909 people get in the low pressure gas 00:20:35.89900:20:35.909 carburizing and 8620 to get good core 00:20:41.12900:20:41.139 hardnesses on larger size loads are 00:20:43.40900:20:43.419 sometimes difficult to attain so I want 00:20:46.52900:20:46.539 to employ the same technique with 8620 00:20:49.68000:20:49.690 of course we know 9310 the higher alloys 00:20:53.43000:20:53.440 of carburizing grades are no problem 00:20:56.15900:20:56.169 with high pressure gas quenching but the 00:20:57.84000:20:57.850 work or 00:20:58.44000:20:58.450 is 8620 finally I'd like to try a little 00:21:03.66000:21:03.670 bit something with my business in 00:21:06.00000:21:06.010 western PA we're about sixty percent 00:21:07.59000:21:07.600 aerospace and I know the advantage we 00:21:10.65000:21:10.660 can get by high pressure gas quenching 00:21:13.73000:21:13.740 titanium 6al 4v we have done some 00:21:18.09000:21:18.100 medical parts with using 10 bar pressure 00:21:22.32000:21:22.330 using helium of course you can't use 00:21:24.99000:21:25.000 nitrogen with titanium because it would 00:21:28.74000:21:28.750 form a very detrimental layer but we we 00:21:33.36000:21:33.370 have been able to meet the speeds of 00:21:35.91000:21:35.920 water using helium with thin cross 00:21:38.46000:21:38.470 sections I want to look at this now it's 00:21:41.07000:21:41.080 going to be a lot different it won't be 00:21:42.48000:21:42.490 an N quench harden ability study will be 00:21:45.27000:21:45.280 looking more at structure or strength as 00:21:47.88000:21:47.890 we go back on the bar but I want to try 00:21:50.73000:21:50.740 to equate something to some titanium 00:21:53.09000:21:53.100 especially again the workhorse in the 00:21:55.98000:21:55.990 titanium world 6al 4v there are many 00:22:00.27000:22:00.280 other alloys we can look at if you have 00:22:02.19000:22:02.200 any ideas you have any ideas please see 00:22:05.37000:22:05.380 me here's my email address I gave 00:22:07.86000:22:07.870 everybody a copy of the paper today you 00:22:12.75000:22:12.760 can contact me by email I'm also citing 00:22:16.44000:22:16.450 a paper that after i did this like i was 00:22:20.49000:22:20.500 aware that this was done back in 2009 by 00:22:23.85000:22:23.860 professor and croatia dr. landok who 00:22:28.20000:22:28.210 performs similar type of work he built a 00:22:30.75000:22:30.760 small chamber small vacuum chamber with 00:22:33.24000:22:33.250 some inductor coils but he performed his 00:22:35.88000:22:35.890 work only with o2 tool steel now we've 00:22:38.64000:22:38.650 been doing o'toole 402 for quite a while 00:22:40.92000:22:40.930 now so this is taking it another step 00:22:44.22000:22:44.230 with pressures and gas velocity but i 00:22:48.24000:22:48.250 just wanted to cite this paper and some 00:22:51.48000:22:51.490 of this work has been done previously 00:22:52.98000:22:52.990 and that's the end of my talk thank you 00:22:56.07000:22:56.080 very much
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