Glass engineering - designing and making photochromic glass

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today on Applied Science I'm going to
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00:00:14.570 00:00:14.580 I'm going to summarize everything I've
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00:00:23.000 00:00:23.010 away okay so let's check out some demos
00:00:25.420 00:00:25.430 let's take a look at this unusual piece
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00:00:31.669 00:00:31.679 I got from eBay let's see what happens
00:00:37.930 00:00:37.940 as you can see the glass is actually
00:00:41.780 00:00:41.790 changing color when I shine light from
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00:00:47.389 00:00:47.399 fairly responsive it changes in a few
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00:00:51.250 00:00:51.260 photochromic so it's basically the same
00:00:53.299 00:00:53.309 kind of glass that is used in sunglasses
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00:00:58.369 00:00:58.379 the Sun and some regions ever are a
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00:01:11.710 00:01:11.720 this one's also photochromic we can also
00:01:14.330 00:01:14.340 give it a blast of light from this
00:01:16.039 00:01:16.049 really big ultraviolet flashlight that I
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00:01:20.899 00:01:20.909 about the same wavelength 405 nanometer
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00:01:45.649 00:01:45.659 get an idea of of how it works with a
00:01:48.620 00:01:48.630 modern photochromic lens dies in plastic
00:01:52.730 00:01:52.740 as opposed to glass and now all of these
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00:02:06.289 00:02:06.299 commercial lens this happens in
00:02:07.760 00:02:07.770 hopefully five to ten minutes in the
00:02:09.380 00:02:09.390 glasses that I've created it's quite a
00:02:11.960 00:02:11.970 bit longer
00:02:13.090 00:02:13.100 could time-lapse this but it's really
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00:02:21.040 00:02:21.050 nothing special about this laser pointer
00:02:22.360 00:02:22.370 I'll put links to everything as always
00:02:24.280 00:02:24.290 in the in the description you can go on
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00:02:30.310 00:02:30.320 so that's this is actually making this
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00:02:34.780 00:02:34.790 tell you most of the samples that you've
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00:02:57.070 00:02:57.080 this one this one is also photochromic
00:03:00.310 00:03:00.320 but as you can see the fade time is just
00:03:02.890 00:03:02.900 seconds and so if I go across like this
00:03:05.440 00:03:05.450 you can see it's there and then it fades
00:03:07.440 00:03:07.450 this is actually an opal glass and so it
00:03:10.780 00:03:10.790 it is a piece of glass it's just it's
00:03:13.390 00:03:13.400 not transparent and it has this really
00:03:16.480 00:03:16.490 weird property where you can draw on it
00:03:18.970 00:03:18.980 and then it fades away almost instantly
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00:03:23.650 00:03:23.660 weird kind of crystalline thing going on
00:03:25.450 00:03:25.460 but it also works about the same way
00:03:27.460 00:03:27.470 almost unfortunately this was a batch of
00:03:31.480 00:03:31.490 glass that I made just by throwing a
00:03:33.160 00:03:33.170 bunch of leftovers together in a pot so
00:03:34.990 00:03:35.000 the point the formula for this one's
00:03:36.550 00:03:36.560 unfortunately lost the time forever but
00:03:38.740 00:03:38.750 the point is that I want to get everyone
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00:03:43.570 00:03:43.580 as many people hacking on electronics
00:03:45.370 00:03:45.380 and mechanics if they were all hacking
00:03:46.690 00:03:46.700 on making glass we would have all kinds
00:03:48.520 00:03:48.530 of weird stuff by now so let's start
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00:03:54.520 00:03:54.530 first got started with this project I
00:03:56.140 00:03:56.150 thought what I would do is get a mold a
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00:04:02.290 00:04:02.300 cool it and then pull out my finished
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00:04:06.370 00:04:06.380 that way unfortunately and the reason is
00:04:09.040 00:04:09.050 that the glass batch when it's being
00:04:11.410 00:04:11.420 formed like going from a mixture of
00:04:14.170 00:04:14.180 powders into a finished piece of glass
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00:04:18.700 00:04:18.710 mold releases that you can put in here
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00:04:23.590 00:04:23.600 mold release anymore there's only one
00:04:25.960 00:04:25.970 material on earth
00:04:26.940 00:04:26.950 that won't stick to melting glass or
00:04:29.400 00:04:29.410 forming glass and that's platinum and so
00:04:31.590 00:04:31.600 they actually make tiny little platinum
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00:04:40.080 00:04:40.090 then the glass doesn't just fall out I
00:04:42.030 00:04:42.040 mean it still sticks in there and so if
00:04:43.800 00:04:43.810 you're hoping to make like a nice you
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00:04:49.020 00:04:49.030 gonna work forming it in a mold like
00:04:50.550 00:04:50.560 this so I'll just cover that the mold
00:04:52.620 00:04:52.630 releases quickly if you do make a custom
00:04:55.370 00:04:55.380 blend of glass and then you want to form
00:04:58.110 00:04:58.120 it into an interesting shape then you
00:04:59.670 00:04:59.680 can use these conventional mold releases
00:05:01.650 00:05:01.660 and most of these things came from like
00:05:03.660 00:05:03.670 an art supply house for glass artists to
00:05:09.810 00:05:09.820 popular kinds of mold release are this
00:05:11.730 00:05:11.740 primo primer and this is a powder in
00:05:13.830 00:05:13.840 here that you mix with water and it ends
00:05:15.870 00:05:15.880 up making this fun purple solution and
00:05:18.060 00:05:18.070 the purple is actually a useful thing
00:05:20.550 00:05:20.560 when you're brushing it on your mold you
00:05:22.380 00:05:22.390 can tell the spots that you haven't
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00:05:25.410 00:05:25.420 that's the point of that and then I also
00:05:27.450 00:05:27.460 tried this really expensive boron
00:05:30.480 00:05:30.490 nitride mold release this is actually
00:05:32.790 00:05:32.800 really great stuff it's also fifty
00:05:34.470 00:05:34.480 dollars it can and it works really well
00:05:37.260 00:05:37.270 but again if you're making glass the
00:05:39.270 00:05:39.280 temperatures are really high and the
00:05:41.070 00:05:41.080 glass is very reactive and it will
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00:05:47.700 00:05:47.710 happened here so this was a mold that I
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00:05:52.560 00:05:52.570 I put my ingredients in here and what
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00:05:57.060 00:05:57.070 the boron nitride that's been
00:06:00.080 00:06:00.090 incorporated into the glass and then
00:06:02.640 00:06:02.650 after the glass was done eating away all
00:06:04.560 00:06:04.570 of my mold release it proceeded to stick
00:06:06.630 00:06:06.640 itself permanently to the mold which is
00:06:08.550 00:06:08.560 alumina so what happened here is I
00:06:10.950 00:06:10.960 basically just glazed the mold I started
00:06:12.870 00:06:12.880 with this unglazed piece of alumina and
00:06:16.200 00:06:16.210 now the glass is permanently fused in
00:06:18.300 00:06:18.310 there so the way to do it is to get a
00:06:23.220 00:06:23.230 melting dish and I'll put links again to
00:06:25.800 00:06:25.810 all this stuff these are these you can
00:06:27.930 00:06:27.940 actually buy these on Amazon they're a
00:06:29.430 00:06:29.440 little expensive on Amazon if you get
00:06:31.590 00:06:31.600 these imported you know from a Chinese
00:06:34.530 00:06:34.540 seller on eBay it's just like a buck or
00:06:36.900 00:06:36.910 two I mean it's no big deal
00:06:38.070 00:06:38.080 and you can take these up to very high
00:06:40.140 00:06:40.150 temperature
00:06:40.650 00:06:40.660 and what you want to do is put your
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00:06:46.200 00:06:46.210 we'll get into the details later also I
00:06:49.320 00:06:49.330 should point out that you might have
00:06:51.180 00:06:51.190 heard of float glass so commercially if
00:06:54.300 00:06:54.310 you want to make like a big sheet of
00:06:55.620 00:06:55.630 glass and make sure that it's really
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00:06:58.620 00:06:58.630 put it through rollers because the
00:06:59.790 00:06:59.800 rollers you know might Mar the surface
00:07:01.770 00:07:01.780 or you have to adjust them to make them
00:07:04.650 00:07:04.660 really parallel so the way the glass is
00:07:06.900 00:07:06.910 made commercially is a giant vat of
00:07:09.060 00:07:09.070 molten tin and they pour the molten
00:07:11.700 00:07:11.710 glass on top of the Bolton tin and
00:07:13.950 00:07:13.960 because gravity is makes things flat at
00:07:16.830 00:07:16.840 the small scale here you're guaranteed
00:07:18.540 00:07:18.550 that everything will be flat and uniform
00:07:19.890 00:07:19.900 because you're dealing with liquids on
00:07:22.650 00:07:22.660 the surface of the lake right it's going
00:07:24.060 00:07:24.070 to be flat there's a couple of
00:07:26.520 00:07:26.530 interesting crowded of course inside
00:07:28.890 00:07:28.900 here I've got some tin I bought tin
00:07:33.420 00:07:33.430 pellets on eBay and put them in my
00:07:36.450 00:07:36.460 crucible here and melted it and then put
00:07:38.700 00:07:38.710 some glass on top and you can see it it
00:07:40.710 00:07:40.720 kind of almost worked but there's a
00:07:42.060 00:07:42.070 couple of interesting problems one the
00:07:44.160 00:07:44.170 tin oxidizes if you just heat it up in
00:07:46.260 00:07:46.270 air so commercially what they do is have
00:07:49.620 00:07:49.630 a giant furnace full of hydrogen gas
00:07:52.050 00:07:52.060 where this liquid tin is hanging out and
00:07:54.810 00:07:54.820 the hydrogen gas is very reducing it
00:07:57.420 00:07:57.430 basically prevents oxygen from from
00:07:59.400 00:07:59.410 being in there because if any oxygen got
00:08:01.140 00:08:01.150 in it would react with the hydrogen so
00:08:04.530 00:08:04.540 needless to say this is getting to be
00:08:06.060 00:08:06.070 kind of difficult to do in the home shop
00:08:07.770 00:08:07.780 having a
00:08:08.810 00:08:08.820 molten tin with hydrogen gas and
00:08:11.250 00:08:11.260 everything and then another interesting
00:08:13.170 00:08:13.180 problem if you're making photochromic
00:08:14.940 00:08:14.950 glass for example you can't do it in the
00:08:17.760 00:08:17.770 float glass process because this glass
00:08:20.280 00:08:20.290 is very sensitive to the environment
00:08:21.630 00:08:21.640 it's in and it really doesn't like
00:08:24.210 00:08:24.220 hanging out in a hot hydrogen
00:08:26.730 00:08:26.740 environment because it actually prevents
00:08:28.260 00:08:28.270 the glass from being photochromic so
00:08:30.659 00:08:30.669 this can only be formed in crucibles or
00:08:34.080 00:08:34.090 in oxidizing environments you can't use
00:08:36.180 00:08:36.190 the float glass process for this so
00:08:38.700 00:08:38.710 originally when I was having this
00:08:39.719 00:08:39.729 problem with the glass sticking to the
00:08:41.370 00:08:41.380 the molds and I was wondering what to do
00:08:43.170 00:08:43.180 I thought well maybe I'll try this
00:08:45.150 00:08:45.160 liquid metal idea since how could it
00:08:46.920 00:08:46.930 stick to liquid metal and I would
00:08:49.590 00:08:49.600 recommend not bothering with this at all
00:08:51.180 00:08:51.190 as it turns out if you want to make a
00:08:52.470 00:08:52.480 flat piece of glass in the home
00:08:54.150 00:08:54.160 shaf there's easier ways to do it just
00:08:56.670 00:08:56.680 forget the tin it's it's actually not
00:08:58.319 00:08:58.329 that helpful if you're in a bind and you
00:09:03.180 00:09:03.190 can't find or afford these aluminum
00:09:05.309 00:09:05.319 melting dishes it's also possible to use
00:09:07.980 00:09:07.990 porcelain so if you go to the store and
00:09:10.350 00:09:10.360 buy you know dishware just plain old
00:09:13.860 00:09:13.870 porcelain destroyed this can be okay the
00:09:16.259 00:09:16.269 temperature that this can sustain is
00:09:17.879 00:09:17.889 just barely high enough to do some glass
00:09:20.249 00:09:20.259 experiments and we'll get about you know
00:09:22.740 00:09:22.750 we can talk about making the glass melt
00:09:24.720 00:09:24.730 at low temperature so that you can use
00:09:26.460 00:09:26.470 porcelain melting stuff the one thing
00:09:29.160 00:09:29.170 you have to be careful about is that if
00:09:30.749 00:09:30.759 you buy dishware from the store it's
00:09:33.240 00:09:33.250 already glazed right so there's already
00:09:34.740 00:09:34.750 glass inside here on top of the
00:09:37.319 00:09:37.329 porcelain you can feel the difference
00:09:38.819 00:09:38.829 like if you touch this part of it it's
00:09:40.530 00:09:40.540 typically not glazed so that's the raw
00:09:42.360 00:09:42.370 porcelain and then inside it's already
00:09:45.329 00:09:45.339 covered with glass so if you're making a
00:09:47.730 00:09:47.740 glass batch and you pour all your
00:09:48.990 00:09:49.000 ingredients in here it's going to be
00:09:50.550 00:09:50.560 mixed along with whatever glaze the
00:09:52.290 00:09:52.300 manufacturer already used whereas if you
00:09:55.230 00:09:55.240 if you go with one of these unglazed
00:09:57.590 00:09:57.600 melting dishes this is really raw
00:09:59.910 00:09:59.920 there's there's nothing that this is
00:10:01.110 00:10:01.120 going to contribute to your glass batch
00:10:02.579 00:10:02.589 shirts
00:10:03.059 00:10:03.069 it's the minimal amount okay so you've
00:10:07.439 00:10:07.449 got your aluminum melting dish or your
00:10:09.629 00:10:09.639 porcelain demitasse and you're ready to
00:10:11.670 00:10:11.680 put it in the kiln to melt all the stuff
00:10:13.290 00:10:13.300 down so let's talk about kiln selection
00:10:15.689 00:10:15.699 first gas versus electric in this
00:10:19.139 00:10:19.149 tabletop small scale size there are no
00:10:21.210 00:10:21.220 commercial gas kilns so you'd have to
00:10:22.949 00:10:22.959 make one but that's you know not the end
00:10:24.509 00:10:24.519 of the world there's a couple other
00:10:26.160 00:10:26.170 considerations though - you want your
00:10:28.559 00:10:28.569 kiln to have really good temperature
00:10:30.720 00:10:30.730 control like plus/minus 10 20 degrees C
00:10:33.350 00:10:33.360 because a lot of making unusual parts of
00:10:36.569 00:10:36.579 unusual kinds of glass involve heat
00:10:38.579 00:10:38.589 treatment and annealing and you really
00:10:41.160 00:10:41.170 do need good temperature control to do
00:10:42.840 00:10:42.850 this so you know really fine temperature
00:10:45.870 00:10:45.880 control with a gas kiln is it more
00:10:47.579 00:10:47.589 difficult you probably need to like
00:10:49.079 00:10:49.089 throttle the gas down not just turn it
00:10:51.030 00:10:51.040 on and off to get good temperature
00:10:52.530 00:10:52.540 control but the last consideration and
00:10:55.139 00:10:55.149 sort of the most difficult one to get
00:10:56.579 00:10:56.589 around is the atmosphere inside the kiln
00:10:59.429 00:10:59.439 remember I was saying that having
00:11:01.280 00:11:01.290 hydrogen atmosphere is no good for
00:11:03.480 00:11:03.490 photochromic glass so they actually
00:11:05.009 00:11:05.019 chemically hurt the glass and prevent
00:11:07.079 00:11:07.089 it from being photochromic if you have a
00:11:09.600 00:11:09.610 gas-fired kiln the exhaust from your
00:11:12.600 00:11:12.610 flame is actually reducing there's
00:11:14.639 00:11:14.649 probably quite a lot of carbon monoxide
00:11:15.869 00:11:15.879 in there and at these temperatures that
00:11:18.449 00:11:18.459 carbon monoxide will find oxygen
00:11:20.670 00:11:20.680 molecules and react with it to make
00:11:22.710 00:11:22.720 carbon dioxide and it's so reducing at
00:11:26.100 00:11:26.110 these high temperatures that it will
00:11:27.480 00:11:27.490 actually pull oxygen out of the glass
00:11:29.400 00:11:29.410 and prevent it from being photochromic
00:11:32.249 00:11:32.259 so I don't know I think commercially you
00:11:36.059 00:11:36.069 could probably get around this by having
00:11:37.439 00:11:37.449 like a really big crucible inside your
00:11:39.840 00:11:39.850 gas-fired kiln and it's only the surface
00:11:42.090 00:11:42.100 layer that's affected by the reducing
00:11:44.699 00:11:44.709 atmosphere and a gas-fired kiln the
00:11:47.549 00:11:47.559 trouble is if you're using small little
00:11:49.619 00:11:49.629 melting dishes like this the amount of
00:11:52.139 00:11:52.149 surface area appears high enough where
00:11:53.879 00:11:53.889 if you've only got you know 100 grams of
00:11:55.559 00:11:55.569 glass in here it's basically all going
00:11:57.840 00:11:57.850 to be affected by the atmosphere in the
00:12:00.420 00:12:00.430 kiln so using an electric kiln is very
00:12:02.850 00:12:02.860 nice because temperature control is much
00:12:04.799 00:12:04.809 easier and if you open the lid to the
00:12:07.290 00:12:07.300 kiln you're guaranteed to have
00:12:08.689 00:12:08.699 atmospheric air inside there later on
00:12:11.429 00:12:11.439 you'll see there's so many variables
00:12:12.780 00:12:12.790 involved with making a piece of glass
00:12:14.519 00:12:14.529 that eliminating one more variable of
00:12:17.009 00:12:17.019 having this unknown atmosphere from a
00:12:19.230 00:12:19.240 flame in your kiln is another thing
00:12:21.210 00:12:21.220 especially if you're turning the flame
00:12:23.100 00:12:23.110 on and off to control the temperature
00:12:25.290 00:12:25.300 now you're controlling also the oxygen
00:12:27.299 00:12:27.309 level because the flame is on and off
00:12:28.710 00:12:28.720 and so then there's more or less oxygen
00:12:30.179 00:12:30.189 I would recommend definitely going with
00:12:32.519 00:12:32.529 an electric this particular kiln here is
00:12:36.569 00:12:36.579 called a muffle kiln and it's built kind
00:12:39.960 00:12:39.970 of funny it almost seems like a DIY
00:12:42.389 00:12:42.399 project itself it's basically just this
00:12:44.970 00:12:44.980 helmet shaped thing and they can see the
00:12:46.829 00:12:46.839 heating elements inside there and you
00:12:48.480 00:12:48.490 can put it down on any surface you want
00:12:51.660 00:12:51.670 and sort of turn that into a kiln this
00:12:54.090 00:12:54.100 is the Paragon quickfire I bought this a
00:12:57.720 00:12:57.730 long time ago it's not sponsored of
00:12:59.069 00:12:59.079 course this is about three hundred
00:13:00.809 00:13:00.819 dollars new I think and it's actually a
00:13:03.179 00:13:03.189 really good solution the heating
00:13:05.309 00:13:05.319 elements are rated to go up to about
00:13:08.299 00:13:08.309 1050 degrees C but I've pushed it to
00:13:11.249 00:13:11.259 1150 no problem one consideration is
00:13:15.210 00:13:15.220 that it just comes with a switch
00:13:17.320 00:13:17.330 so the the original temperature control
00:13:19.780 00:13:19.790 is a switch that you turn on and off
00:13:22.120 00:13:22.130 yourself and a analog temperature gauge
00:13:25.449 00:13:25.459 here to tell you how hot it is and
00:13:27.370 00:13:27.380 that's not going to work for doing a
00:13:28.990 00:13:29.000 glassy treatment or annealing so what I
00:13:31.930 00:13:31.940 did is I added this little pig
00:13:33.220 00:13:33.230 controller here and you can set the
00:13:35.380 00:13:35.390 temperature and it's actually amazingly
00:13:37.210 00:13:37.220 good at reaching a temperature and
00:13:39.130 00:13:39.140 holding it within just a few degrees
00:13:40.449 00:13:40.459 even the reason that this kiln is
00:13:45.040 00:13:45.050 limited to maybe 1150 C or even 1250 if
00:13:48.460 00:13:48.470 you really really push it is because the
00:13:50.769 00:13:50.779 heating elements themselves are made of
00:13:53.250 00:13:53.260 nickel iron right nichrome and
00:13:56.819 00:13:56.829 eventually it melts so it's a pretty
00:13:59.740 00:13:59.750 hard limit on how hot you can get it
00:14:01.360 00:14:01.370 because your heating elements eventually
00:14:02.560 00:14:02.570 get so hot they melt so that that really
00:14:05.050 00:14:05.060 does put a cap on things and
00:14:06.639 00:14:06.649 unfortunately most silica glass patches
00:14:10.180 00:14:10.190 have a rated like melting or forming
00:14:12.610 00:14:12.620 temperature of like 14 or 1500 degrees C
00:14:15.610 00:14:15.620 which is much too hot you'd never get
00:14:17.170 00:14:17.180 your night chrome furnace that hot so
00:14:19.509 00:14:19.519 what do you do well there are actually
00:14:21.430 00:14:21.440 special electric furnaces that have
00:14:23.639 00:14:23.649 heating elements that are not made of
00:14:25.690 00:14:25.700 nichrome so the next level up from
00:14:27.670 00:14:27.680 nichrome is silicon carbide is actually
00:14:31.090 00:14:31.100 conductive and it melts at a higher
00:14:32.500 00:14:32.510 temperature so they make heating
00:14:34.300 00:14:34.310 elements out of that and then the top of
00:14:36.310 00:14:36.320 the line is molybdenum disulphide very
00:14:39.460 00:14:39.470 unusual material that's a blend of
00:14:41.380 00:14:41.390 molybdenum and silica and they make
00:14:43.870 00:14:43.880 these very very expensive small heating
00:14:46.840 00:14:46.850 elements out of this material and you
00:14:48.579 00:14:48.589 can get a kill on an electric kiln that
00:14:50.079 00:14:50.089 goes up to fifteen or sixteen hundred
00:14:52.329 00:14:52.339 degrees C the downside is that these
00:14:55.870 00:14:55.880 kilns are really expensive even you know
00:14:58.210 00:14:58.220 cheap import models on eBay sell for
00:15:00.519 00:15:00.529 like two or three thousand dollars so
00:15:02.199 00:15:02.209 you know it's in the context of this
00:15:04.510 00:15:04.520 video it's really just kind of out of
00:15:06.010 00:15:06.020 reach I wouldn't worry about it the nice
00:15:07.900 00:15:07.910 thing is that you can make glass
00:15:09.460 00:15:09.470 formulations that just don't require
00:15:11.079 00:15:11.089 that kind of temperature so there's a
00:15:12.790 00:15:12.800 lots and lots of experimentation you can
00:15:14.560 00:15:14.570 do without father and with any of that
00:15:15.910 00:15:15.920 and that's what we're going to talk
00:15:16.900 00:15:16.910 about in this video this kiln originally
00:15:20.740 00:15:20.750 came with its own shelf like its own
00:15:22.689 00:15:22.699 bottom and you can see what happened
00:15:26.019 00:15:26.029 here now remember I said that glass is
00:15:27.790 00:15:27.800 very reactive so if you spill a little
00:15:30.280 00:15:30.290 bit of
00:15:30.910 00:15:30.920 glass batch on the Shelf here and then
00:15:33.610 00:15:33.620 heated up to high temperatures it's
00:15:35.769 00:15:35.779 actually dissolving away the material of
00:15:39.129 00:15:39.139 the kiln itself so you have to protect
00:15:40.900 00:15:40.910 the kiln and everything in there from
00:15:42.519 00:15:42.529 your from your glass even spilling it is
00:15:45.190 00:15:45.200 actually a very damaging like corrosive
00:15:47.740 00:15:47.750 kind of event so luckily this this
00:15:50.800 00:15:50.810 material is not super expensive and the
00:15:53.019 00:15:53.029 nice thing about these muffle furnaces
00:15:55.150 00:15:55.160 where you sort of pick the whole furnace
00:15:56.590 00:15:56.600 up is that you can just have like a new
00:15:57.910 00:15:57.920 bottom every month or whenever you need
00:15:59.980 00:15:59.990 it so you can buy these fire bricks that
00:16:03.280 00:16:03.290 are very lightweight and can take very
00:16:06.519 00:16:06.529 high temperatures and are also
00:16:07.870 00:16:07.880 insulating so I'll put links to all this
00:16:09.699 00:16:09.709 if you search for fire brick be careful
00:16:12.129 00:16:12.139 because some fire bricks are rated for
00:16:14.530 00:16:14.540 high temperature but they aren't really
00:16:15.970 00:16:15.980 insulating like it can withstand fire of
00:16:18.280 00:16:18.290 it it's gonna get hot on the other side
00:16:20.139 00:16:20.149 whereas it brick like this it could be
00:16:22.569 00:16:22.579 you know 1,400 degrees C on this side
00:16:25.870 00:16:25.880 and you could put your hand on this side
00:16:27.100 00:16:27.110 and it would be no problem so to repair
00:16:29.470 00:16:29.480 this kiln but I do this I just put two
00:16:31.180 00:16:31.190 of these standard sized insulating fire
00:16:33.910 00:16:33.920 bricks here and that's now my kiln floor
00:16:37.290 00:16:37.300 another thing you can do to try to
00:16:39.370 00:16:39.380 promote the life of your kiln floor is
00:16:41.199 00:16:41.209 to cover it with this special kiln paper
00:16:43.360 00:16:43.370 so they sell this stuff at the art
00:16:45.400 00:16:45.410 supply stores and watch watch how it
00:16:47.050 00:16:47.060 works
00:17:01.790 00:17:01.800 pretty cool it's paper that doesn't
00:17:04.199 00:17:04.209 really burn and so if you put glass on
00:17:06.990 00:17:07.000 top of here this axe is sort of like a
00:17:08.880 00:17:08.890 buffer layer and this will eventually
00:17:12.360 00:17:12.370 become completely white ash and the
00:17:15.180 00:17:15.190 glass won't be able to stick to the kiln
00:17:17.010 00:17:17.020 floor because there's this layer of ash
00:17:18.630 00:17:18.640 in between so pretty handy stuff just
00:17:21.720 00:17:21.730 keep in mind though that if you pour
00:17:22.890 00:17:22.900 your glass batch like if there's powders
00:17:24.540 00:17:24.550 on here that are gonna form a glass they
00:17:26.819 00:17:26.829 will dissolve the paper and the ash and
00:17:28.890 00:17:28.900 everything else like we mentioned and
00:17:30.240 00:17:30.250 eventually get all the way through so
00:17:31.560 00:17:31.570 this is sort of a low-level way to
00:17:33.780 00:17:33.790 protect yourself from spills you can see
00:17:36.600 00:17:36.610 in my in my kiln here there's all kinds
00:17:39.090 00:17:39.100 of remnants of ash here since I've been
00:17:42.450 00:17:42.460 putting kiln papers on here to try to
00:17:44.010 00:17:44.020 protect the top not 100% though because
00:17:46.380 00:17:46.390 you can still see little errors here and
00:17:47.790 00:17:47.800 there
00:17:48.150 00:17:48.160 oh also you can use sort of a trivet so
00:17:54.000 00:17:54.010 what will happen is the glass is very
00:17:56.580 00:17:56.590 viscous and sticky and so if you've got
00:17:59.100 00:17:59.110 your melting dish like this eventually
00:18:02.100 00:18:02.110 you'll get some running down the side
00:18:03.840 00:18:03.850 here it'll dribble down and if it's just
00:18:05.400 00:18:05.410 sitting on top even with the kiln papers
00:18:07.380 00:18:07.390 it'll eventually make a huge mess and
00:18:09.600 00:18:09.610 destroy your kiln floor so you can put
00:18:11.850 00:18:11.860 like a porcelain or alumina tray here so
00:18:14.370 00:18:14.380 that when you put this down the drip is
00:18:16.320 00:18:16.330 at least caught by that you keep the
00:18:17.910 00:18:17.920 kiln floor living a little bit longer so
00:18:22.170 00:18:22.180 we talked about making your glass batch
00:18:23.820 00:18:23.830 in an alumina melting dish like this and
00:18:26.670 00:18:26.680 then pouring it out on to a surface
00:18:28.290 00:18:28.300 there's actually a really great material
00:18:30.030 00:18:30.040 for doing this and that's graphite so if
00:18:32.760 00:18:32.770 you go on eBay or Amazon you'll find
00:18:34.320 00:18:34.330 there is these graphite Casting molds
00:18:37.080 00:18:37.090 mostly for metal actually they weren't
00:18:38.700 00:18:38.710 thinking that you'd use this for glass
00:18:40.080 00:18:40.090 but you can and what I found to work
00:18:42.570 00:18:42.580 really well is to get a mold of about
00:18:45.030 00:18:45.040 this size and put it down like that you
00:18:48.270 00:18:48.280 can use sandpaper to get the surface
00:18:50.340 00:18:50.350 really flat and then use like a paper
00:18:52.020 00:18:52.030 towel to polish it and then when you're
00:18:54.240 00:18:54.250 getting ready to pour your glass what
00:18:55.890 00:18:55.900 you do is you the surface up with a
00:18:58.620 00:18:58.630 torch till you know it's maybe a few
00:19:00.810 00:19:00.820 hundred degrees C or maybe even five
00:19:02.400 00:19:02.410 hundred and then obviously there's gonna
00:19:05.670 00:19:05.680 be hot open the kiln up and take your
00:19:08.370 00:19:08.380 glass and pour it out onto the surface
00:19:10.380 00:19:10.390 and the nice thing is that the graphite
00:19:13.330 00:19:13.340 will not stick to your glass hardly at
00:19:15.700 00:19:15.710 all I mean it's a really slippery
00:19:17.110 00:19:17.120 surface what I found out doesn't work
00:19:19.690 00:19:19.700 don't do this don't take the whole thing
00:19:22.180 00:19:22.190 and put it in your kiln and then close
00:19:24.910 00:19:24.920 the lid and heat the whole thing up to
00:19:26.350 00:19:26.360 kill them temperatures the the graphite
00:19:28.030 00:19:28.040 will survive
00:19:29.920 00:19:29.930 but what will happen is the glass will
00:19:32.470 00:19:32.480 rip off the top layer and it again
00:19:34.180 00:19:34.190 incorporate the graphite into the glass
00:19:36.040 00:19:36.050 because it's so reactive so that doesn't
00:19:37.870 00:19:37.880 work okay so we've talked about the
00:19:42.220 00:19:42.230 melting dish the kiln the mold release
00:19:44.080 00:19:44.090 and everything what do we actually put
00:19:45.820 00:19:45.830 in the dish to make this glass this is
00:19:48.490 00:19:48.500 where things get really weird so if you
00:19:50.830 00:19:50.840 search for patents about you know how to
00:19:53.470 00:19:53.480 make weird kinds of glasses let's say
00:19:55.300 00:19:55.310 photochromic glasses you'll find lots
00:19:57.580 00:19:57.590 and lots of very detailed glass analyses
00:20:00.820 00:20:00.830 right so you'll typically see let's say
00:20:03.610 00:20:03.620 you find a glass analysis it's 50%
00:20:06.130 00:20:06.140 silicon dioxide
00:20:07.720 00:20:07.730 you know 40% boron trioxide 10% sodium
00:20:11.710 00:20:11.720 oxide great I'll just get you know 50
00:20:14.710 00:20:14.720 grams of silica 40 grams of or 8 and 10
00:20:17.560 00:20:17.570 grams of sodium oxide and mix it all
00:20:21.250 00:20:21.260 together and make a glass right not even
00:20:23.260 00:20:23.270 close
00:20:24.640 00:20:24.650 the ingredients that are that go into
00:20:26.860 00:20:26.870 the glass batch do not have a whole lot
00:20:28.780 00:20:28.790 to do with what comes out the other end
00:20:30.610 00:20:30.620 and this may seem very strange but
00:20:33.700 00:20:33.710 there's a really great analogy and
00:20:35.170 00:20:35.180 that's in cooking so if you analyze the
00:20:37.720 00:20:37.730 piece of cooked bread you would say it's
00:20:39.940 00:20:39.950 you know 20 percent gluten 20 percent
00:20:42.610 00:20:42.620 water whatever it is but if you're
00:20:45.040 00:20:45.050 explaining how to make a blow for Fred
00:20:46.930 00:20:46.940 to someone you wouldn't use those terms
00:20:49.120 00:20:49.130 you would say start with flour and water
00:20:51.010 00:20:51.020 and it's actually the process of making
00:20:53.200 00:20:53.210 the bread that develops it into gluten
00:20:55.840 00:20:55.850 and all the other finished products and
00:20:57.610 00:20:57.620 that's that's exactly what's happening
00:20:59.380 00:20:59.390 with the glass one trick with making
00:21:03.040 00:21:03.050 these glass batches is that the
00:21:04.570 00:21:04.580 temperatures are so high that almost any
00:21:07.120 00:21:07.130 carbon is going to go away it's going to
00:21:09.700 00:21:09.710 react with oxygen and leave the glass
00:21:11.860 00:21:11.870 batch entirely so if we for example put
00:21:15.220 00:21:15.230 in lithium carbonate when we heat this
00:21:17.680 00:21:17.690 up to you know 1200 degrees C the co 3
00:21:21.040 00:21:21.050 is going to go away and the oxygen is
00:21:24.340 00:21:24.350 gonna there are some of the remaining
00:21:25.480 00:21:25.490 oxygen
00:21:25.970 00:21:25.980 is going to react with the lithium and
00:21:27.470 00:21:27.480 we'll be left with lithium oxide in the
00:21:30.320 00:21:30.330 glass so and then you might say well why
00:21:33.890 00:21:33.900 not just start with lithium oxide the
00:21:35.720 00:21:35.730 problem is that lithium oxide is really
00:21:38.030 00:21:38.040 reactive and so if you put that in the
00:21:39.770 00:21:39.780 glass batch it's very possible that as
00:21:41.930 00:21:41.940 the thing is heating up all that lithium
00:21:43.880 00:21:43.890 oxide is also going to go away before it
00:21:46.100 00:21:46.110 has a chance to be incorporated into the
00:21:48.380 00:21:48.390 glass batch so choosing ingredients to
00:21:50.900 00:21:50.910 make a glass sort of requires you to
00:21:53.510 00:21:53.520 find an ingredient that has a melting
00:21:55.370 00:21:55.380 point and a stability that is compatible
00:21:58.070 00:21:58.080 with all the other materials in glass
00:22:01.600 00:22:01.610 luckily a lot of this work has already
00:22:03.710 00:22:03.720 been done so if you sit down and you
00:22:05.450 00:22:05.460 know you want to put lithium in your
00:22:06.919 00:22:06.929 glass you pretty much use lithium
00:22:08.870 00:22:08.880 carbonate there might be a few other
00:22:10.220 00:22:10.230 chemicals that work too but pretty much
00:22:11.870 00:22:11.880 it's always lithium carbonate and also
00:22:14.750 00:22:14.760 for example if you want to add sodium to
00:22:16.580 00:22:16.590 your glass pretty much using sodium
00:22:19.280 00:22:19.290 carbonate is the way to go okay
00:22:21.789 00:22:21.799 unfortunately there's not like a master
00:22:24.980 00:22:24.990 table or anything that I have found that
00:22:26.840 00:22:26.850 lists all the possible things you can
00:22:29.000 00:22:29.010 put in I mean there's literally hundreds
00:22:30.350 00:22:30.360 it goes on and on but to make sort of
00:22:33.890 00:22:33.900 more normal kinds of glass it is pretty
00:22:35.960 00:22:35.970 well figured out and I'll put as many
00:22:37.430 00:22:37.440 links as I can in the description to
00:22:39.169 00:22:39.179 help you out when you're just starting
00:22:42.350 00:22:42.360 out and making a relatively simple kind
00:22:44.299 00:22:44.309 of glass just plain old clear glass I
00:22:46.250 00:22:46.260 would recommend is doing twenty grams of
00:22:48.590 00:22:48.600 silicon dioxide 20 grams of sodium
00:22:50.990 00:22:51.000 carbonate and 20 grams of boric acid and
00:22:54.320 00:22:54.330 this will make you a borosilicate glass
00:22:56.990 00:22:57.000 you've probably heard that term before
00:22:58.159 00:22:58.169 it's the same kind of glass that's used
00:23:00.049 00:23:00.059 in glassware and cooking dishes and all
00:23:02.659 00:23:02.669 this kind of thing one benefit of
00:23:04.669 00:23:04.679 borosilicate glass is that it is less
00:23:08.360 00:23:08.370 sensitive to temperature fluctuation
00:23:10.520 00:23:10.530 right like you don't want your glass to
00:23:11.960 00:23:11.970 crack if you're heating up a test tube
00:23:13.430 00:23:13.440 or something like that and similarly if
00:23:15.530 00:23:15.540 you're making glass on your own you
00:23:17.419 00:23:17.429 actually don't want it to be very
00:23:18.650 00:23:18.660 temperature sensitive because you're
00:23:19.789 00:23:19.799 gonna have to cool your piece of glass
00:23:21.080 00:23:21.090 down from kiln temperatures all the way
00:23:22.850 00:23:22.860 to room temperature and annealing is the
00:23:25.909 00:23:25.919 process where you pick a temperature and
00:23:27.799 00:23:27.809 hang there for a while to let the glass
00:23:29.450 00:23:29.460 relax and sort of all the stresses
00:23:31.820 00:23:31.830 dissipate and it typically takes hours
00:23:33.980 00:23:33.990 for this to happen but having
00:23:35.899 00:23:35.909 borosilicate glass you still have to
00:23:37.700 00:23:37.710 anneal it but it's less
00:23:39.529 00:23:39.539 sensitive than a non borosilicate glass
00:23:42.710 00:23:42.720 or something that's more sensitive to
00:23:44.180 00:23:44.190 temperature fluctuation mixing up all
00:23:48.229 00:23:48.239 the powders is pretty important and it's
00:23:49.909 00:23:49.919 something that I haven't spent a huge
00:23:51.109 00:23:51.119 amount of time on but I probably should
00:23:52.779 00:23:52.789 what I typically do is just have the
00:23:55.659 00:23:55.669 container on the scale put all the
00:23:57.859 00:23:57.869 powders in it and then sometimes I'll
00:23:59.629 00:23:59.639 add these to brass balls and put the
00:24:01.639 00:24:01.649 container lid on and shake it around and
00:24:03.560 00:24:03.570 the balls will help sort of stir up the
00:24:05.690 00:24:05.700 powder and actually kind of crush some
00:24:07.219 00:24:07.229 of the crystals a little bit to mix it
00:24:08.779 00:24:08.789 up
00:24:09.080 00:24:09.090 in reality this could be a lot better
00:24:10.879 00:24:10.889 any what you really want to do is put it
00:24:12.379 00:24:12.389 in a rock tumbler and run it for a day
00:24:15.320 00:24:15.330 or an hour or something like that and
00:24:17.149 00:24:17.159 that will make sure that the powders are
00:24:18.619 00:24:18.629 really really well mixed together and
00:24:20.979 00:24:20.989 this is important because like we were
00:24:24.409 00:24:24.419 talking about the glass batch doesn't
00:24:26.210 00:24:26.220 just sort of all melt together it's
00:24:27.680 00:24:27.690 actually a chemical reaction that's
00:24:29.149 00:24:29.159 happening in there so you really want
00:24:31.190 00:24:31.200 the powders to be in really really well
00:24:33.109 00:24:33.119 mixed intimate contact with each other
00:24:35.119 00:24:35.129 so that the chemical reactions can
00:24:36.589 00:24:36.599 proceed as smoothly as possible if
00:24:39.739 00:24:39.749 you've got a clump of something off in
00:24:41.330 00:24:41.340 one corner of the crucible it's possible
00:24:43.759 00:24:43.769 it will eventually melt and make a glass
00:24:45.769 00:24:45.779 for you but it may not have the
00:24:47.599 00:24:47.609 properties that you want because it
00:24:49.159 00:24:49.169 didn't properly react with all the other
00:24:50.960 00:24:50.970 ingredients and again think of a loaf of
00:24:53.119 00:24:53.129 bread right like if you have a little
00:24:54.320 00:24:54.330 chunk of unmixed flour or something in
00:24:57.080 00:24:57.090 one corner of the pan yeah you'll still
00:24:59.450 00:24:59.460 end up with a loaf of bread or something
00:25:00.710 00:25:00.720 but it's not gonna be as good and funny
00:25:04.969 00:25:04.979 enough the analogies with cooking
00:25:06.200 00:25:06.210 continue this is actually a good
00:25:08.570 00:25:08.580 ingredient to put in your glass just
00:25:10.190 00:25:10.200 plain old table salt
00:25:11.479 00:25:11.489 will add sodium and chloride and both of
00:25:14.719 00:25:14.729 those are actually important in making
00:25:16.159 00:25:16.169 photochromic glasses and so it's no joke
00:25:18.830 00:25:18.840 that you know if your soup isn't very
00:25:20.029 00:25:20.039 good what do you do you know you put in
00:25:21.499 00:25:21.509 a pinch of salt same can be true of your
00:25:23.509 00:25:23.519 batch of glass the main components of
00:25:27.109 00:25:27.119 the glass are not super sensitive to
00:25:29.589 00:25:29.599 variations in ratio so for example if
00:25:32.269 00:25:32.279 your glass is 1/2 silica and about half
00:25:34.940 00:25:34.950 bori you know getting it to be 4951
00:25:38.450 00:25:38.460 isn't going to make any difference but
00:25:40.070 00:25:40.080 when you're making them glasses that are
00:25:41.509 00:25:41.519 photochromic or have like a very
00:25:42.889 00:25:42.899 sensitive chemical aspect to them some
00:25:45.469 00:25:45.479 of the ingredients are very sensitive
00:25:48.080 00:25:48.090 and the quantities are just absolutely
00:25:49.820 00:25:49.830 tiny so for example in the photochromic
00:25:52.249 00:25:52.259 glass
00:25:52.710 00:25:52.720 this copper oxide needs to be added
00:25:55.340 00:25:55.350 about point oh eight percent I think and
00:25:59.130 00:25:59.140 so measuring out such a teeny amount
00:26:01.110 00:26:01.120 even with a balance that's capable of
00:26:02.789 00:26:02.799 measuring milligrams is very challenging
00:26:04.669 00:26:04.679 so what you do is you dilute the
00:26:07.649 00:26:07.659 sensitive ingredient in one of the base
00:26:09.870 00:26:09.880 ingredients so for example for this
00:26:11.520 00:26:11.530 borate glass I'm using boric acid as
00:26:14.460 00:26:14.470 like the main batch component and so
00:26:16.980 00:26:16.990 what I would do is take half a gram of
00:26:18.419 00:26:18.429 copper oxide and mix it with 20 grams of
00:26:21.090 00:26:21.100 borate and so I'll have this very dilute
00:26:24.149 00:26:24.159 sort of copper oxide powder and then you
00:26:27.840 00:26:27.850 can measure this out with also still
00:26:30.000 00:26:30.010 pretty good precision but not quite the
00:26:31.470 00:26:31.480 precision that you need to measure the
00:26:32.730 00:26:32.740 oxide by itself let's finish up by
00:26:36.330 00:26:36.340 talking about the actual chemical
00:26:38.159 00:26:38.169 ingredients that go into this
00:26:39.450 00:26:39.460 photochromic glass sort of as an example
00:26:41.820 00:26:41.830 and I'll try to describe and generalize
00:26:43.710 00:26:43.720 what these ingredients do so this
00:26:46.049 00:26:46.059 winning combination that I've got here
00:26:48.149 00:26:48.159 this photochromic glass has this recipe
00:26:51.779 00:26:51.789 it's 22 B as you can see I spent a long
00:26:54.539 00:26:54.549 time tweaking different components of
00:26:57.510 00:26:57.520 the recipe there are a lot of variables
00:26:59.700 00:26:59.710 involved here not only is the ratio of
00:27:02.279 00:27:02.289 ingredients important but also the speed
00:27:05.549 00:27:05.559 at which you bring them up to the
00:27:06.720 00:27:06.730 melting temperature in the kiln and then
00:27:09.060 00:27:09.070 how long you hold it at that temperature
00:27:10.620 00:27:10.630 and then when you pour it out of the
00:27:12.750 00:27:12.760 kiln you let it cool down to room
00:27:14.310 00:27:14.320 temperature and then bring it back up to
00:27:16.289 00:27:16.299 a forming temperature to actually create
00:27:19.200 00:27:19.210 this photochromic property and then of
00:27:21.330 00:27:21.340 course that has a time and temperature
00:27:22.620 00:27:22.630 associated with it as well and the
00:27:24.690 00:27:24.700 atmosphere and the kiln during the melt
00:27:26.310 00:27:26.320 process and then the atmosphere during
00:27:27.870 00:27:27.880 the heat treat process and it just goes
00:27:29.490 00:27:29.500 on and on so I'm not claiming that this
00:27:31.890 00:27:31.900 is tweaked it down to perfection in fact
00:27:33.960 00:27:33.970 far from it this will just give you an
00:27:35.580 00:27:35.590 idea of what's going on and sort of the
00:27:37.470 00:27:37.480 the challenges that you'll encounter if
00:27:38.940 00:27:38.950 you end up doing this I should also
00:27:41.640 00:27:41.650 point out that a lot of the patents
00:27:43.289 00:27:43.299 around photochromic glass talk about a
00:27:46.169 00:27:46.179 lot of these times and temperatures but
00:27:48.060 00:27:48.070 they'll say things like the heat
00:27:50.070 00:27:50.080 treatment may be conducted between 500
00:27:52.440 00:27:52.450 and 700 degrees C for between ten
00:27:55.289 00:27:55.299 minutes and two hours now what will
00:27:57.450 00:27:57.460 actually happen is that the heat
00:27:59.220 00:27:59.230 treatment only works between 600 and 600
00:28:02.399 00:28:02.409 twenty degrees and it must be between 30
00:28:04.500 00:28:04.510 minutes and 40 minutes
00:28:05.910 00:28:05.920 but of course they want the patent to be
00:28:07.440 00:28:07.450 as broad as possible and if there's some
00:28:09.030 00:28:09.040 weird way you can make it work outside
00:28:10.800 00:28:10.810 those parameters then fine but they're
00:28:13.170 00:28:13.180 definitely not describing the easiest
00:28:15.360 00:28:15.370 way to make it they're describing all
00:28:17.010 00:28:17.020 the possible ways to make it and so
00:28:19.110 00:28:19.120 that's kind of another problem with the
00:28:20.310 00:28:20.320 patent system is that it's you write
00:28:23.070 00:28:23.080 them to be overly broad but anyway okay
00:28:25.320 00:28:25.330 let's get down to business here with the
00:28:26.730 00:28:26.740 chemicals this winning combination is a
00:28:28.920 00:28:28.930 borate glass there's actually no silica
00:28:31.290 00:28:31.300 in it whatsoever so it's not
00:28:32.610 00:28:32.620 borosilicate it's just for Oh borate
00:28:35.280 00:28:35.290 glass so we've got 20 grams of boric
00:28:38.040 00:28:38.050 acid this will contribute b203 or borate
00:28:41.670 00:28:41.680 in the final glass and this is kind of
00:28:43.200 00:28:43.210 the backbone of the whole system then we
00:28:46.500 00:28:46.510 have 2.2 grams of aluminum hydroxide now
00:28:50.370 00:28:50.380 remember the hydrogen is going to go
00:28:51.960 00:28:51.970 away at these high temperatures and
00:28:53.910 00:28:53.920 we're going to be left with al 2 O 3 so
00:28:56.250 00:28:56.260 alumina which is dispersed among the
00:28:58.770 00:28:58.780 mixture and the function of alumina is
00:29:00.720 00:29:00.730 just to stabilize the glass structure we
00:29:05.760 00:29:05.770 don't want it to diva trophy which means
00:29:07.890 00:29:07.900 convert from a glass into a crystalline
00:29:09.780 00:29:09.790 structure and this helps with that this
00:29:12.270 00:29:12.280 ingredient also calls for calcium
00:29:13.890 00:29:13.900 carbonate which again the carbonate is
00:29:15.870 00:29:15.880 going to go away and this is going to
00:29:17.100 00:29:17.110 become calcium calcium oxide in the
00:29:19.650 00:29:19.660 final glass and this is also a
00:29:21.540 00:29:21.550 stabilizer that makes the glass less
00:29:24.720 00:29:24.730 dissolvable like less prone to being
00:29:27.360 00:29:27.370 broken down by the environment I know
00:29:29.520 00:29:29.530 that sounds silly for a glass that we
00:29:31.440 00:29:31.450 only care about you know I just want
00:29:33.090 00:29:33.100 this to work in the lab I don't care if
00:29:34.440 00:29:34.450 this survives for years and years but
00:29:36.810 00:29:36.820 again I was following a recipe and I got
00:29:39.690 00:29:39.700 this thing locked in and I couldn't
00:29:40.980 00:29:40.990 change this variable easily because I
00:29:42.840 00:29:42.850 was too busy changing other variables
00:29:44.880 00:29:44.890 basically then we have 0.4 grams or 0.3
00:29:50.100 00:29:50.110 grams in the winning mixture of silver
00:29:52.230 00:29:52.240 nitrate this is actually the same
00:29:54.450 00:29:54.460 chemical that works in old-fashioned
00:29:56.850 00:29:56.860 black-and-white photography and it's
00:29:58.260 00:29:58.270 actually the same mechanism inside the
00:29:59.940 00:29:59.950 photochromic glass so what happens is we
00:30:02.670 00:30:02.680 mix silver nitrate with sodium chloride
00:30:05.430 00:30:05.440 in this glass mixture and then as it's
00:30:08.550 00:30:08.560 reacting as the glass is being formed
00:30:10.470 00:30:10.480 these things trade places and we end up
00:30:12.540 00:30:12.550 with silver chloride and sodium nitrate
00:30:15.180 00:30:15.190 and the sodium nitrate gets burned down
00:30:17.070 00:30:17.080 into sodium oxide and
00:30:19.560 00:30:19.570 trait goes away and we're left with
00:30:21.660 00:30:21.670 silver chloride and I have a little bit
00:30:25.110 00:30:25.120 of silver chloride over here let's take
00:30:27.060 00:30:27.070 a look we zoom in so there's some silver
00:30:31.680 00:30:31.690 chloride and if I shine this ultraviolet
00:30:34.680 00:30:34.690 light on it again check out what happens
00:30:37.550 00:30:37.560 look at that it turned dark just like
00:30:40.920 00:30:40.930 the photochromic glass so basically
00:30:42.930 00:30:42.940 we're just dispersing the silver
00:30:44.520 00:30:44.530 chloride throughout the glass and that
00:30:46.080 00:30:46.090 same process that you just saw is
00:30:47.640 00:30:47.650 happening in the glass which causes it
00:30:49.530 00:30:49.540 to darken the reason that it becomes
00:30:51.930 00:30:51.940 dark is because the silver chloride when
00:30:54.600 00:30:54.610 it gets hit with this moderately high
00:30:56.850 00:30:56.860 power light it's not quite ultraviolet
00:30:58.680 00:30:58.690 that it's pretty close actually converts
00:31:00.960 00:31:00.970 into metallic silver and so that dark
00:31:03.030 00:31:03.040 color is silver metal as opposed to
00:31:05.460 00:31:05.470 silver chloride so if we had a glass
00:31:08.100 00:31:08.110 that changed from clear to dark only
00:31:09.810 00:31:09.820 once in its whole lifetime it never went
00:31:11.460 00:31:11.470 back to clear it wouldn't be that useful
00:31:12.990 00:31:13.000 as a pair of sunglasses so we add
00:31:15.180 00:31:15.190 another ingredient copper oxide in a
00:31:17.730 00:31:17.740 tiny quantity I've written down 0.1
00:31:19.920 00:31:19.930 grams but this is actually a 40 X
00:31:21.960 00:31:21.970 dilution so we're really only talking
00:31:23.970 00:31:23.980 about you know 2 and 1/2 milligrams of
00:31:26.250 00:31:26.260 copper oxide for this whole batch of
00:31:27.960 00:31:27.970 glass it's considered a dopant because
00:31:31.980 00:31:31.990 it's in such small quantity and what
00:31:33.630 00:31:33.640 happens here is that it accepts
00:31:35.520 00:31:35.530 electrons from the silver chloride so
00:31:38.280 00:31:38.290 when you hit the silver chloride with
00:31:39.510 00:31:39.520 light it converts to metallic silver and
00:31:41.820 00:31:41.830 I think gives up an electron don't quote
00:31:43.860 00:31:43.870 me on that
00:31:44.310 00:31:44.320 and then the copper oxide accepts that
00:31:46.320 00:31:46.330 electron and then pushes it back into
00:31:48.390 00:31:48.400 the silver metal causing it to go back
00:31:50.430 00:31:50.440 to silver chloride so this is sort of
00:31:52.560 00:31:52.570 like a reserve of electrons and copper
00:31:55.860 00:31:55.870 oxide has the correct sort of affinity
00:31:58.470 00:31:58.480 for this to happen properly I believe
00:32:02.760 00:32:02.770 the copper oxide is also chosen because
00:32:04.800 00:32:04.810 it works over a large temperature range
00:32:06.600 00:32:06.610 so you'll notice that with normal
00:32:09.630 00:32:09.640 photochromic even commercially made
00:32:11.070 00:32:11.080 photochromic sunglasses at very cold
00:32:13.590 00:32:13.600 temperatures they will not become clear
00:32:15.690 00:32:15.700 very quickly like if you put it in your
00:32:17.190 00:32:17.200 freezer it may take months or weeks or
00:32:19.650 00:32:19.660 something to become clear where is it
00:32:21.720 00:32:21.730 high temperatures it works pretty well
00:32:22.950 00:32:22.960 and the copper oxide is responsible for
00:32:25.920 00:32:25.930 reducing that temperature dependence and
00:32:28.430 00:32:28.440 then we have sodium nitrate this is an
00:32:32.400 00:32:32.410 oxidizing
00:32:33.690 00:32:33.700 so when this breaks down in the high
00:32:35.280 00:32:35.290 temperatures of the kiln it releases
00:32:37.050 00:32:37.060 oxygen gas and this is important because
00:32:39.870 00:32:39.880 there could be a fairly strong reducing
00:32:42.630 00:32:42.640 environment in there or there could be
00:32:44.700 00:32:44.710 and we don't want that to happen because
00:32:46.140 00:32:46.150 if there's a reducing environment our
00:32:48.360 00:32:48.370 silver chloride or while this is being
00:32:50.730 00:32:50.740 formed the silver actually might be
00:32:52.260 00:32:52.270 reduced down to metallic silver before
00:32:54.930 00:32:54.940 the glass is even done being formed and
00:32:56.910 00:32:56.920 you can actually see this in previous
00:32:58.530 00:32:58.540 glass batches I had a problem with
00:33:00.300 00:33:00.310 little silver droplets being formed in
00:33:02.310 00:33:02.320 the crucible obviously this is no good
00:33:04.650 00:33:04.660 because we want that silver to stay in
00:33:06.360 00:33:06.370 solution for it to give us this property
00:33:11.390 00:33:11.400 and then finally I'm not sure if this is
00:33:14.490 00:33:14.500 critical or not I started adding sodium
00:33:16.860 00:33:16.870 silico fluoride to some of these batches
00:33:19.710 00:33:19.720 and the winning batch actually did have
00:33:21.240 00:33:21.250 a little bit of sodium silica fluoride
00:33:23.550 00:33:23.560 and the idea with this is that it
00:33:25.380 00:33:25.390 provides a nucleation center for the
00:33:28.050 00:33:28.060 silver chloride to form so the trick
00:33:30.480 00:33:30.490 with this heat treatment after making
00:33:32.640 00:33:32.650 the glass is that we we have these
00:33:34.680 00:33:34.690 silver chloride atoms distributed
00:33:36.630 00:33:36.640 throughout the glass it's sort of like a
00:33:38.160 00:33:38.170 photograph but it needs to be clear in
00:33:41.280 00:33:41.290 its clear state so there can't be too
00:33:42.690 00:33:42.700 many of these silver chloride atoms or
00:33:45.210 00:33:45.220 parent molecules so what we do is we
00:33:47.280 00:33:47.290 heat treat the thing and the silver
00:33:49.170 00:33:49.180 chloride we want to aggregate into
00:33:51.090 00:33:51.100 bigger chunks and that way they can
00:33:52.980 00:33:52.990 actually convert into metallic silver
00:33:54.840 00:33:54.850 and give us this great photochromic
00:33:56.430 00:33:56.440 property so what we do is add some non
00:34:00.930 00:34:00.940 dissolvable stuff these fluorides are
00:34:02.970 00:34:02.980 apparently not dissolvable in the glass
00:34:04.710 00:34:04.720 they're still clear but there's like
00:34:06.030 00:34:06.040 little pellets sort of distributed
00:34:07.620 00:34:07.630 throughout the glass and they provide
00:34:09.570 00:34:09.580 like a convenient source of condensing
00:34:12.900 00:34:12.910 for these silver chloride atoms to start
00:34:14.880 00:34:14.890 forming clumps so if you're having
00:34:16.890 00:34:16.900 problems getting the silver chloride to
00:34:18.659 00:34:18.669 clump you can add this and that will
00:34:20.130 00:34:20.140 help out the process if you don't want
00:34:25.380 00:34:25.390 to add the fluorides you have another
00:34:26.940 00:34:26.950 option to create these nucleation
00:34:28.890 00:34:28.900 centers what you can do is just keep
00:34:30.630 00:34:30.640 adding so much silver nitrate that
00:34:32.909 00:34:32.919 eventually all the silver chloride
00:34:34.830 00:34:34.840 that's going to form has formed and then
00:34:37.110 00:34:37.120 there's actually excess silver left over
00:34:39.120 00:34:39.130 and what will happen is the excess
00:34:41.550 00:34:41.560 silver will just hang out in the glass
00:34:43.380 00:34:43.390 and so it actually starts out kind of
00:34:45.240 00:34:45.250 dark basically the silver provides it
00:34:47.310 00:34:47.320 own nucleation centers and this one is
00:34:50.010 00:34:50.020 actually photochromic as well the trick
00:34:53.610 00:34:53.620 is that it just starts out kind of this
00:34:55.020 00:34:55.030 this reddish color because it's actually
00:34:56.850 00:34:56.860 silver nanoparticles that are
00:34:58.440 00:34:58.450 distributed throughout the glass giving
00:35:00.570 00:35:00.580 it this nice color actually so if you
00:35:02.790 00:35:02.800 want sunglasses that go from dark to
00:35:04.470 00:35:04.480 really dark that's this is the one for
00:35:06.360 00:35:06.370 you I forgot to mention that a lot of
00:35:14.100 00:35:14.110 these ingredients are volatile at really
00:35:16.380 00:35:16.390 high temperatures so we're in the kiln
00:35:18.030 00:35:18.040 it you know 1200 degrees see the silver
00:35:21.990 00:35:22.000 is not just hanging out in there the
00:35:23.280 00:35:23.290 silver is actually evaporating away at
00:35:25.620 00:35:25.630 1200 degrees C so to make matters even
00:35:29.730 00:35:29.740 more difficult after you've come up with
00:35:31.560 00:35:31.570 this you know special formulation if you
00:35:33.930 00:35:33.940 were to put all these ingredients into
00:35:35.160 00:35:35.170 one of those tiny melting dishes and
00:35:37.140 00:35:37.150 left it there overnight at 1200 degrees
00:35:38.790 00:35:38.800 C you wouldn't have any silver in there
00:35:41.040 00:35:41.050 left what so ever and your glass would
00:35:43.830 00:35:43.840 not be photochromic and so it's a really
00:35:47.040 00:35:47.050 good balancing act difficult balancing
00:35:49.080 00:35:49.090 act between getting the process set up
00:35:51.750 00:35:51.760 correctly such that you put in enough
00:35:53.370 00:35:53.380 ingredient and then cook it for long
00:35:55.500 00:35:55.510 enough such that just the right amount
00:35:57.210 00:35:57.220 of ingredient is left over at the end of
00:35:59.280 00:35:59.290 this process and it makes it very
00:36:01.500 00:36:01.510 difficult if you're using small batches
00:36:03.240 00:36:03.250 so if you do this yourself I would
00:36:05.190 00:36:05.200 recommend me using bigger melting
00:36:07.620 00:36:07.630 containers than I am so I'm making these
00:36:09.450 00:36:09.460 like tiny you know we're starting with
00:36:11.880 00:36:11.890 20 grams of bori this whole glass ends
00:36:13.950 00:36:13.960 up being about 20 grams because all this
00:36:15.750 00:36:15.760 carbonate gets burned off so we start
00:36:18.090 00:36:18.100 with maybe 30 grams of ingredients or 30
00:36:20.310 00:36:20.320 something and we end up with 20 grams of
00:36:22.710 00:36:22.720 glass that's really not very much and
00:36:25.590 00:36:25.600 the fact that the melting vessel has
00:36:27.660 00:36:27.670 like a lot of surface area to it means
00:36:30.660 00:36:30.670 that a lot of the silver is burning away
00:36:32.910 00:36:32.920 so you're basically talking about making
00:36:34.350 00:36:34.360 a soda and then leaving it on the
00:36:36.090 00:36:36.100 counter and waiting for it to go flat
00:36:37.950 00:36:37.960 but not too flat and then stopping it at
00:36:40.350 00:36:40.360 just the right point so that you have
00:36:41.670 00:36:41.680 just the right amount of ingredients and
00:36:43.370 00:36:43.380 remember that you know the silver is
00:36:45.660 00:36:45.670 going to volatilize that a different
00:36:47.130 00:36:47.140 rate than the other things are so if
00:36:48.720 00:36:48.730 you're trying to control the ratio
00:36:49.920 00:36:49.930 between silver and copper for example
00:36:51.450 00:36:51.460 and the copper is not volatile or it's
00:36:54.060 00:36:54.070 only a little bit volatile and the
00:36:56.100 00:36:56.110 silver is really volatile then there's
00:36:57.540 00:36:57.550 like this very narrow process window and
00:36:59.580 00:36:59.590 so it's it's a lot of tweek
00:37:01.350 00:37:01.360 I've made you know I'm probably 50
00:37:02.910 00:37:02.920 batches of glass over the last few
00:37:04.410 00:37:04.420 months and I found the process to be
00:37:06.690 00:37:06.700 kind of fun but also maybe a little
00:37:08.040 00:37:08.050 frustrating but I guess that is part of
00:37:10.020 00:37:10.030 the fun of it oh one last thing how do
00:37:14.460 00:37:14.470 you get these cool colors these are all
00:37:16.680 00:37:16.690 special oxides that can be added in
00:37:18.810 00:37:18.820 really small quantities and so this is
00:37:20.640 00:37:20.650 actually copper oxide so if you put in a
00:37:22.920 00:37:22.930 lot more copper oxide than two
00:37:25.080 00:37:25.090 milligrams let's say you put in like
00:37:27.090 00:37:27.100 actually 0.1 grams of solid of pure
00:37:29.820 00:37:29.830 copper oxide you end up with glass that
00:37:31.500 00:37:31.510 looks like this this one is chromium
00:37:34.650 00:37:34.660 chromium oxide is green and also
00:37:37.800 00:37:37.810 interestingly you can control the color
00:37:39.450 00:37:39.460 of it based on its oxidation state this
00:37:44.010 00:37:44.020 deep blue one is copper oxide when it's
00:37:46.380 00:37:46.390 oxidized as hard as you can I think it's
00:37:48.240 00:37:48.250 like two-plus maybe and then this is
00:37:50.250 00:37:50.260 also copper oxide that is neutral or
00:37:54.030 00:37:54.040 even slightly reducing so this might be
00:37:55.800 00:37:55.810 like one plus or something and a lot of
00:37:57.930 00:37:57.940 these oxides have two colors that you
00:37:59.790 00:37:59.800 can get to with different oxidation
00:38:01.350 00:38:01.360 states okay well I hope that was helpful
00:38:04.650 00:38:04.660 and feel free to ask me any questions if
00:38:06.870 00:38:06.880 you get into making glass and I will see
00:38:09.150 00:38:09.160 you next time bye
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