Gold Recovery - Simple Vacuum Filter Setup

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00:00:00.020 00:00:00.030 hey guys so a while ago I did a video
00:00:05.150 00:00:05.160 about various ways that I go about
00:00:07.750 00:00:07.760 getting my Solutions crystal clear
00:00:10.400 00:00:10.410 before actually precipitating the goal
00:00:12.950 00:00:12.960 and what we have here as you will see is
00:00:16.039 00:00:16.049 a really horrific lis polluted pregnant
00:00:20.470 00:00:20.480 chloroauric acid solution so golden
00:00:23.509 00:00:23.519 solution it's already been the NOx so
00:00:26.929 00:00:26.939 the excess nitric acid has been
00:00:29.259 00:00:29.269 converted to sulfuric acid using self
00:00:33.049 00:00:33.059 emic acid and now in the past I would
00:00:37.549 00:00:37.559 have diluted the solution greatly and
00:00:40.610 00:00:40.620 then I would let it settle for a day or
00:00:42.770 00:00:42.780 two and siphon off the clear solution at
00:00:46.850 00:00:46.860 the top but I figured it's probably a
00:00:51.229 00:00:51.239 good time to update my techniques a
00:00:53.060 00:00:53.070 little bit and so what I've been doing
00:00:54.560 00:00:54.570 for the last while is I've got a very
00:00:57.770 00:00:57.780 simple vacuum filter setup I thought it
00:00:59.959 00:00:59.969 might be worthwhile showing you guys how
00:01:02.360 00:01:02.370 that's going to work so if you bear with
00:01:06.109 00:01:06.119 me for a second let's get this underway
00:01:08.990 00:01:09.000 so I'm just going to put this aside for
00:01:10.850 00:01:10.860 now so we've got about 100 milliliters
00:01:13.789 00:01:13.799 of a really terribly dirty solution
00:01:16.399 00:01:16.409 there should contain about 3 or 4 grams
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00:01:25.850 00:01:25.860 large volume of solution for 3 or 4
00:01:28.520 00:01:28.530 grams but it's still far smaller than I
00:01:31.370 00:01:31.380 used to do back in the olden days and so
00:01:34.130 00:01:34.140 my first big recommendation is to try to
00:01:36.380 00:01:36.390 make as little waste as possible by
00:01:39.140 00:01:39.150 using as little acid as you really need
00:01:41.780 00:01:41.790 to get the job done so that 100 moles
00:01:44.300 00:01:44.310 already a little bit deluded probably
00:01:46.249 00:01:46.259 started as about 50 moles of
00:01:48.039 00:01:48.049 hydrochloric acid okay let's get my
00:01:51.859 00:01:51.869 gloves off so I'm going to start with a
00:01:55.270 00:01:55.280 catch container that is just in case we
00:01:59.300 00:01:59.310 have any spools or breakages and we are
00:02:03.499 00:02:03.509 going to use a little vacuum flask a
00:02:07.069 00:02:07.079 vacuum filter flask of this is about a
00:02:08.809 00:02:08.819 250 mo
00:02:10.339 00:02:10.349 and with that I'm going to use just a
00:02:12.890 00:02:12.900 standard everyday kitchen type funnel
00:02:17.149 00:02:17.159 it's about compared to the size of the
00:02:19.819 00:02:19.829 215 or flies the funnels like big
00:02:21.770 00:02:21.780 predators quite like the nice finger
00:02:24.020 00:02:24.030 that I can slice as it's got a little
00:02:25.610 00:02:25.620 bit of hips for the source of our vacuum
00:02:28.670 00:02:28.680 and just show you that is going to be a
00:02:35.470 00:02:35.480 automotive brake bleeding kit so they
00:02:39.530 00:02:39.540 these automotive kids have the little
00:02:41.720 00:02:41.730 motor way you're not focusing there that
00:02:45.199 00:02:45.209 things up a little bit yeah a little bit
00:02:49.780 00:02:49.790 unusual all right
00:02:53.030 00:02:53.040 not sure what's going on with the focus
00:02:55.129 00:02:55.139 of this but so we've got that little
00:02:56.659 00:02:56.669 vacuum pump there that is just a manual
00:02:59.539 00:02:59.549 vacuum pump and the only bit out of this
00:03:01.729 00:03:01.739 kit we're really going to use is the
00:03:03.709 00:03:03.719 vacuum pump and one of the bits of hose
00:03:05.959 00:03:05.969 we'll get those out and we'll put them
00:03:08.899 00:03:08.909 aside get our filter flask set up back
00:03:15.080 00:03:15.090 here
00:03:15.649 00:03:15.659 now the a lot of normal funnels that you
00:03:19.129 00:03:19.139 buy deliberately try to avoid a good
00:03:22.580 00:03:22.590 seal around the neck so they have these
00:03:24.319 00:03:24.329 little ribs and you can go ahead and buy
00:03:28.939 00:03:28.949 the glass type funnel that fits really
00:03:32.210 00:03:32.220 well into the the filter flasks but I
00:03:37.119 00:03:37.129 prefer to just use the standard system
00:03:39.699 00:03:39.709 now obviously putting a normal filter
00:03:42.860 00:03:42.870 paper in this funnel is going to be
00:03:45.890 00:03:45.900 pointless so what we're going to do is
00:03:48.469 00:03:48.479 we're going to make a Charmin plug which
00:03:50.899 00:03:50.909 is a plug a filter material that's going
00:03:53.899 00:03:53.909 to sit in the bottom of the funnel here
00:03:56.479 00:03:56.489 and it will lit basically no solution go
00:04:01.039 00:04:01.049 through up into the point where we have
00:04:03.589 00:04:03.599 that setup and we apply a little bit of
00:04:05.509 00:04:05.519 vacuum through here so for the plug
00:04:08.719 00:04:08.729 today I am going to use there's a
00:04:12.589 00:04:12.599 standard cheap
00:04:16.180 00:04:16.190 Supermarket have non-scented plain white
00:04:21.170 00:04:21.180 paper Dells I'm going to grab a couple
00:04:24.620 00:04:24.630 of sheets like that I can just start
00:04:28.970 00:04:28.980 folding them a few times over and over
00:04:30.830 00:04:30.840 and over the idea being that when we put
00:04:36.350 00:04:36.360 that into the funnel we want it to be
00:04:40.180 00:04:40.190 substantially difficult to to get it
00:04:43.640 00:04:43.650 through the funnel so give it a twist
00:04:46.580 00:04:46.590 like that see if I can start getting it
00:04:51.100 00:04:51.110 yes you can see I'm just basically
00:04:53.330 00:04:53.340 squeezing that as well as rotating it so
00:04:56.630 00:04:56.640 get as much of it into the funnel as we
00:04:58.940 00:04:58.950 can
00:05:06.169 00:05:06.179 trying to pull as much of it through as
00:05:08.639 00:05:08.649 possible obviously the tighter you can
00:05:12.059 00:05:12.069 make this fit in there the better the
00:05:14.070 00:05:14.080 whole system is going to work and what
00:05:17.729 00:05:17.739 you want to try and avoid is to have
00:05:20.909 00:05:20.919 your spiral too loose so that material
00:05:23.249 00:05:23.259 that you want to try and filter out can
00:05:25.529 00:05:25.539 actually make its way in a spiral down
00:05:27.439 00:05:27.449 then it's usually a good idea to just
00:05:29.909 00:05:29.919 use some scissors and chop off any
00:05:32.790 00:05:32.800 excess down the bottom and then the top
00:05:36.479 00:05:36.489 and just squish it with your fingers to
00:05:41.449 00:05:41.459 get it really and into that into that
00:05:45.329 00:05:45.339 neck of the finalist tight as you can
00:05:46.799 00:05:46.809 get it
00:05:47.399 00:05:47.409 okay now I'll show you how fast this is
00:05:51.329 00:05:51.339 so we have already decided that there's
00:05:54.329 00:05:54.339 going to be not a seal up the top here
00:05:56.699 00:05:56.709 which is going to make this whole setup
00:05:58.949 00:05:58.959 not work particularly well with vacuum
00:06:00.540 00:06:00.550 so to create a seal there I'm just going
00:06:03.989 00:06:03.999 to use some of this stuff is called blue
00:06:07.169 00:06:07.179 tack in New Zealand it's also called pre
00:06:09.209 00:06:09.219 stick in other parts of the world it's
00:06:10.739 00:06:10.749 basically that kind of gray putty type
00:06:15.419 00:06:15.429 stuff so essentially get rid of there so
00:06:19.319 00:06:19.329 you're see where I can put this so you
00:06:21.509 00:06:21.519 guys can see what I'm going to do
00:06:23.149 00:06:23.159 basically we want to make a want to make
00:06:26.999 00:06:27.009 a ring that is the same diameter as the
00:06:32.509 00:06:32.519 as the inside of our filter flask so
00:06:37.829 00:06:37.839 that it's it's kind of on there like
00:06:40.169 00:06:40.179 that and then when we grab the funnel
00:06:42.869 00:06:42.879 and we push on the funnel you will see
00:06:45.839 00:06:45.849 that it's pushed some of the material
00:06:48.479 00:06:48.489 into the glass and then we can just go
00:06:51.029 00:06:51.039 round while squeezing on the top just
00:06:54.229 00:06:54.239 press on the side and that's going to
00:06:56.850 00:06:56.860 make a nice a nice airtight seal okay
00:07:03.389 00:07:03.399 now
00:07:05.180 00:07:05.190 that is quite good mix tape and attach
00:07:11.480 00:07:11.490 the vacuum pump that one to our house
00:07:20.000 00:07:20.010 off-camera but that's done and attach
00:07:23.600 00:07:23.610 the other end of the hose to the filter
00:07:29.360 00:07:29.370 funnel now I have seen some people do
00:07:31.840 00:07:31.850 similar things to do this without buying
00:07:35.510 00:07:35.520 an actual filter flask but the reality
00:07:38.810 00:07:38.820 is this is about a $20 item that will
00:07:42.020 00:07:42.030 have almost an infinite life as long as
00:07:44.600 00:07:44.610 you look after it so I wasn't really
00:07:46.960 00:07:46.970 worried about that so much okay now
00:07:51.110 00:07:51.120 let's just grab a little bit of water
00:07:53.960 00:07:53.970 and just wait that down a little bit
00:08:00.460 00:08:00.470 okay and once again put some water in
00:08:04.940 00:08:04.950 there now so I'm just squeezing haven't
00:08:08.030 00:08:08.040 touched any solutions yet so I'll put
00:08:10.340 00:08:10.350 the gloves on in a second for that but
00:08:13.610 00:08:13.620 that's looking pretty good
00:08:14.720 00:08:14.730 and now let me just quickly grab my
00:08:18.560 00:08:18.570 gloves and then we'll get some solution
00:08:20.150 00:08:20.160 into it now the idea is going to be to
00:08:24.560 00:08:24.570 not include not increase the volume of
00:08:27.350 00:08:27.360 this of the solution too much so I'm
00:08:30.740 00:08:30.750 going to pour the solution and let that
00:08:33.680 00:08:33.690 filter through completely under vacuum
00:08:35.510 00:08:35.520 and then I will wash it out with water a
00:08:38.060 00:08:38.070 couple of times so my hundred Mullis 100
00:08:41.300 00:08:41.310 milliliters of solution is probably
00:08:43.520 00:08:43.530 going to end up in the just start
00:08:46.850 00:08:46.860 looking up the Arish 100 millimeters the
00:08:50.420 00:08:50.430 solution is probably going to end up
00:08:51.860 00:08:51.870 being about 150 or so okay so we've got
00:08:55.250 00:08:55.260 the solution there get rid of watch
00:08:57.980 00:08:57.990 gloss these things are terrible I've
00:09:00.920 00:09:00.930 broken probably about ten of them over
00:09:03.680 00:09:03.690 the last couple of years they must be
00:09:06.590 00:09:06.600 keeping some watch glass factory in
00:09:08.120 00:09:08.130 business so be careful of those just
00:09:13.070 00:09:13.080 going to give the thermometer a spray
00:09:15.080 00:09:15.090 down there make sure none of the
00:09:18.950 00:09:18.960 solution track over with a thermometer
00:09:21.610 00:09:21.620 okay now we're going to pour the
00:09:24.020 00:09:24.030 solution
00:09:28.499 00:09:28.509 to merits
00:09:34.840 00:09:34.850 really horrific looking stuff just came
00:09:37.639 00:09:37.649 to is that I
00:09:44.440 00:09:44.450 play like that okay now you will notice
00:09:51.790 00:09:51.800 we've got solution up here
00:09:53.470 00:09:53.480 nothing yet filtering through the vacuum
00:09:56.829 00:09:56.839 pump as you will see has no vacuum it so
00:09:59.410 00:09:59.420 what I'm going to do is I'm going to
00:10:01.180 00:10:01.190 start pumping initially what I'm doing
00:10:03.040 00:10:03.050 is I'm pumping all the air out of the
00:10:04.720 00:10:04.730 system but pretty soon all the air will
00:10:08.590 00:10:08.600 be gone and you will start drawing a
00:10:10.240 00:10:10.250 vacuum now I have decided to limit that
00:10:13.420 00:10:13.430 limiters to about 1 inch of mercury for
00:10:16.660 00:10:16.670 no particular reason and as you will see
00:10:19.000 00:10:19.010 if you look there and some solution is
00:10:22.030 00:10:22.040 starting to work its way through that
00:10:23.560 00:10:23.570 plug and quite slowly at this point but
00:10:26.230 00:10:26.240 once it works its way through things
00:10:28.600 00:10:28.610 will speed up a bit now at this point I
00:10:31.660 00:10:31.670 know a lot of people are concerned that
00:10:33.430 00:10:33.440 they're going to be sitting there and
00:10:35.490 00:10:35.500 squeezing the vacuum pump all day I'm
00:10:38.800 00:10:38.810 not quite sure what they're doing wrong
00:10:41.860 00:10:41.870 but they're doing something wrong I
00:10:43.600 00:10:43.610 suspect that they've got problems with
00:10:45.370 00:10:45.380 their ceiling up here because I can
00:10:48.100 00:10:48.110 basically do those few squeezes and
00:10:51.509 00:10:51.519 realistically there's no leaks in the
00:10:53.620 00:10:53.630 system so the vacuum is not going to go
00:10:55.329 00:10:55.339 anywhere so that's going to stay pretty
00:10:57.009 00:10:57.019 much right there so I can put this down
00:10:58.449 00:10:58.459 in a few minutes or let's say 10 minutes
00:11:01.960 00:11:01.970 maybe 15 I'm going to have to come back
00:11:04.480 00:11:04.490 and give that a few more pumps but
00:11:07.650 00:11:07.660 that's not really that big a problem it
00:11:10.750 00:11:10.760 only takes 2 or 3 pumps and as you will
00:11:13.900 00:11:13.910 see we have now got some solution coming
00:11:17.470 00:11:17.480 through the filter there you will notice
00:11:23.079 00:11:23.089 that it's dropping quite slowly but the
00:11:26.470 00:11:26.480 key here is that the solution is coming
00:11:28.480 00:11:28.490 out very very very clean obviously the
00:11:32.380 00:11:32.390 solution has already had time to cool
00:11:34.120 00:11:34.130 which means that any salts that can stay
00:11:38.410 00:11:38.420 in a warm solution but are going to come
00:11:40.420 00:11:40.430 out when it cools already precipitated
00:11:42.250 00:11:42.260 out they should be filtered out no
00:11:44.290 00:11:44.300 problem so I I think probably the best
00:11:48.699 00:11:48.709 bit of this wind is if I line that up a
00:11:51.550 00:11:51.560 little bit better is I will sit this
00:11:56.020 00:11:56.030 time lapse and it can just sit here and
00:11:58.850 00:11:58.860 filter just for your reference it is now
00:12:01.310 00:12:01.320 exactly 8 o'clock 8 p.m. here so I so we
00:12:05.570 00:12:05.580 can ever look at how long it basically
00:12:07.100 00:12:07.110 takes to Salter this hundred milliliters
00:12:08.900 00:12:08.910 of solution but this is not really
00:12:11.840 00:12:11.850 something that I have to sit here for it
00:12:14.540 00:12:14.550 can just it can just do its thing until
00:12:17.240 00:12:17.250 it's finished and as I said I'll have to
00:12:19.850 00:12:19.860 come by every 15 minutes or so and give
00:12:21.710 00:12:21.720 this pump a few squeezes but you'll see
00:12:24.470 00:12:24.480 at a time that I've been talking it's
00:12:26.120 00:12:26.130 not really gone down substantially it'll
00:12:28.280 00:12:28.290 just it'll just basically sit there
00:12:31.190 00:12:31.200 holding its vacuum because there's no
00:12:33.350 00:12:33.360 air leaks in the system so yeah I'll put
00:12:36.800 00:12:36.810 it on time lapse a bit and be back when
00:12:39.950 00:12:39.960 we're finished of this and I think we
00:12:42.320 00:12:42.330 might do a live precipitation on camera
00:12:45.200 00:12:45.210 ok look you guys later
00:12:55.730 00:12:55.740 you
00:12:59.730 00:12:59.740 okay so definitely not my most exciting
00:13:02.920 00:13:02.930 video so far so it's about 10 o'clock
00:13:06.010 00:13:06.020 now so a couple of hours have gone by
00:13:08.920 00:13:08.930 and I probably pop by once every 40
00:13:12.460 00:13:12.470 minutes or so to to give the vacuum pump
00:13:16.780 00:13:16.790 a few squeezes and you'll see it's if I
00:13:20.670 00:13:20.680 get a better vacuum going again now and
00:13:24.900 00:13:24.910 fold it up so we're at about 200
00:13:27.910 00:13:27.920 milliliters of solution now so I have
00:13:30.030 00:13:30.040 diluted this substantially to wash any
00:13:34.120 00:13:34.130 excess solution out of the paper and and
00:13:38.110 00:13:38.120 the kind of remaining junk up above and
00:13:41.320 00:13:41.330 what we have here is a very nice clear
00:13:47.020 00:13:47.030 solution I'll see if I can get a bit of
00:13:51.430 00:13:51.440 illumination in there it's kind of hard
00:13:53.380 00:13:53.390 to glue may that's probably giving you
00:13:56.770 00:13:56.780 some idea of the clarity of the solution
00:13:58.840 00:13:58.850 so what I'll quickly do so that pretty
00:14:03.370 00:14:03.380 much rounds off the whole concept of a
00:14:07.240 00:14:07.250 simple cheap effective vacuum filter
00:14:10.390 00:14:10.400 system and so what will quickly do now
00:14:12.940 00:14:12.950 is I know that we're probably looking at
00:14:15.940 00:14:15.950 about three to four grams of gold in
00:14:17.920 00:14:17.930 there
00:14:18.310 00:14:18.320 so I will measure out eight grams of
00:14:22.330 00:14:22.340 sodium metabisulfite and we'll just add
00:14:24.610 00:14:24.620 that in the dry form and see if we can
00:14:27.010 00:14:27.020 see a nice reaction to round off this
00:14:28.780 00:14:28.790 night so I'll just get this over to a
00:14:31.240 00:14:31.250 beaker and we'll give that a gap okay so
00:14:34.900 00:14:34.910 I've got the solution transferred to the
00:14:37.690 00:14:37.700 beaker but a bit of speculum ination and
00:14:40.060 00:14:40.070 I'm just going to slowly add the eight
00:14:42.130 00:14:42.140 grams of sodium metabisulfite I prefer
00:14:45.430 00:14:45.440 to add this as a solid powder at the
00:14:49.630 00:14:49.640 time just because it doesn't actually
00:14:51.190 00:14:51.200 increase the amount of solution
00:14:55.110 00:14:55.120 especially the more solution you end up
00:14:58.450 00:14:58.460 with the more white stuff going we're
00:15:00.070 00:15:00.080 going to have to treat okay so
00:15:04.460 00:15:04.470 we've got it in there see that out and
00:15:12.720 00:15:12.730 what we'll do is
00:15:19.040 00:15:19.050 give it a quick stir hopefully we should
00:15:22.130 00:15:22.140 see a bit of the reaction happening
00:15:23.930 00:15:23.940 00:15:35.030 00:15:35.040 not superfast but as you can see we are
00:15:40.389 00:15:40.399 going quite round there
00:15:48.610 00:15:48.620 this fear of that
00:15:52.820 00:15:52.830 like there's something like that
00:16:08.360 00:16:08.370 yeah and that's pretty much it for the
00:16:12.220 00:16:12.230 for the precipitation I can already see
00:16:15.019 00:16:15.029 a little bit of gold floating at the top
00:16:18.350 00:16:18.360 there and I would guess that the golden
00:16:23.090 00:16:23.100 this is going to drop relatively quickly
00:16:26.210 00:16:26.220 seeing as it's quite concentrated and
00:16:31.540 00:16:31.550 there should be a reasonably clean
00:16:34.519 00:16:34.529 solution there was it was obviously
00:16:36.290 00:16:36.300 green because there's a little bit of
00:16:37.579 00:16:37.589 copper in there of the gold but yeah
00:16:40.400 00:16:40.410 look forward to seeing all those cars
00:16:42.129 00:16:42.139 anyway hope you guys enjoyed this little
00:16:44.600 00:16:44.610 video and good luck in visa
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