Goodman furnace failed heat exchanger - GKS

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all right welcome Steve Holland here
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00:00:04.340 00:00:04.350 ethos skill let's go over we're going to
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00:00:07.579 00:00:07.589 Goodman model gks tubular heat exchanger
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00:00:56.750 00:00:56.760 let's go ahead and get into that video
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00:01:49.819 00:01:49.829 the other day I don't know if that's
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00:01:55.969 00:01:55.979 first if you notice right here some of
00:02:01.760 00:02:01.770 you may notice this
00:02:06.780 00:02:06.790 would that help me that tells me that
00:02:10.300 00:02:10.310 somebody may have bent the plan and the
00:02:12.340 00:02:12.350 plan may have started here and went to
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00:02:23.380 00:02:23.390 problem that we found let me just show
00:02:24.640 00:02:24.650 you what I discovered here do it a few
00:02:39.610 00:02:39.620 reasons why that could have happened and
00:02:41.110 00:02:41.120 I think I figured out why I'll tell you
00:02:45.640 00:02:45.650 I don't know who installed this furnace
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00:02:50.890 00:02:50.900 tubular heat exchanger another area to
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00:03:02.350 00:03:02.360 down in this section and that crimp
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00:03:16.060 00:03:16.070 can see any pitting our holes so here's
00:03:20.020 00:03:20.030 a couple thing that could be happening
00:03:21.040 00:03:21.050 one if there's any pitting or holes that
00:03:24.430 00:03:24.440 you find down on this lower section okay
00:03:29.729 00:03:29.739 picking our holes in that lower section
00:03:31.900 00:03:31.910 what's gonna happen is remember what we
00:03:34.300 00:03:34.310 teach erratic actions that are
00:03:35.740 00:03:35.750 condensing gas furnaces with an induced
00:03:38.080 00:03:38.090 draft floor or an event for assembly
00:03:40.090 00:03:40.100 cannot really induce traps because it is
00:03:42.009 00:03:42.019 actually the entire venting process the
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00:03:48.850 00:03:48.860 but these are really vent runners that
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00:03:58.449 00:03:58.459 if we find holes and that's where you're
00:04:00.040 00:04:00.050 gonna find them if you're gonna look at
00:04:01.240 00:04:01.250 by pitting you're gonna find them down
00:04:03.160 00:04:03.170 in here and the reason that's happening
00:04:05.080 00:04:05.090 is you're getting some condensation as
00:04:06.880 00:04:06.890 you're condensing in the primary and
00:04:08.590 00:04:08.600 remember anytime you condense in a
00:04:10.300 00:04:10.310 primary and bad
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00:04:16.490 00:04:16.500 know exactly why this happened I've got
00:04:17.960 00:04:17.970 my theories number to share with you you
00:04:21.289 00:04:21.299 know that one's ready to bust through
00:04:24.700 00:04:24.710 that one's bust it up so let's look at
00:04:27.650 00:04:27.660 one other thing and it will recap what
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00:04:31.430 00:04:31.440 discovering on some of these models is
00:04:32.960 00:04:32.970 gasket right here
00:04:34.360 00:04:34.370 if you look so you know that gasket on
00:04:38.870 00:04:38.880 that coupler box they call this this
00:04:41.210 00:04:41.220 here is the coupler box it connects the
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00:04:48.740 00:04:48.750 the bottom what do you notice
00:04:51.890 00:04:51.900 let's just check in here see what I'm
00:04:57.650 00:04:57.660 noticing you noticing leakage see that
00:05:04.659 00:05:04.669 leakage and possibly a breach so if
00:05:09.500 00:05:09.510 we're drawing air through that gasket we
00:05:13.580 00:05:13.590 could end up with this so here's my
00:05:15.800 00:05:15.810 summary of this particular chamber this
00:05:19.490 00:05:19.500 particular chamber nice number is this
00:05:22.250 00:05:22.260 or a heat exchanger number one the
00:05:26.420 00:05:26.430 plenum may have been too small so we
00:05:28.190 00:05:28.200 could have had airflow problems and we
00:05:30.020 00:05:30.030 overheated the primary number two we
00:05:33.110 00:05:33.120 could have been over firing the furnace
00:05:34.490 00:05:34.500 I have no idea what the gas pressure was
00:05:36.469 00:05:36.479 set at number three this furnace I have
00:05:41.300 00:05:41.310 no idea what size return air dropper
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00:05:45.710 00:05:45.720 four that gasket could be leaking all
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00:05:49.879 00:05:49.889 different things here's the deal
00:05:52.570 00:05:52.580 yeah service techs out there when you
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00:06:02.000 00:06:02.010 temperature eyes we exert that your
00:06:04.100 00:06:04.110 filters are sized according to the
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00:06:08.210 00:06:08.220 for those of you that are out there
00:06:09.800 00:06:09.810 performing maintenance and repairs on
00:06:11.300 00:06:11.310 these furnaces don't just go in and do a
00:06:13.670 00:06:13.680 repair make sure you do a full
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00:06:35.709 00:06:35.719 the back and if that gasket is weakened
00:06:37.269 00:06:37.279 guess what you have challenges so that's
00:06:40.029 00:06:40.039 a little bit of in the rabbit Tech
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00:06:47.619 00:06:47.629 the model GTS by Goodman alright so
00:06:52.289 00:06:52.299 there you have it sorry about the
00:06:54.099 00:06:54.109 sniffles in the video I'm sure somebody
00:06:55.869 00:06:55.879 I'll come it down that then beating a
00:06:57.729 00:06:57.739 fighting it cold but I'm not one of
00:06:59.169 00:06:59.179 those guys that doesn't go to work
00:07:00.549 00:07:00.559 because I have a cold I work I love
00:07:02.409 00:07:02.419 doing what I do I love doing this stuff
00:07:04.809 00:07:04.819 by the way this is awesome so let's just
00:07:07.959 00:07:07.969 hop really quick let's let's just talk
00:07:09.369 00:07:09.379 about what to look for our soul anytime
00:07:11.739 00:07:11.749 if you're a maintenance tech if you're a
00:07:13.749 00:07:13.759 repair tech out there or if you're
00:07:15.069 00:07:15.079 entering the HVAC trade if you come
00:07:18.429 00:07:18.439 across a furnace that has a tubular heat
00:07:20.619 00:07:20.629 exchanger like this one number one check
00:07:23.889 00:07:23.899 those crimps on those two bends you have
00:07:26.529 00:07:26.539 to check all of them and you have to
00:07:27.969 00:07:27.979 look for very tiny holes we're seeing it
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00:07:33.369 00:07:33.379 companies I own we probably change out
00:07:35.529 00:07:35.539 on an annual basis we probably change
00:07:38.229 00:07:38.239 out north of 100 heat exchangers a year
00:07:40.899 00:07:40.909 or even more so make sure you check in
00:07:44.019 00:07:44.029 those two bends check that gasket behind
00:07:46.149 00:07:46.159 the furnace you have to have the correct
00:07:47.649 00:07:47.659 tools to do it but check that gasket
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00:07:51.279 00:07:51.289 leaking there could be a problem the
00:07:54.159 00:07:54.169 other thing every single demand call or
00:07:56.529 00:07:56.539 no heat call and every single
00:07:58.659 00:07:58.669 maintenance call you need to check your
00:08:00.669 00:08:00.679 temperature eyes your static duct
00:08:02.769 00:08:02.779 pressures your gas pressures your Delta
00:08:06.100 00:08:06.110 T's make sure that your filter sizes are
00:08:08.859 00:08:08.869 compliant with the manufacturers specs
00:08:11.339 00:08:11.349 those are the things to check now
00:08:13.749 00:08:13.759 possible causes in this particular model
00:08:17.019 00:08:17.029 so we could have had a high static
00:08:19.089 00:08:19.099 pressure problem as a result of a couple
00:08:21.819 00:08:21.829 of things one undersized plenum - it
00:08:25.869 00:08:25.879 could have been too small of a return
00:08:28.019 00:08:28.029 three it could have been too small of a
00:08:30.249 00:08:30.259 filter or lack of maintenance where the
00:08:32.619 00:08:32.629 filter was was not being changed off not
00:08:34.990 00:08:35.000 often enough
00:08:36.020 00:08:36.030 and also be really careful with some of
00:08:38.390 00:08:38.400 these filters with the high Merv ratings
00:08:39.950 00:08:39.960 there - air restrictive three or
00:08:42.620 00:08:42.630 manometers or check that to check that
00:08:44.270 00:08:44.280 pressure drop across some of these
00:08:45.890 00:08:45.900 filters today you're gonna find out that
00:08:47.360 00:08:47.370 they're too restrictive so what you do
00:08:49.610 00:08:49.620 in that case is if you want to install a
00:08:51.170 00:08:51.180 good filter on a furnace oversize the
00:08:53.870 00:08:53.880 filter you can never go wrong over
00:08:55.910 00:08:55.920 sizing the filter and by the way I
00:08:58.160 00:08:58.170 always recommend if you can bottom-mount
00:09:00.410 00:09:00.420 returns bottom on return is the best on
00:09:03.080 00:09:03.090 any furnace today with a large filter
00:09:05.710 00:09:05.720 all right back to possible causes too
00:09:09.080 00:09:09.090 high of gas pressure that could be an
00:09:12.140 00:09:12.150 issue you know you start running into
00:09:13.310 00:09:13.320 higher gas pressures you're going to see
00:09:16.340 00:09:16.350 problems like this the other thing that
00:09:18.380 00:09:18.390 I didn't mention in the video vent
00:09:20.990 00:09:21.000 piping so let's just say that each one
00:09:23.720 00:09:23.730 of those items we talked about let's
00:09:25.160 00:09:25.170 just say a little bit of it's a problem
00:09:27.290 00:09:27.300 or a little bit of his out of spec maybe
00:09:30.110 00:09:30.120 the venting is a little too small maybe
00:09:32.210 00:09:32.220 the duct works a little too small it
00:09:34.250 00:09:34.260 makes just a little bit well guess what
00:09:35.990 00:09:36.000 that all adds up to create a major
00:09:37.280 00:09:37.290 failure so that's all you need to know
00:09:41.090 00:09:41.100 about that model gks heat exchanger just
00:09:43.550 00:09:43.560 check those check those items and I
00:09:46.280 00:09:46.290 think you'll you'll do well for your
00:09:47.870 00:09:47.880 customers but but don't be lazy guys
00:09:50.180 00:09:50.190 we're changing this industry through
00:09:51.500 00:09:51.510 rapid tech we're trying to change the
00:09:52.760 00:09:52.770 industry and get technicians the proper
00:09:55.280 00:09:55.290 real life experience training that they
00:09:57.680 00:09:57.690 need so that when you go into a home to
00:09:59.870 00:09:59.880 change an igniter or an inducer motor or
00:10:02.000 00:10:02.010 a capacitor you're also checking some of
00:10:04.220 00:10:04.230 these other things and you basically go
00:10:06.320 00:10:06.330 from being a zero to a hero right
00:10:07.790 00:10:07.800 because some technicians out there they
00:10:10.640 00:10:10.650 don't check it and when you start
00:10:12.440 00:10:12.450 checking it you're going to start to see
00:10:14.120 00:10:14.130 see the problems and you'll be able to
00:10:16.400 00:10:16.410 bring it up and address it with your
00:10:17.480 00:10:17.490 customers and by the way when you have a
00:10:19.730 00:10:19.740 furnace that's up that has the correct
00:10:21.230 00:10:21.240 static pressure correct filter correct
00:10:23.510 00:10:23.520 venting correct gas pressure you throw
00:10:25.670 00:10:25.680 your combustion analyzer on there you're
00:10:27.920 00:10:27.930 gonna you're going to give that customer
00:10:29.350 00:10:29.360 exactly what they want the comfort all
00:10:32.000 00:10:32.010 right you're giving them comfort you're
00:10:33.470 00:10:33.480 giving them efficiency and you're giving
00:10:35.960 00:10:35.970 a peace of mind and longevity out of a
00:10:37.700 00:10:37.710 out of a furnace so last thing is my
00:10:43.340 00:10:43.350 name is again Steve Holland if you want
00:10:44.930 00:10:44.940 to email me it's etho skill e th OS ki
00:10:47.990 00:10:48.000 ll at GE
00:10:49.250 00:10:49.260 calm or you can call Scott at eight six
00:10:52.490 00:10:52.500 six nine nine to 1717 if you'd like to
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00:11:15.020 00:11:15.030 have a great evening
00:11:15.830 00:11:15.840 thank you so much and I look forward to
00:11:18.280 00:11:18.290 getting you some more videos
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