HOT WATER HEATING - How to Use a Tank-Style Water Heater

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in this video I want to show you two
00:00:02.720 00:00:02.730 different methods for using a tank style
00:00:05.110 00:00:05.120 gas-fired water heater to power a
00:00:08.330 00:00:08.340 hydronic heating system so that's hot
00:00:11.419 00:00:11.429 water heating either an in-floor system
00:00:14.180 00:00:14.190 like you see here or a radiator system
00:00:17.420 00:00:17.430 so this is the tank style heater one of
00:00:20.240 00:00:20.250 the advantages of this approach as
00:00:21.740 00:00:21.750 opposed to a boiler is that you've
00:00:24.019 00:00:24.029 automatically got a feed for domestic
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00:00:28.970 00:00:28.980 things so this line here we've got the
00:00:31.880 00:00:31.890 cold water coming into the tank and then
00:00:34.819 00:00:34.829 up here we have the hot water going out
00:00:38.000 00:00:38.010 to the taps and fixtures this is a heat
00:00:40.280 00:00:40.290 trap here this is just a two 90 degree
00:00:43.040 00:00:43.050 bends and the purpose of that is to stop
00:00:45.970 00:00:45.980 the hot water from from conducting all
00:00:49.970 00:00:49.980 the way up and and getting wasted by
00:00:52.729 00:00:52.739 radiating out of the hot water pipe so
00:00:55.160 00:00:55.170 this stops the conduction from going on
00:00:57.709 00:00:57.719 so it saves a little bit of energy we've
00:00:59.660 00:00:59.670 got an expansion tank here because when
00:01:01.400 00:01:01.410 the cold water goes in it's going to
00:01:03.889 00:01:03.899 expand as it gets hot and in many
00:01:06.620 00:01:06.630 situations you need a tank there's a
00:01:09.730 00:01:09.740 membrane in here and there's air in part
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00:01:15.649 00:01:15.659 what's going on so this approach this
00:01:17.810 00:01:17.820 side here the domestic side is common to
00:01:20.300 00:01:20.310 the two systems I'm going to be showing
00:01:21.950 00:01:21.960 you and it's what happens on the other
00:01:23.719 00:01:23.729 side of the tank that really matters so
00:01:27.320 00:01:27.330 here in this simple system we have the
00:01:30.170 00:01:30.180 hot water coming off the tank in this
00:01:32.929 00:01:32.939 particular case the tank has two sets of
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00:01:40.039 00:01:40.049 water comes off here and it goes around
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00:01:53.690 00:01:53.700 thermostat calls for Heat
00:01:55.969 00:01:55.979 so the thermostat detects that the room
00:01:58.580 00:01:58.590 is too cold and it delivers it triggers
00:02:01.880 00:02:01.890 this circulator pump here which starts
00:02:04.819 00:02:04.829 the flow of water you'll notice that the
00:02:06.800 00:02:06.810 circulator pump is installed in a fairly
00:02:09.350 00:02:09.360 low part of this
00:02:10.590 00:02:10.600 it saves a lot of trouble because it
00:02:12.750 00:02:12.760 means they're far less likely to have
00:02:14.190 00:02:14.200 that pump prevented from working by an
00:02:17.820 00:02:17.830 airlock I mean there's lots of water
00:02:19.380 00:02:19.390 down here and that pump is going to to
00:02:21.660 00:02:21.670 pump that water fine so the thermostat
00:02:26.240 00:02:26.250 calls for heat turns on the circulator
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00:02:40.140 00:02:40.150 and the tank has its own aqua stat
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00:02:54.420 00:02:54.430 what's happening here in the room now
00:02:56.660 00:02:56.670 the the simple system is good but it
00:03:00.630 00:03:00.640 can't be used in all jurisdictions
00:03:02.810 00:03:02.820 because of a potential problem and that
00:03:06.510 00:03:06.520 problem has to do with the fact that in
00:03:08.790 00:03:08.800 the off season the water that's in the
00:03:12.140 00:03:12.150 heating side of the system is going to
00:03:15.630 00:03:15.640 just sit there and it's possible that
00:03:18.530 00:03:18.540 microbes could grow in there because the
00:03:20.670 00:03:20.680 water is not circulating it's sitting
00:03:22.200 00:03:22.210 there for months on end and some
00:03:24.750 00:03:24.760 jurisdictions do not allow that so there
00:03:28.290 00:03:28.300 are ways around the problem and that's
00:03:31.740 00:03:31.750 what I want to show you here one way
00:03:35.490 00:03:35.500 around the stagnation problem is to wire
00:03:38.400 00:03:38.410 in a timer like you see here now this
00:03:43.260 00:03:43.270 will activate the circulator pump
00:03:46.040 00:03:46.050 whether heat is called for or not for
00:03:49.280 00:03:49.290 about 10 minutes each day and that
00:03:52.620 00:03:52.630 serves to to move the water through the
00:03:57.240 00:03:57.250 hydronic system long before it would
00:04:00.120 00:04:00.130 ever get stagnant so in the summer when
00:04:02.850 00:04:02.860 things aren't working you're still gonna
00:04:04.110 00:04:04.120 have that circulator pump kick in and
00:04:07.250 00:04:07.260 for about 10 minutes the water will
00:04:09.840 00:04:09.850 circulate through it's actually good for
00:04:11.790 00:04:11.800 the pump for it to run regularly like
00:04:14.130 00:04:14.140 that even in the off season and some
00:04:16.229 00:04:16.239 jurisdictions will say yes that's okay
00:04:19.710 00:04:19.720 and this simple system as I call it is
00:04:23.220 00:04:23.230 is what you can use in places like that
00:04:25.170 00:04:25.180 now a more complicated system that
00:04:29.190 00:04:29.200 eliminates the need for a timer and any
00:04:31.230 00:04:31.240 possibility of stagnant water is also a
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00:04:42.030 00:04:42.040 going to show you next the more
00:04:43.350 00:04:43.360 complicated heat exchanger system here's
00:04:47.040 00:04:47.050 the second system I call it the
00:04:48.450 00:04:48.460 exchanger system and you'll see it's got
00:04:51.360 00:04:51.370 the same tank style water heater but the
00:04:54.060 00:04:54.070 cold water Cimino's up a water supply
00:04:56.310 00:04:56.320 coming in the hot domestic supply coming
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00:05:01.590 00:05:01.600 the house the same expansion tank here
00:05:04.740 00:05:04.750 but the difference is what happens on
00:05:07.170 00:05:07.180 this side the hydronic heating water
00:05:10.100 00:05:10.110 never mixes with the water in the tank
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00:05:16.910 00:05:16.920 this heat exchanger here so what happens
00:05:21.660 00:05:21.670 when the thermostat calls for heat we're
00:05:25.830 00:05:25.840 here the thermostat triggers two pumps
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00:05:55.920 00:05:55.930 heat is radiated in the house back
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00:06:00.600 00:06:00.610 heat exchanger now a typical heat
00:06:03.960 00:06:03.970 exchanger like this a flat plate style
00:06:06.630 00:06:06.640 works really well three by eight inches
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00:06:12.630 00:06:12.640 I find that sufficient for most houses
00:06:16.050 00:06:16.060 where I live in fairly cold part of
00:06:19.020 00:06:19.030 Canada so the hot water from the tank
00:06:21.750 00:06:21.760 heats this side of the exchanger and the
00:06:24.470 00:06:24.480 water from the heating system picks up
00:06:27.450 00:06:27.460 that heat from the other side of the
00:06:29.850 00:06:29.860 heat exchanger
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00:06:32.610 00:06:32.620 the cooler water enters here and the
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00:06:44.580 00:06:44.590 that's the way you get the most heat
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00:06:50.310 00:06:50.320 would anybody want to do this well if if
00:06:53.310 00:06:53.320 you're not allowed to have domestic hot
00:06:56.430 00:06:56.440 water and heating water mix then this is
00:06:59.909 00:06:59.919 the system for you there's another
00:07:02.010 00:07:02.020 advantage too and it has to do with the
00:07:04.379 00:07:04.389 operating pressure of the heating system
00:07:06.629 00:07:06.639 now typically the the optimal pressure
00:07:09.990 00:07:10.000 is anywhere from 15 to 30 psi so that's
00:07:16.219 00:07:16.229 pressure of the hydraulic system and
00:07:19.680 00:07:19.690 that's measured with a gauge here and
00:07:21.960 00:07:21.970 you can monitor that if you have a
00:07:24.090 00:07:24.100 system that's directly connected to the
00:07:26.909 00:07:26.919 water tank is in a simple system I
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00:07:31.730 00:07:31.740 anywhere from maybe 40 to 60 psi that's
00:07:36.659 00:07:36.669 you know you know typical municipal
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00:07:41.070 00:07:41.080 higher than it should be for maximum
00:07:42.810 00:07:42.820 pump life and functioning yeah it's not
00:07:45.180 00:07:45.190 a big deal it's what I would consider a
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00:07:50.670 00:07:50.680 system but this is what this is what you
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00:08:01.620 00:08:01.630 a system like this with a tank style
00:08:03.150 00:08:03.160 water heater is such a good way to power
00:08:06.719 00:08:06.729 hydronic heating system how come
00:08:08.610 00:08:08.620 everyone doesn't use it why are there
00:08:10.409 00:08:10.419 such a thing as boilers instead of hot
00:08:12.719 00:08:12.729 water tanks well first of all the tank
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00:08:17.820 00:08:17.830 it needs to have enough heat output the
00:08:20.070 00:08:20.080 tank I've installed at my own place has
00:08:21.870 00:08:21.880 a hundred and fifty thousand BTU per
00:08:23.700 00:08:23.710 hour input so that's plenty for heating
00:08:28.440 00:08:28.450 needs as well as domestic hot water most
00:08:31.379 00:08:31.389 standard tank style water heaters won't
00:08:34.709 00:08:34.719 produce that much and depending on where
00:08:37.079 00:08:37.089 you live you can Emma size of your house
00:08:38.909 00:08:38.919 and how well it's insulated you can get
00:08:40.469 00:08:40.479 away with less than that but the heater
00:08:44.190 00:08:44.200 also has two
00:08:45.260 00:08:45.270 be able to put out heat more
00:08:49.130 00:08:49.140 consistently it's going to have a far
00:08:51.290 00:08:51.300 shorter rest period when it's used as a
00:08:54.290 00:08:54.300 as a space heating engine like this is
00:08:57.500 00:08:57.510 here so you need to have a water heater
00:08:59.930 00:08:59.940 that's up to the job and the
00:09:01.070 00:09:01.080 manufacturer can tell you that I mean
00:09:02.600 00:09:02.610 some companies will not want their tank
00:09:04.520 00:09:04.530 style heaters for this application and
00:09:07.060 00:09:07.070 others will the unit that I'm using is
00:09:10.760 00:09:10.770 called the Polaris and it's made by a
00:09:15.640 00:09:15.650 North American company called AO Smith
00:09:18.560 00:09:18.570 and they specifically build this tank
00:09:21.080 00:09:21.090 style water heater for this application
00:09:23.390 00:09:23.400 that's one reason they put on two pairs
00:09:26.300 00:09:26.310 of taps here we have the the cold and
00:09:30.500 00:09:30.510 the hot for your domestic do domestic
00:09:32.990 00:09:33.000 side and then they return and the
00:09:36.290 00:09:36.300 outflow here on the side of the tank for
00:09:39.350 00:09:39.360 your hydronic heating system now another
00:09:44.240 00:09:44.250 reason you'd want to use a tank style
00:09:45.710 00:09:45.720 heater is because it's just simpler
00:09:47.270 00:09:47.280 you've got one appliance and it'll serve
00:09:51.020 00:09:51.030 you all year round
00:09:52.130 00:09:52.140 for domestic hot water tapping in as
00:09:54.830 00:09:54.840 needed during the heating season for
00:09:58.100 00:09:58.110 heating so it's it's a simpler system
00:10:00.650 00:10:00.660 and if you go with a simple installation
00:10:03.230 00:10:03.240 and you eliminate the need for a heat
00:10:06.590 00:10:06.600 exchanger maintenance is also lower too
00:10:09.410 00:10:09.420 because with any kind of a boiler you've
00:10:11.690 00:10:11.700 got a built-in heat exchanger of one
00:10:13.670 00:10:13.680 sort or another and that heat exchanger
00:10:15.820 00:10:15.830 will form scale and things on the
00:10:19.550 00:10:19.560 domestic side of the system so you'll
00:10:21.500 00:10:21.510 have to flush some vinegar through that
00:10:23.870 00:10:23.880 heat exchanger every so often maybe
00:10:27.500 00:10:27.510 every six months or a year or two years
00:10:29.300 00:10:29.310 depending on the hardness of the water
00:10:30.650 00:10:30.660 you can sidestep that maintenance with a
00:10:33.590 00:10:33.600 tank style heater the only maintenance
00:10:35.270 00:10:35.280 that a tank style heater requires is to
00:10:38.510 00:10:38.520 flush any sediment out from the bottom
00:10:41.450 00:10:41.460 of the tank which is quite an easy thing
00:10:43.190 00:10:43.200 you flip a valve after you've hooked up
00:10:45.410 00:10:45.420 a hose to the tank and the sediment
00:10:46.880 00:10:46.890 flushes out now if you do have a
00:10:48.980 00:10:48.990 separate heat exchanger like this you
00:10:52.220 00:10:52.230 are going to have to do the vinegar
00:10:53.510 00:10:53.520 treatment and that's why if I've I've
00:10:54.830 00:10:54.840 installed these these flush valves here
00:10:57.590 00:10:57.600 that's something
00:10:58.150 00:10:58.160 you're gonna want to do so you can shut
00:10:59.439 00:10:59.449 off the flow of valve open up these
00:11:03.550 00:11:03.560 ports here and you can flush some
00:11:08.860 00:11:08.870 vinegars through there with a pump
00:11:10.439 00:11:10.449 usually that only has to happen on the
00:11:12.699 00:11:12.709 domestic side of the system do not the
00:11:15.280 00:11:15.290 hydronic side which doesn't build up
00:11:17.319 00:11:17.329 minerals the same way but as I said you
00:11:20.889 00:11:20.899 can completely eliminate this altogether
00:11:22.660 00:11:22.670 if you go with a simpler non exchanger
00:11:26.309 00:11:26.319 installation so just to recap some of
00:11:30.220 00:11:30.230 the reasons why you'd want to use a tank
00:11:32.410 00:11:32.420 style heater first of all they're simple
00:11:37.199 00:11:37.209 it's it's a technology that's been
00:11:40.449 00:11:40.459 around a long time it's a simple concept
00:11:43.929 00:11:43.939 and it works well another thing is
00:11:48.119 00:11:48.129 versatility any tank style heater is
00:11:54.970 00:11:54.980 going to do a good job for you both
00:11:57.280 00:11:57.290 space heating and for domestic hot water
00:12:01.110 00:12:01.120 it's efficient to the Polaris unit that
00:12:08.050 00:12:08.060 I've installed has a 95% efficiency for
00:12:13.179 00:12:13.189 both legs both the space heating and
00:12:15.100 00:12:15.110 domestic hot water and in some
00:12:18.090 00:12:18.100 applications it's an especially low
00:12:21.129 00:12:21.139 maintenance option as well so there you
00:12:27.699 00:12:27.709 have it
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