Ideal sump replacement. HeatingGeeks. How to repair boilers

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all right so today I've got a work on
00:00:06.620 00:00:06.630 this ideologic heat 24 they say he only
00:00:10.280 00:00:10.290 boiler and the sump is failed which is a
00:00:12.980 00:00:12.990 regular thing on these not too regular
00:00:15.200 00:00:15.210 but it does happen and I'm going to show
00:00:17.030 00:00:17.040 you how to do it if you read the book
00:00:18.560 00:00:18.570 for these it tells you to remove the
00:00:20.960 00:00:20.970 main heat exchanger and I'm gonna show
00:00:24.380 00:00:24.390 you a way that hopefully you don't need
00:00:25.819 00:00:25.829 to do that so keep watching the sound on
00:00:28.999 00:00:29.009 this you're gonna find most of after
00:00:31.010 00:00:31.020 voiceover because although the customer
00:00:33.049 00:00:33.059 was nice enough to let me film he was
00:00:35.540 00:00:35.550 making some quite important phone calls
00:00:37.400 00:00:37.410 in the background so alright keep
00:00:40.010 00:00:40.020 watching ok so let's get into this just
00:00:44.300 00:00:44.310 undo the two screws on the bottom here
00:00:46.460 00:00:46.470 to get into the boiler and pull the two
00:00:49.280 00:00:49.290 metal Clips down that gives you access
00:00:52.730 00:00:52.740 to inside the appliance and I'm sure I
00:00:56.390 00:00:56.400 film in here so give give for your
00:00:57.950 00:00:57.960 clothes off what the actual issue is so
00:01:00.350 00:01:00.360 I'll skip to that now okay so isolate
00:01:03.950 00:01:03.960 the gas powers already isolates this
00:01:05.899 00:01:05.909 appliance to get that down you push that
00:01:08.120 00:01:08.130 button there and you can pull the front
00:01:09.560 00:01:09.570 down so I'm gonna show you where the
00:01:14.000 00:01:14.010 actual defect is first for them to do
00:01:15.860 00:01:15.870 those just take this little where this
00:01:18.320 00:01:18.330 little rubber connection between the
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00:01:23.690 00:01:23.700 this which I'll show you in just a
00:01:25.880 00:01:25.890 second once I've made access so first of
00:01:30.320 00:01:30.330 all remove these two screws this weather
00:01:32.510 00:01:32.520 for is it lies behind this cover and
00:01:34.700 00:01:34.710 nine times out of ten Engineers will
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00:01:39.080 00:01:39.090 leak from this cover so if you look to
00:01:41.030 00:01:41.040 the just above this right-hand screw is
00:01:43.550 00:01:43.560 you can see the white staining on the
00:01:45.080 00:01:45.090 sump can you see that there what it is
00:01:49.429 00:01:49.439 there's a slight crack behind this this
00:01:52.100 00:01:52.110 little cover piece and it shows itself
00:01:55.550 00:01:55.560 by leaking usually down the right or
00:01:58.550 00:01:58.560 left-hand side of this and it's hairline
00:02:02.630 00:02:02.640 crack you can't see it leaks very very
00:02:04.730 00:02:04.740 slowly and the only leaks once there you
00:02:08.149 00:02:08.159 from cold once the heating when to turn
00:02:10.789 00:02:10.799 the heating on so if you look here I'll
00:02:13.129 00:02:13.139 get it in the light in a sec there's
00:02:14.539 00:02:14.549 just a very slight hairline crack
00:02:17.059 00:02:17.069 so they go you see that in that light
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00:02:23.539 00:02:23.549 where the water comes from rock so it
00:02:25.069 00:02:25.079 takes a long time to to appear and can
00:02:28.280 00:02:28.290 be quite difficult to to trace so here I
00:02:31.550 00:02:31.560 own disconnects in the gas valve and now
00:02:35.720 00:02:35.730 with that with them two screws removed
00:02:37.580 00:02:37.590 in that cover plate you can remove this
00:02:39.050 00:02:39.060 here which is like the flue collector
00:02:40.640 00:02:40.650 just takes the post combustion from the
00:02:43.580 00:02:43.590 sump up to the flue outlet now I'm doing
00:02:46.640 00:02:46.650 the lower nut on the gas pipe once this
00:02:50.809 00:02:50.819 is undone I undo the one on the
00:02:52.819 00:02:52.829 underside of the gas valve as well
00:02:55.569 00:02:55.579 allows you to take that pipe out because
00:02:58.819 00:02:58.829 we're going to need to disconnect
00:02:59.929 00:02:59.939 everything that's joined to the top to
00:03:03.559 00:03:03.569 the bottom of this boiler so we're going
00:03:05.449 00:03:05.459 to take out this gas valve complete
00:03:08.420 00:03:08.430 we're gonna also take out the bracket
00:03:10.190 00:03:10.200 that it's mounted on that the spot
00:03:12.140 00:03:12.150 generator is also mounted on now to get
00:03:16.369 00:03:16.379 rid of the bracket you have to remove
00:03:18.080 00:03:18.090 the gas valve completely you don't
00:03:19.759 00:03:19.769 indicate it's not completely on fire I
00:03:21.530 00:03:21.540 always do find it be so once that's out
00:03:26.469 00:03:26.479 there just pull the gas valve out now we
00:03:30.170 00:03:30.180 undo the screws that hold this bracket
00:03:32.119 00:03:32.129 to the heat exchanger not forgetting the
00:03:34.460 00:03:34.470 cables so we've got an earth cable and a
00:03:39.710 00:03:39.720 HT leads disconnect there and then we've
00:03:41.780 00:03:41.790 got the the live neutral nerf that power
00:03:45.469 00:03:45.479 this to disconnect a bit lower down so I
00:03:49.729 00:03:49.739 move off a bit difficult pull there
00:03:52.909 00:03:52.919 that's the live don't run earth pulled
00:03:54.530 00:03:54.540 off then we undo these screws and we can
00:03:56.210 00:03:56.220 remove this bracket completely out of
00:03:57.649 00:03:57.659 the way now here I've shown doing this
00:03:59.180 00:03:59.190 one-handed because I'm trying to hold my
00:04:02.599 00:04:02.609 phone as a camera on a GoPro cultural
00:04:06.319 00:04:06.329 background so it's gonna fall off now
00:04:08.149 00:04:08.159 and this is how I'm actually doing
00:04:10.129 00:04:10.139 edging step on them you know I can't use
00:04:12.409 00:04:12.419 two hands
00:04:12.979 00:04:12.989 I don't filming this stuff for you guys
00:04:16.089 00:04:16.099 so that's how I'll just take out any
00:04:18.499 00:04:18.509 screws or drops and everything else no
00:04:20.060 00:04:20.070 time to get the trap out these can be a
00:04:21.560 00:04:21.570 bit fiddly you twist them they twist
00:04:24.260 00:04:24.270 either about twenty or thirty degrees
00:04:26.440 00:04:26.450 and then you kind of have to pull them
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00:04:30.590 00:04:30.600 if you watch I'll do that there you go
00:04:32.720 00:04:32.730 comes out Cecil pull it up and push it
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00:04:39.230 00:04:39.240 you this is the wall that's in this case
00:04:42.070 00:04:42.080 now we need to undo this screw back here
00:04:45.010 00:04:45.020 there are some of these for some reason
00:04:47.480 00:04:47.490 I'll sure have two of these screws but
00:04:49.100 00:04:49.110 it's been a long time since I've done
00:04:50.720 00:04:50.730 one but this one's only got one you need
00:04:52.910 00:04:52.920 to loosen this girl for nothing you can
00:04:54.320 00:04:54.330 move the heat exchanger like that you
00:04:55.700 00:04:55.710 can see that heat exchanger pull it away
00:04:57.410 00:04:57.420 from the back of the boiler now you
00:04:59.990 00:05:00.000 break these not break them you should
00:05:01.580 00:05:01.590 Bend these lugs back here to separate
00:05:04.280 00:05:04.290 the front of the sump from the heat
00:05:06.020 00:05:06.030 exchanger this is quite easy once you've
00:05:09.710 00:05:09.720 done all three as I have there now you
00:05:12.620 00:05:12.630 see this the front of this moves quite
00:05:15.110 00:05:15.120 easily this way you need to use a slight
00:05:17.750 00:05:17.760 bit of brute force and often wedging
00:05:19.640 00:05:19.650 something behind the back of the heat
00:05:21.050 00:05:21.060 exchanger to hold it off the back of the
00:05:23.570 00:05:23.580 boiler gives you a little bit of extra
00:05:25.070 00:05:25.080 room for the back brackets so you force
00:05:27.650 00:05:27.660 this down I have a screwdriver behind it
00:05:32.390 00:05:32.400 here and they go with little bit of
00:05:35.180 00:05:35.190 brute force I forced it down and one of
00:05:36.800 00:05:36.810 the one of the lugs on the back the
00:05:39.020 00:05:39.030 plastic lugs that is on the something
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00:05:41.870 00:05:41.880 there's the dipper in the bottom the
00:05:43.820 00:05:43.830 sump and there's the lug that broke I
00:05:46.300 00:05:46.310 just collect that a bahtman a boiler and
00:05:48.560 00:05:48.570 watch the spider run away will not pick
00:05:50.270 00:05:50.280 it up now give it a sec okay well it's
00:05:54.230 00:05:54.240 running away poor little fella so now
00:05:58.160 00:05:58.170 that's now that's the new one ready to
00:06:01.190 00:06:01.200 go in and as you see we've still got a
00:06:04.310 00:06:04.320 live boy in are full of water we haven't
00:06:06.380 00:06:06.390 drained down we haven't had to do
00:06:07.730 00:06:07.740 anything so give it all to clean up with
00:06:10.760 00:06:10.770 more pink cloth as usual and I'm just
00:06:15.980 00:06:15.990 gonna clean the underside of the heat
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00:06:19.370 00:06:19.380 debris there that's collected on the
00:06:21.500 00:06:21.510 seals and then you'll see me film it now
00:06:25.370 00:06:25.380 the important bit this job it's not
00:06:26.840 00:06:26.850 getting the sump out it's actually
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00:06:30.650 00:06:30.660 knowing that it's safe I think that's
00:06:32.660 00:06:32.670 probably why ideal might recommend you
00:06:34.280 00:06:34.290 take the heat exchanger out because it's
00:06:36.380 00:06:36.390 much easier to tell if you've done that
00:06:38.680 00:06:38.690 when heat exchangers out so here I'll
00:06:42.110 00:06:42.120 pop in the three clips on set on the
00:06:44.290 00:06:44.300 first so I'm not worried about the front
00:06:46.540 00:06:46.550 going on I just want to try and hear
00:06:47.890 00:06:47.900 three clicks as the bat goes on once I
00:06:51.969 00:06:51.979 think I've done that this is how check
00:06:56.020 00:06:56.030 it now this is the important bit this is
00:06:57.610 00:06:57.620 the bit that is key
00:07:00.839 00:07:00.849 I'll get my phone round the back there
00:07:03.100 00:07:03.110 you can see two clips there so there's
00:07:05.200 00:07:05.210 the first one that one's on and if you
00:07:09.790 00:07:09.800 look in the SEC you'll see the second
00:07:11.290 00:07:11.300 one there's the second one back there
00:07:12.939 00:07:12.949 and that one's on and the last one you
00:07:15.909 00:07:15.919 have to film from the other side and
00:07:17.379 00:07:17.389 heat exchanger which I'll do now and
00:07:23.339 00:07:23.349 there you go that one is on as well so I
00:07:26.050 00:07:26.060 know all the clips that hold the sump on
00:07:28.180 00:07:28.190 so that heat exchanger are on on the
00:07:29.529 00:07:29.539 back so now I'll just re-watch the video
00:07:33.520 00:07:33.530 on my phone and I'm sure that it's
00:07:35.260 00:07:35.270 fitted correctly on the back now which
00:07:37.510 00:07:37.520 is where I think I think this is where
00:07:39.309 00:07:39.319 the problem lies ideal don't think we're
00:07:41.020 00:07:41.030 capable of being able to do that so now
00:07:44.980 00:07:44.990 it's just a case of forcing it on the
00:07:46.510 00:07:46.520 front this can be this requires a bit of
00:07:49.089 00:07:49.099 brute force again you have to you know
00:07:50.980 00:07:50.990 give it a good yank and you'll get it on
00:07:53.999 00:07:54.009 and then once again once that's all and
00:07:56.830 00:07:56.840 you think it's on you need to refill MIT
00:08:00.180 00:08:00.190 with your with your phone you need to go
00:08:03.249 00:08:03.259 back round it all check all the clips
00:08:05.769 00:08:05.779 are on again and once you're happy with
00:08:08.050 00:08:08.060 that it's time to start reassembling the
00:08:09.790 00:08:09.800 boiler the key point of all this is you
00:08:13.420 00:08:13.430 need to check all around this with your
00:08:15.040 00:08:15.050 analyzer and you also need to do your
00:08:18.100 00:08:18.110 combustion check so that with the case
00:08:19.869 00:08:19.879 on fully and sealed so you know you
00:08:24.129 00:08:24.139 haven't got any combust no POC leaks so
00:08:26.439 00:08:26.449 you've got no vitiation and you've got
00:08:29.170 00:08:29.180 complete combustion so obviously that
00:08:31.079 00:08:31.089 just getting all this back together for
00:08:33.040 00:08:33.050 now greasing up all the seals as you can
00:08:37.060 00:08:37.070 save it if it goes well this job is
00:08:39.130 00:08:39.140 actually very quick I
00:08:42.490 00:08:42.500 I'm not sure if I've ever done this on
00:08:44.500 00:08:44.510 the combi so the combi might be a lot
00:08:46.449 00:08:46.459 more hassle because the pipes obviously
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00:08:51.430 00:08:51.440 will be that much more hair so I may
00:08:53.139 00:08:53.149 have done it I just can't remember and
00:08:54.790 00:08:54.800 obviously if I ever do do it I will
00:08:57.670 00:08:57.680 film it so okay so basically reassembly
00:09:08.350 00:09:08.360 is the exact reverse of disassembly so
00:09:15.160 00:09:15.170 you need to get everything back together
00:09:17.260 00:09:17.270 you see I'm just sped everything up here
00:09:20.460 00:09:20.470 obviously the key points I've got you
00:09:24.130 00:09:24.140 know use leak detection fluid on all
00:09:26.829 00:09:26.839 your joint you disturb plus I always go
00:09:28.780 00:09:28.790 to the joints next to them as well
00:09:30.460 00:09:30.470 never never just do the what like for
00:09:32.920 00:09:32.930 instance this knot here I've only done
00:09:34.180 00:09:34.190 the top knot but there's no way I
00:09:35.710 00:09:35.720 wouldn't check that I don't off the gas
00:09:37.840 00:09:37.850 valve because all the prayin and whatnot
00:09:40.840 00:09:40.850 you could have moved that pipe so I'll
00:09:44.650 00:09:44.660 get this bottom pipe in here yeah it all
00:09:48.190 00:09:48.200 tightened up then I'll turn the gas on
00:09:51.040 00:09:51.050 this meal it detects in the pipe so that
00:09:56.230 00:09:56.240 was all fine I've said the outlet of the
00:10:00.490 00:10:00.500 gas valve I do both of them not seem to
00:10:02.920 00:10:02.930 only disturbed one I do both them nuts
00:10:05.500 00:10:05.510 with the boiler running make sure that
00:10:07.300 00:10:07.310 they are okay and you always check any
00:10:10.960 00:10:10.970 valve you've disturbed because in case a
00:10:13.540 00:10:13.550 leak at the spindle so just a trap back
00:10:17.590 00:10:17.600 in and I'll put that little rubber roll
00:10:19.990 00:10:20.000 we're back on the top connect the
00:10:21.579 00:10:21.589 electrics to the to the gas valve here
00:10:24.400 00:10:24.410 and now we're ready to go
00:10:35.850 00:10:35.860 okay so this is the important bit of
00:10:39.250 00:10:39.260 this job is proving the safety so get
00:10:43.720 00:10:43.730 the boiler all set up the customers
00:10:45.040 00:10:45.050 putting on heating and water get my own
00:10:48.310 00:10:48.320 analyzers sorted basically I do my
00:10:53.770 00:10:53.780 combustion analysis but I do it more
00:10:55.450 00:10:55.460 than once here so I basically get the
00:10:58.450 00:10:58.460 boiler running case off his the readings
00:11:01.030 00:11:01.040 I get I'm now with the boiler running
00:11:04.720 00:11:04.730 I'm now gonna leak detect all them
00:11:06.160 00:11:06.170 joints on the outlet at the gas valve
00:11:08.920 00:11:08.930 now I couldn't do when it was when only
00:11:13.330 00:11:13.340 at the gas on to the inlet the the other
00:11:18.730 00:11:18.740 important thing with this is you must
00:11:20.380 00:11:20.390 now do a combustion and assist with the
00:11:22.570 00:11:22.580 case on because if you have any leak in
00:11:25.840 00:11:25.850 that some even a tiny leak it will it
00:11:29.410 00:11:29.420 will vitiated and it will cause
00:11:30.880 00:11:30.890 extremely high levels of her of CO so as
00:11:34.720 00:11:34.730 you can see my analyzers still on and
00:11:36.520 00:11:36.530 running I'm I'm getting all the screws
00:11:40.000 00:11:40.010 in getting the case back on this videos
00:11:43.480 00:11:43.490 obviously I didn't you can see this is a
00:11:44.920 00:11:44.930 fast forwarded here or sped up but the
00:11:50.380 00:11:50.390 analyzer was probably on this from maybe
00:11:52.900 00:11:52.910 20 minutes in total
00:11:54.450 00:11:54.460 sitting there running batch was going
00:11:56.710 00:11:56.720 flat brilliant
00:11:58.740 00:11:58.750 as UTC at 19 millibar in there just
00:12:02.970 00:12:02.980 under and the combustion ratios are
00:12:05.250 00:12:05.260 perfectly safe but you have to be
00:12:07.710 00:12:07.720 extremely sure on what you're doing with
00:12:09.450 00:12:09.460 these
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