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Ideal sump replacement. HeatingGeeks. How to repair boilers
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00:00:03.740 all right so today I've got a work on 00:00:06.62000:00:06.630 this ideologic heat 24 they say he only 00:00:10.28000:00:10.290 boiler and the sump is failed which is a 00:00:12.98000:00:12.990 regular thing on these not too regular 00:00:15.20000:00:15.210 but it does happen and I'm going to show 00:00:17.03000:00:17.040 you how to do it if you read the book 00:00:18.56000:00:18.570 for these it tells you to remove the 00:00:20.96000:00:20.970 main heat exchanger and I'm gonna show 00:00:24.38000:00:24.390 you a way that hopefully you don't need 00:00:25.81900:00:25.829 to do that so keep watching the sound on 00:00:28.99900:00:29.009 this you're gonna find most of after 00:00:31.01000:00:31.020 voiceover because although the customer 00:00:33.04900:00:33.059 was nice enough to let me film he was 00:00:35.54000:00:35.550 making some quite important phone calls 00:00:37.40000:00:37.410 in the background so alright keep 00:00:40.01000:00:40.020 watching ok so let's get into this just 00:00:44.30000:00:44.310 undo the two screws on the bottom here 00:00:46.46000:00:46.470 to get into the boiler and pull the two 00:00:49.28000:00:49.290 metal Clips down that gives you access 00:00:52.73000:00:52.740 to inside the appliance and I'm sure I 00:00:56.39000:00:56.400 film in here so give give for your 00:00:57.95000:00:57.960 clothes off what the actual issue is so 00:01:00.35000:01:00.360 I'll skip to that now okay so isolate 00:01:03.95000:01:03.960 the gas powers already isolates this 00:01:05.89900:01:05.909 appliance to get that down you push that 00:01:08.12000:01:08.130 button there and you can pull the front 00:01:09.56000:01:09.570 down so I'm gonna show you where the 00:01:14.00000:01:14.010 actual defect is first for them to do 00:01:15.86000:01:15.870 those just take this little where this 00:01:18.32000:01:18.330 little rubber connection between the 00:01:20.66000:01:20.670 trap and the sump off the fault is above 00:01:23.69000:01:23.700 this which I'll show you in just a 00:01:25.88000:01:25.890 second once I've made access so first of 00:01:30.32000:01:30.330 all remove these two screws this weather 00:01:32.51000:01:32.520 for is it lies behind this cover and 00:01:34.70000:01:34.710 nine times out of ten Engineers will 00:01:36.53000:01:36.540 learn incorrectly diagnosed it's been a 00:01:39.08000:01:39.090 leak from this cover so if you look to 00:01:41.03000:01:41.040 the just above this right-hand screw is 00:01:43.55000:01:43.560 you can see the white staining on the 00:01:45.08000:01:45.090 sump can you see that there what it is 00:01:49.42900:01:49.439 there's a slight crack behind this this 00:01:52.10000:01:52.110 little cover piece and it shows itself 00:01:55.55000:01:55.560 by leaking usually down the right or 00:01:58.55000:01:58.560 left-hand side of this and it's hairline 00:02:02.63000:02:02.640 crack you can't see it leaks very very 00:02:04.73000:02:04.740 slowly and the only leaks once there you 00:02:08.14900:02:08.159 from cold once the heating when to turn 00:02:10.78900:02:10.799 the heating on so if you look here I'll 00:02:13.12900:02:13.139 get it in the light in a sec there's 00:02:14.53900:02:14.549 just a very slight hairline crack 00:02:17.05900:02:17.069 so they go you see that in that light 00:02:19.85000:02:19.860 patch that's the crack and that's that's 00:02:23.53900:02:23.549 where the water comes from rock so it 00:02:25.06900:02:25.079 takes a long time to to appear and can 00:02:28.28000:02:28.290 be quite difficult to to trace so here I 00:02:31.55000:02:31.560 own disconnects in the gas valve and now 00:02:35.72000:02:35.730 with that with them two screws removed 00:02:37.58000:02:37.590 in that cover plate you can remove this 00:02:39.05000:02:39.060 here which is like the flue collector 00:02:40.64000:02:40.650 just takes the post combustion from the 00:02:43.58000:02:43.590 sump up to the flue outlet now I'm doing 00:02:46.64000:02:46.650 the lower nut on the gas pipe once this 00:02:50.80900:02:50.819 is undone I undo the one on the 00:02:52.81900:02:52.829 underside of the gas valve as well 00:02:55.56900:02:55.579 allows you to take that pipe out because 00:02:58.81900:02:58.829 we're going to need to disconnect 00:02:59.92900:02:59.939 everything that's joined to the top to 00:03:03.55900:03:03.569 the bottom of this boiler so we're going 00:03:05.44900:03:05.459 to take out this gas valve complete 00:03:08.42000:03:08.430 we're gonna also take out the bracket 00:03:10.19000:03:10.200 that it's mounted on that the spot 00:03:12.14000:03:12.150 generator is also mounted on now to get 00:03:16.36900:03:16.379 rid of the bracket you have to remove 00:03:18.08000:03:18.090 the gas valve completely you don't 00:03:19.75900:03:19.769 indicate it's not completely on fire I 00:03:21.53000:03:21.540 always do find it be so once that's out 00:03:26.46900:03:26.479 there just pull the gas valve out now we 00:03:30.17000:03:30.180 undo the screws that hold this bracket 00:03:32.11900:03:32.129 to the heat exchanger not forgetting the 00:03:34.46000:03:34.470 cables so we've got an earth cable and a 00:03:39.71000:03:39.720 HT leads disconnect there and then we've 00:03:41.78000:03:41.790 got the the live neutral nerf that power 00:03:45.46900:03:45.479 this to disconnect a bit lower down so I 00:03:49.72900:03:49.739 move off a bit difficult pull there 00:03:52.90900:03:52.919 that's the live don't run earth pulled 00:03:54.53000:03:54.540 off then we undo these screws and we can 00:03:56.21000:03:56.220 remove this bracket completely out of 00:03:57.64900:03:57.659 the way now here I've shown doing this 00:03:59.18000:03:59.190 one-handed because I'm trying to hold my 00:04:02.59900:04:02.609 phone as a camera on a GoPro cultural 00:04:06.31900:04:06.329 background so it's gonna fall off now 00:04:08.14900:04:08.159 and this is how I'm actually doing 00:04:10.12900:04:10.139 edging step on them you know I can't use 00:04:12.40900:04:12.419 two hands 00:04:12.97900:04:12.989 I don't filming this stuff for you guys 00:04:16.08900:04:16.099 so that's how I'll just take out any 00:04:18.49900:04:18.509 screws or drops and everything else no 00:04:20.06000:04:20.070 time to get the trap out these can be a 00:04:21.56000:04:21.570 bit fiddly you twist them they twist 00:04:24.26000:04:24.270 either about twenty or thirty degrees 00:04:26.44000:04:26.450 and then you kind of have to pull them 00:04:29.33000:04:29.340 up and off too 00:04:30.59000:04:30.600 if you watch I'll do that there you go 00:04:32.72000:04:32.730 comes out Cecil pull it up and push it 00:04:36.08000:04:36.090 towards the right I just wanted to show 00:04:39.23000:04:39.240 you this is the wall that's in this case 00:04:42.07000:04:42.080 now we need to undo this screw back here 00:04:45.01000:04:45.020 there are some of these for some reason 00:04:47.48000:04:47.490 I'll sure have two of these screws but 00:04:49.10000:04:49.110 it's been a long time since I've done 00:04:50.72000:04:50.730 one but this one's only got one you need 00:04:52.91000:04:52.920 to loosen this girl for nothing you can 00:04:54.32000:04:54.330 move the heat exchanger like that you 00:04:55.70000:04:55.710 can see that heat exchanger pull it away 00:04:57.41000:04:57.420 from the back of the boiler now you 00:04:59.99000:05:00.000 break these not break them you should 00:05:01.58000:05:01.590 Bend these lugs back here to separate 00:05:04.28000:05:04.290 the front of the sump from the heat 00:05:06.02000:05:06.030 exchanger this is quite easy once you've 00:05:09.71000:05:09.720 done all three as I have there now you 00:05:12.62000:05:12.630 see this the front of this moves quite 00:05:15.11000:05:15.120 easily this way you need to use a slight 00:05:17.75000:05:17.760 bit of brute force and often wedging 00:05:19.64000:05:19.650 something behind the back of the heat 00:05:21.05000:05:21.060 exchanger to hold it off the back of the 00:05:23.57000:05:23.580 boiler gives you a little bit of extra 00:05:25.07000:05:25.080 room for the back brackets so you force 00:05:27.65000:05:27.660 this down I have a screwdriver behind it 00:05:32.39000:05:32.400 here and they go with little bit of 00:05:35.18000:05:35.190 brute force I forced it down and one of 00:05:36.80000:05:36.810 the one of the lugs on the back the 00:05:39.02000:05:39.030 plastic lugs that is on the something 00:05:40.58000:05:40.590 we're changing broke off 00:05:41.87000:05:41.880 there's the dipper in the bottom the 00:05:43.82000:05:43.830 sump and there's the lug that broke I 00:05:46.30000:05:46.310 just collect that a bahtman a boiler and 00:05:48.56000:05:48.570 watch the spider run away will not pick 00:05:50.27000:05:50.280 it up now give it a sec okay well it's 00:05:54.23000:05:54.240 running away poor little fella so now 00:05:58.16000:05:58.170 that's now that's the new one ready to 00:06:01.19000:06:01.200 go in and as you see we've still got a 00:06:04.31000:06:04.320 live boy in are full of water we haven't 00:06:06.38000:06:06.390 drained down we haven't had to do 00:06:07.73000:06:07.740 anything so give it all to clean up with 00:06:10.76000:06:10.770 more pink cloth as usual and I'm just 00:06:15.98000:06:15.990 gonna clean the underside of the heat 00:06:17.81000:06:17.820 exchanger as well in case there's any 00:06:19.37000:06:19.380 debris there that's collected on the 00:06:21.50000:06:21.510 seals and then you'll see me film it now 00:06:25.37000:06:25.380 the important bit this job it's not 00:06:26.84000:06:26.850 getting the sump out it's actually 00:06:28.28000:06:28.290 getting the new sump on and sealed and 00:06:30.65000:06:30.660 knowing that it's safe I think that's 00:06:32.66000:06:32.670 probably why ideal might recommend you 00:06:34.28000:06:34.290 take the heat exchanger out because it's 00:06:36.38000:06:36.390 much easier to tell if you've done that 00:06:38.68000:06:38.690 when heat exchangers out so here I'll 00:06:42.11000:06:42.120 pop in the three clips on set on the 00:06:44.29000:06:44.300 first so I'm not worried about the front 00:06:46.54000:06:46.550 going on I just want to try and hear 00:06:47.89000:06:47.900 three clicks as the bat goes on once I 00:06:51.96900:06:51.979 think I've done that this is how check 00:06:56.02000:06:56.030 it now this is the important bit this is 00:06:57.61000:06:57.620 the bit that is key 00:07:00.83900:07:00.849 I'll get my phone round the back there 00:07:03.10000:07:03.110 you can see two clips there so there's 00:07:05.20000:07:05.210 the first one that one's on and if you 00:07:09.79000:07:09.800 look in the SEC you'll see the second 00:07:11.29000:07:11.300 one there's the second one back there 00:07:12.93900:07:12.949 and that one's on and the last one you 00:07:15.90900:07:15.919 have to film from the other side and 00:07:17.37900:07:17.389 heat exchanger which I'll do now and 00:07:23.33900:07:23.349 there you go that one is on as well so I 00:07:26.05000:07:26.060 know all the clips that hold the sump on 00:07:28.18000:07:28.190 so that heat exchanger are on on the 00:07:29.52900:07:29.539 back so now I'll just re-watch the video 00:07:33.52000:07:33.530 on my phone and I'm sure that it's 00:07:35.26000:07:35.270 fitted correctly on the back now which 00:07:37.51000:07:37.520 is where I think I think this is where 00:07:39.30900:07:39.319 the problem lies ideal don't think we're 00:07:41.02000:07:41.030 capable of being able to do that so now 00:07:44.98000:07:44.990 it's just a case of forcing it on the 00:07:46.51000:07:46.520 front this can be this requires a bit of 00:07:49.08900:07:49.099 brute force again you have to you know 00:07:50.98000:07:50.990 give it a good yank and you'll get it on 00:07:53.99900:07:54.009 and then once again once that's all and 00:07:56.83000:07:56.840 you think it's on you need to refill MIT 00:08:00.18000:08:00.190 with your with your phone you need to go 00:08:03.24900:08:03.259 back round it all check all the clips 00:08:05.76900:08:05.779 are on again and once you're happy with 00:08:08.05000:08:08.060 that it's time to start reassembling the 00:08:09.79000:08:09.800 boiler the key point of all this is you 00:08:13.42000:08:13.430 need to check all around this with your 00:08:15.04000:08:15.050 analyzer and you also need to do your 00:08:18.10000:08:18.110 combustion check so that with the case 00:08:19.86900:08:19.879 on fully and sealed so you know you 00:08:24.12900:08:24.139 haven't got any combust no POC leaks so 00:08:26.43900:08:26.449 you've got no vitiation and you've got 00:08:29.17000:08:29.180 complete combustion so obviously that 00:08:31.07900:08:31.089 just getting all this back together for 00:08:33.04000:08:33.050 now greasing up all the seals as you can 00:08:37.06000:08:37.070 save it if it goes well this job is 00:08:39.13000:08:39.140 actually very quick I 00:08:42.49000:08:42.500 I'm not sure if I've ever done this on 00:08:44.50000:08:44.510 the combi so the combi might be a lot 00:08:46.44900:08:46.459 more hassle because the pipes obviously 00:08:49.84000:08:49.850 go down but I don't actually think it 00:08:51.43000:08:51.440 will be that much more hair so I may 00:08:53.13900:08:53.149 have done it I just can't remember and 00:08:54.79000:08:54.800 obviously if I ever do do it I will 00:08:57.67000:08:57.680 film it so okay so basically reassembly 00:09:08.35000:09:08.360 is the exact reverse of disassembly so 00:09:15.16000:09:15.170 you need to get everything back together 00:09:17.26000:09:17.270 you see I'm just sped everything up here 00:09:20.46000:09:20.470 obviously the key points I've got you 00:09:24.13000:09:24.140 know use leak detection fluid on all 00:09:26.82900:09:26.839 your joint you disturb plus I always go 00:09:28.78000:09:28.790 to the joints next to them as well 00:09:30.46000:09:30.470 never never just do the what like for 00:09:32.92000:09:32.930 instance this knot here I've only done 00:09:34.18000:09:34.190 the top knot but there's no way I 00:09:35.71000:09:35.720 wouldn't check that I don't off the gas 00:09:37.84000:09:37.850 valve because all the prayin and whatnot 00:09:40.84000:09:40.850 you could have moved that pipe so I'll 00:09:44.65000:09:44.660 get this bottom pipe in here yeah it all 00:09:48.19000:09:48.200 tightened up then I'll turn the gas on 00:09:51.04000:09:51.050 this meal it detects in the pipe so that 00:09:56.23000:09:56.240 was all fine I've said the outlet of the 00:10:00.49000:10:00.500 gas valve I do both of them not seem to 00:10:02.92000:10:02.930 only disturbed one I do both them nuts 00:10:05.50000:10:05.510 with the boiler running make sure that 00:10:07.30000:10:07.310 they are okay and you always check any 00:10:10.96000:10:10.970 valve you've disturbed because in case a 00:10:13.54000:10:13.550 leak at the spindle so just a trap back 00:10:17.59000:10:17.600 in and I'll put that little rubber roll 00:10:19.99000:10:20.000 we're back on the top connect the 00:10:21.57900:10:21.589 electrics to the to the gas valve here 00:10:24.40000:10:24.410 and now we're ready to go 00:10:35.85000:10:35.860 okay so this is the important bit of 00:10:39.25000:10:39.260 this job is proving the safety so get 00:10:43.72000:10:43.730 the boiler all set up the customers 00:10:45.04000:10:45.050 putting on heating and water get my own 00:10:48.31000:10:48.320 analyzers sorted basically I do my 00:10:53.77000:10:53.780 combustion analysis but I do it more 00:10:55.45000:10:55.460 than once here so I basically get the 00:10:58.45000:10:58.460 boiler running case off his the readings 00:11:01.03000:11:01.040 I get I'm now with the boiler running 00:11:04.72000:11:04.730 I'm now gonna leak detect all them 00:11:06.16000:11:06.170 joints on the outlet at the gas valve 00:11:08.92000:11:08.930 now I couldn't do when it was when only 00:11:13.33000:11:13.340 at the gas on to the inlet the the other 00:11:18.73000:11:18.740 important thing with this is you must 00:11:20.38000:11:20.390 now do a combustion and assist with the 00:11:22.57000:11:22.580 case on because if you have any leak in 00:11:25.84000:11:25.850 that some even a tiny leak it will it 00:11:29.41000:11:29.420 will vitiated and it will cause 00:11:30.88000:11:30.890 extremely high levels of her of CO so as 00:11:34.72000:11:34.730 you can see my analyzers still on and 00:11:36.52000:11:36.530 running I'm I'm getting all the screws 00:11:40.00000:11:40.010 in getting the case back on this videos 00:11:43.48000:11:43.490 obviously I didn't you can see this is a 00:11:44.92000:11:44.930 fast forwarded here or sped up but the 00:11:50.38000:11:50.390 analyzer was probably on this from maybe 00:11:52.90000:11:52.910 20 minutes in total 00:11:54.45000:11:54.460 sitting there running batch was going 00:11:56.71000:11:56.720 flat brilliant 00:11:58.74000:11:58.750 as UTC at 19 millibar in there just 00:12:02.97000:12:02.980 under and the combustion ratios are 00:12:05.25000:12:05.260 perfectly safe but you have to be 00:12:07.71000:12:07.720 extremely sure on what you're doing with 00:12:09.45000:12:09.460 these
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