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Innovative Propane Technologies - Micro Combined Heat and Power (CHP)
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00:00:10.730 hi I'm rich Ben saga for the propane 00:00:12.86000:00:12.870 Education and Research Council we're 00:00:15.14000:00:15.150 traveling to Ocean Springs Mississippi 00:00:16.67000:00:16.680 and to New Milford Connecticut to take a 00:00:19.25000:00:19.260 closer look at an emerging technology 00:00:20.57000:00:20.580 for residential and light commercial 00:00:21.80000:00:21.810 buildings it's called micro combined 00:00:24.10900:00:24.119 heat and power or CHP also known as 00:00:26.72000:00:26.730 cogeneration CHP technology basically 00:00:29.33000:00:29.340 uses an internal combustion engine 00:00:30.65000:00:30.660 powered by propane or natural gas to 00:00:33.20000:00:33.210 generate thermal energy the thermal 00:00:34.91000:00:34.920 energy can be used for space heating 00:00:36.65000:00:36.660 water heating even to heat a pool or spa 00:00:38.90000:00:38.910 but while it's generating that energy 00:00:40.70000:00:40.710 it's also generating electricity which 00:00:42.92000:00:42.930 can be used to supplement or perhaps 00:00:44.42000:00:44.430 even offset the power coming from the 00:00:46.13000:00:46.140 Gripp CHP technology has been used for 00:00:48.13900:00:48.149 decades in industrial buildings like 00:00:49.94000:00:49.950 factories and in massive size equipment 00:00:52.45000:00:52.460 but some companies have recently come up 00:00:54.77000:00:54.780 with a way to scale the technology to a 00:00:56.38900:00:56.399 small footprint that can be used in 00:00:58.13000:00:58.140 homes and small businesses and that's 00:01:00.29000:01:00.300 where the term micro CHP comes from the 00:01:02.56900:01:02.579 guts of a micro CHP are pretty 00:01:04.13000:01:04.140 impressive especially when you consider 00:01:05.84000:01:05.850 its relatively small footprint roughly 9 00:01:08.30000:01:08.310 square feet the size of a typical 00:01:09.59000:01:09.600 air-conditioning unit or photocopier the 00:01:12.41000:01:12.420 primary components are liquid cooled 00:01:13.96900:01:13.979 engine a heat exchanger and a generator 00:01:16.10000:01:16.110 there's also a silencer that keeps the 00:01:18.38000:01:18.390 sound - about the same level as a 00:01:19.67000:01:19.680 refrigerator the rest is electrical and 00:01:21.74000:01:21.750 propane connections a fresh air intake 00:01:23.69000:01:23.700 and an exhaust vent the other main part 00:01:26.87000:01:26.880 of a micro CHP unit is the buffer tank 00:01:28.76000:01:28.770 which stores and recirculates water 00:01:30.77000:01:30.780 through the units heat exchanger and 00:01:32.30000:01:32.310 then transfers that heat to a variety of 00:01:34.34000:01:34.350 standard heating equipment such as a 00:01:35.96000:01:35.970 boiler or furnace we're here with Mike 00:01:39.20000:01:39.210 Monahan of Marathon engine systems which 00:01:41.35900:01:41.369 makes the Eco power micro CHP unit now 00:01:44.12000:01:44.130 Mike tell us step-by-step how this 00:01:47.21000:01:47.220 system works when the engine is running 00:01:49.46000:01:49.470 we're creating thermal energy we take 00:01:51.80000:01:51.810 that thermal energy and we store it into 00:01:53.42000:01:53.430 the buffer tank whenever there's a 00:01:54.98000:01:54.990 demand for thermal energy in the 00:01:56.63000:01:56.640 building it takes it from the buffer 00:01:57.83000:01:57.840 tank and sends it where it needs to go 00:01:59.26000:01:59.270 while that's happening the engines 00:02:01.31000:02:01.320 turning the alternator and we're 00:02:02.51000:02:02.520 producing four point seven kilowatts an 00:02:04.24900:02:04.259 hour of electricity while we're running 00:02:06.10900:02:06.119 the unit now as I understand it the best 00:02:07.99900:02:08.009 way or the way to optimize this 00:02:09.29000:02:09.300 equipment is to have the end 00:02:10.62000:02:10.630 running as often as constantly as 00:02:12.63000:02:12.640 possible and at the highest rpms but 00:02:14.46000:02:14.470 that seems counterintuitive to energy 00:02:16.47000:02:16.480 efficiency so help me understand that 00:02:17.88000:02:17.890 the building is only going to keep 00:02:19.14000:02:19.150 consumed so many BTUs and heat while 00:02:22.44000:02:22.450 that is happening we're producing 00:02:23.79000:02:23.800 electricity as a by-product so we need 00:02:25.83000:02:25.840 the engine running to produce that 00:02:27.93000:02:27.940 electrical energy it's not going to 00:02:29.67000:02:29.680 change the amount of the gas that we're 00:02:31.71000:02:31.720 consuming in the building what kind of 00:02:33.42000:02:33.430 offsets can they expect in terms of 00:02:35.01000:02:35.020 thermal energy as well as electricity a 00:02:36.66000:02:36.670 lot of that depends on the spark spread 00:02:38.52000:02:38.530 the cost of the fuel versus the cost of 00:02:40.26000:02:40.270 the kilowatt here they have a higher 00:02:43.05000:02:43.060 kilowatt price a rate and so when we run 00:02:46.80000:02:46.810 that we'll be able to have a better 00:02:49.35000:02:49.360 payback than if we were just burning the 00:02:50.85000:02:50.860 gas the unit also has a few smart 00:02:52.80000:02:52.810 features to help optimize its 00:02:54.12000:02:54.130 performance for cooling climates there's 00:02:56.67000:02:56.680 a summer protection mode that runs at a 00:02:58.14000:02:58.150 lower speed to conserve the fuel source 00:03:00.09000:03:00.100 such as propane during times of the year 00:03:02.28000:03:02.290 where heating energy is in less demand 00:03:03.66000:03:03.670 in residential applications the unit 00:03:05.67000:03:05.680 would ideally be used to heat a swimming 00:03:07.02000:03:07.030 pool allowing it to run at full capacity 00:03:08.73000:03:08.740 all year embedded software allows the 00:03:11.91000:03:11.920 unit to sync with dynamic utility rates 00:03:13.62000:03:13.630 to take maximum advantage of low rate 00:03:15.69000:03:15.700 times and lessen the cost impact of high 00:03:17.79000:03:17.800 rate times and there's an onboard 00:03:20.34000:03:20.350 display that enables real-time energy 00:03:22.17000:03:22.180 monitoring a key component in 00:03:23.70000:03:23.710 maintaining and improving energy 00:03:25.02000:03:25.030 performance and efficiency now the great 00:03:27.45000:03:27.460 thing about micro CHP technology is that 00:03:29.64000:03:29.650 it can run on propane thereby optimizing 00:03:32.01000:03:32.020 an on-site energy source 00:03:33.30000:03:33.310 now that's critical in these times of 00:03:35.01000:03:35.020 energy uncertainty and a key reason why 00:03:36.90000:03:36.910 micro CHP technology helps reduce energy 00:03:39.44900:03:39.459 consumption costs and carbon emissions 00:03:41.31000:03:41.320 compared to traditional systems of 00:03:43.29000:03:43.300 course there are ideal circumstances for 00:03:45.57000:03:45.580 micro CHP technology especially when it 00:03:48.00000:03:48.010 comes to single-family housing 00:03:49.19900:03:49.209 applications builders and contractors 00:03:51.27000:03:51.280 can offer the greatest benefit to their 00:03:53.16000:03:53.170 customers in colder climates where 00:03:55.02000:03:55.030 heating energy is in the most demand the 00:03:57.42000:03:57.430 technology also is targeted to areas 00:03:59.13000:03:59.140 with high electrical rates like the 00:04:00.63000:04:00.640 Northeast homes over 4,000 square feet 00:04:03.60000:04:03.610 also are ideal as they typically have 00:04:05.91000:04:05.920 higher heating energy demand and 00:04:07.14000:04:07.150 therefore can realize a faster return on 00:04:08.91000:04:08.920 investment now there aren't a lot of new 00:04:11.97000:04:11.980 homes being built right now especially 00:04:13.53000:04:13.540 large ones but here's the thing micro 00:04:15.60000:04:15.610 CHP technology can be easily retrofitted 00:04:17.58000:04:17.590 or added to an existing system helping 00:04:20.09900:04:20.109 older homes and businesses operate more 00:04:21.90000:04:21.910 efficiently save energy and 00:04:24.06000:04:24.070 later on the environment and the 00:04:25.62000:04:25.630 technology is compatible with a variety 00:04:27.00000:04:27.010 of HVAC equipment it doesn't replace 00:04:29.25000:04:29.260 that equipment 00:04:30.03000:04:30.040 it just helps it operate more 00:04:31.11000:04:31.120 efficiently we're here with Mitch 00:04:32.79000:04:32.800 Mitchell who not only serves as this 00:04:34.29000:04:34.300 area's propane supplier and service 00:04:36.12000:04:36.130 provider but he's family also owns this 00:04:38.04000:04:38.050 carwash now Mitch tell me what problems 00:04:40.98000:04:40.990 you're trying to solve by incorporating 00:04:42.18000:04:42.190 micro CHP technology into this carwash 00:04:44.04000:04:44.050 well one thing we had was very high 00:04:45.72000:04:45.730 electric bills here so and we also use a 00:04:47.70000:04:47.710 lot of fuels so we thought by using a 00:04:49.56000:04:49.570 CHP we could curb the amount of 00:04:50.88000:04:50.890 lectricity we use and make a operation 00:04:52.83000:04:52.840 more efficient now why is it a carwash 00:04:54.66000:04:54.670 in particular a good candidate for this 00:04:56.52000:04:56.530 technology year-round hot water use for 00:04:59.34000:04:59.350 washing the cars and also a lot of 00:05:00.63000:05:00.640 winter use for heating the the building 00:05:02.28000:05:02.290 and doing right into eating the slabs 00:05:03.36000:05:03.370 okay now when you say radiant heating 00:05:04.68000:05:04.690 the slabs what are we talking about the 00:05:05.73000:05:05.740 bays and invest in front of the bays yes 00:05:07.53000:05:07.540 the basin in front of the base is the 00:05:09.18000:05:09.190 entrances and the exits just it also 00:05:11.19000:05:11.200 cuts down liability from car sliding 00:05:12.75000:05:12.760 into each other okay that makes sense 00:05:14.07000:05:14.080 I know it's going to take a while to get 00:05:15.27000:05:15.280 your payback but what do you anticipate 00:05:16.89000:05:16.900 being able to offset in terms of heating 00:05:19.56000:05:19.570 for water thermal energy and also 00:05:21.18000:05:21.190 electricity what we're looking at about 00:05:22.80000:05:22.810 saving about a third on our electric 00:05:24.18000:05:24.190 bill at least and when we did our 00:05:25.68000:05:25.690 numbers we looked at about a four and a 00:05:27.03000:05:27.040 half to five year payback on the 00:05:28.17000:05:28.180 equipment really wow that's a pretty 00:05:29.46000:05:29.470 fast pay back yeah well it's year-round 00:05:30.84000:05:30.850 use of hot water so we have a lot of use 00:05:33.33000:05:33.340 here now in this market where other 00:05:35.28000:05:35.290 opportunities where do other 00:05:37.02000:05:37.030 opportunities exist for micro CHP any 00:05:39.15000:05:39.160 place it uses a lot of hot water health 00:05:41.34000:05:41.350 clubs laundromats assisted living 00:05:44.07000:05:44.080 facilities places like that that would 00:05:45.39000:05:45.400 have a big hot water demand okay great 00:05:47.16000:05:47.170 well thanks a lot thanks to its small 00:05:49.23000:05:49.240 footprint the Eco power micro CHP is 00:05:51.81000:05:51.820 easy to add to the HVAC system of a home 00:05:54.24000:05:54.250 or building new or existing so Mike tell 00:05:57.15000:05:57.160 me a little bit about some of the 00:05:58.26000:05:58.270 installation techniques or conditions 00:06:01.14000:06:01.150 that are optimal for this things like 00:06:02.91000:06:02.920 area around the unit ventilation things 00:06:06.21000:06:06.220 like that basically we want to have 00:06:08.01000:06:08.020 plenty of space around the unit so we 00:06:09.60000:06:09.610 can service the engine and do 00:06:10.83000:06:10.840 maintenance needs to be inside the unit 00:06:12.69000:06:12.700 cannot go outside we don't like to see 00:06:15.12000:06:15.130 the the space that it's in get over like 00:06:16.86000:06:16.870 90 to 95 degrees so pretty much a good 00:06:20.01000:06:20.020 dry scenario for it to be able to 00:06:22.44000:06:22.450 operate now I understand that these 00:06:24.00000:06:24.010 units are compatible with a lot of 00:06:25.17000:06:25.180 different HVAC systems heating systems 00:06:27.06000:06:27.070 thermal heat space heating water heating 00:06:29.52000:06:29.530 tell me about some of the hookups that 00:06:31.11000:06:31.120 that are that you have to make to make 00:06:33.42000:06:33.430 this machine work with those systems the 00:06:35.28000:06:35.290 hookup between the echo power and si 00:06:37.74000:06:37.750 Peter's stay pretty much standard the 00:06:39.27000:06:39.280 entire time after this after the buffer 00:06:41.91000:06:41.920 tank you can pretty much send the heat 00:06:43.92000:06:43.930 out to a fan coil radiant heat baseboard 00:06:47.31000:06:47.320 heat milking applications potable water 00:06:50.88000:06:50.890 swimming pools anything like that that 00:06:52.89000:06:52.900 requires thermal energy okay in terms of 00:06:55.29000:06:55.300 generating the electricity I understand 00:06:57.45000:06:57.460 that this can work with a net metering 00:06:58.62000:06:58.630 situation too so explain what net 00:07:00.06000:07:00.070 metering is and how this ties into that 00:07:01.80000:07:01.810 well net metering comes into play when 00:07:03.90000:07:03.910 we're going to produce more electricity 00:07:04.92000:07:04.930 than what the building can consume which 00:07:07.32000:07:07.330 means we're going to be spending the 00:07:08.19000:07:08.200 electrical meter backwards now in terms 00:07:10.26000:07:10.270 of maintenance 00:07:10.92000:07:10.930 what can the building owner or the 00:07:12.66000:07:12.670 homeowner expect in terms of maintenance 00:07:13.98000:07:13.990 the union has to be serviced every 4,000 00:07:16.68000:07:16.690 hours so if it was rain continuously 00:07:18.69000:07:18.700 that would be in six months basically 00:07:21.54000:07:21.550 it's the oil the air filter the oil 00:07:23.19000:07:23.200 filters spark plug in the spark plug 00:07:24.84000:07:24.850 cable on every installation that we do 00:07:27.03000:07:27.040 the contractor provides a netbook 00:07:28.71000:07:28.720 computer that gives them the ability to 00:07:31.05000:07:31.060 be able to troubleshoot work with the 00:07:32.34000:07:32.350 system make sure everything's operating 00:07:34.62000:07:34.630 correctly and to know when it needs to 00:07:36.24000:07:36.250 be maintenance they provide that unit 00:07:38.94000:07:38.950 it's connected to online so they can 00:07:41.22000:07:41.230 remotely connect and also so the factory 00:07:43.02000:07:43.030 can remote connect with unit as well so 00:07:45.36000:07:45.370 what's next for micro CHP technology 00:07:47.15900:07:47.169 well it's already embedded in the 00:07:48.96000:07:48.970 Federal Energy Star climate Choice 00:07:50.43000:07:50.440 Program which targets merging energy 00:07:52.74000:07:52.750 saving solutions to help build awareness 00:07:54.39000:07:54.400 and a critical mass of demand in fact 00:07:57.21000:07:57.220 marathon's eco power CHP system earned 00:07:59.61000:07:59.620 the Energy Star emerging technology 00:08:01.20000:08:01.210 award for 2011 among all of the systems 00:08:03.60000:08:03.610 in the climate Choice Program that kind 00:08:05.79000:08:05.800 of recognition as well as other 00:08:07.40900:08:07.419 important drivers such as the rising 00:08:08.94000:08:08.950 cost of electricity the need for cleaner 00:08:11.07000:08:11.080 burning equipment an interesting Green 00:08:12.96000:08:12.970 Building is pushing micro CHP store 00:08:15.30000:08:15.310 becoming an Energy Star qualified 00:08:16.40900:08:16.419 product category that status would not 00:08:19.02000:08:19.030 only spur the market but also give 00:08:20.90900:08:20.919 builders and building owners the 00:08:21.99000:08:22.000 opportunity to objectively compare their 00:08:23.70000:08:23.710 options in Ocean Springs another micro 00:08:26.34000:08:26.350 CHP manufacturer Yanmar America 00:08:28.26000:08:28.270 corporation created a working model in a 00:08:30.63000:08:30.640 warehouse to simulate a light commercial 00:08:32.15900:08:32.169 application of the technology in this 00:08:34.68000:08:34.690 mock-up they're addressing a variety of 00:08:36.83900:08:36.849 scenarios that incorporate micro CHP 00:08:38.96900:08:38.979 which also allows builders installers 00:08:41.49000:08:41.500 and consumers to see it in action and 00:08:43.70900:08:43.719 also understand its versatility it's 00:08:45.66000:08:45.670 also the perfect training environment 00:08:47.13000:08:47.140 for blossoming gas which hopes to 00:08:48.87000:08:48.880 leverage micro CHP technology in several 00:08:51.06000:08:51.070 markets 00:08:51.48000:08:51.490 Georg Woodcock is the manager of the 00:08:53.57900:08:53.589 energy system division at Yanmar america 00:08:55.59000:08:55.600 corporation which is on the cusp of 00:08:57.00000:08:57.010 introducing its micro CHP unit to North 00:08:59.40000:08:59.410 America George thanks for joining us no 00:09:00.90000:09:00.910 it's my closure tell us about this unit 00:09:02.85000:09:02.860 and how and what it's hooked up to here 00:09:04.82900:09:04.839 at this facility 00:09:05.82000:09:05.830 basically this ten kilowatt unit is 00:09:07.74000:09:07.750 hooked up to a dehumidification system a 00:09:10.17000:09:10.180 hot water tank baseboard heating in an 00:09:13.53000:09:13.540 HVAC system that utilizes a air to water 00:09:16.47000:09:16.480 heat exchanger now you mentioned the 00:09:18.82900:09:18.839 dehumidification component to that tell 00:09:21.06000:09:21.070 me about why that's necessary and how 00:09:22.41000:09:22.420 that helps the system yeah the key for 00:09:24.54000:09:24.550 micro cogeneration is to utilize as much 00:09:27.18000:09:27.190 as you can the electrical output and the 00:09:30.48000:09:30.490 thermal output and during the summer 00:09:32.51900:09:32.529 months what do you do with the heat so 00:09:34.80000:09:34.810 what we do is we put it into a 00:09:36.42000:09:36.430 dehumidification system to take the 00:09:38.55000:09:38.560 humidity out there and you could raise 00:09:41.25000:09:41.260 your air conditioned temperature 00:09:42.72000:09:42.730 slightly to keep the same comfort level 00:09:44.55000:09:44.560 talk to me about the performance of this 00:09:46.41000:09:46.420 unit what can you expect okay the tenth 00:09:48.51000:09:48.520 kilowatt unit has an efficiency of about 00:09:50.46000:09:50.470 88% the service interval is 10,000 hours 00:09:54.06000:09:54.070 or 13 months and three weeks is designed 00:09:56.88000:09:56.890 for 24/7 operation and also the sound 00:10:00.32900:10:00.339 level is down to 57 decibels which is 00:10:03.21000:10:03.220 comparable to a high-end dishwasher 00:10:04.80000:10:04.810 excellent well thanks for joining us 00:10:06.00000:10:06.010 thank you 00:10:06.56000:10:06.570 we're here with Rhonda Mullenix who is a 00:10:08.82000:10:08.830 distributed energy representative for 00:10:10.62000:10:10.630 blossom and gas here in Ocean Springs 00:10:11.82000:10:11.830 Ron - thanks for being with us thank you 00:10:13.53000:10:13.540 tell us how you plan to use this 00:10:15.75000:10:15.760 installation for your installers and 00:10:17.22000:10:17.230 subs basically we hope to bring in our 00:10:19.71000:10:19.720 employees and other subcontractors 00:10:21.50000:10:21.510 throughout the year that we have our 00:10:23.37000:10:23.380 trainings and just basically be able to 00:10:26.13000:10:26.140 go through the variable applications of 00:10:27.75000:10:27.760 the CHP and what types of buildings do 00:10:29.79000:10:29.800 you see this unit being appropriate for 00:10:31.82000:10:31.830 restaurants laundromats fitness centers 00:10:34.50000:10:34.510 nursing homes any small commercial 00:10:36.87000:10:36.880 building that has a high demand for hot 00:10:38.49000:10:38.500 water usage as well as electricity so is 00:10:41.67000:10:41.680 there anything in particular about this 00:10:43.31900:10:43.329 installation that's going to be new for 00:10:45.24000:10:45.250 your installers are pretty familiar with 00:10:46.82900:10:46.839 this product each product is designed 00:10:48.78000:10:48.790 for a specific need depending on what 00:10:50.63900:10:50.649 you're looking for in the application 00:10:52.59000:10:52.600 but with any electrical contractor or 00:10:55.05000:10:55.060 HVAC contractor should be no problem at 00:10:57.00000:10:57.010 all excellent well thank you very much 00:10:58.26000:10:58.27000:10:58.74000:10:58.750 micro CHP technology has a few hurdles 00:11:01.17000:11:01.180 to overcome before it achieves 00:11:02.43000:11:02.440 mainstream status chief among those is 00:11:04.86000:11:04.870 awareness 00:11:05.25000:11:05.260 which these two installations among 00:11:06.99000:11:07.000 others will help it overcome but it also 00:11:08.79000:11:08.800 needs to establish a proven track record 00:11:10.71000:11:10.720 of performance in the US in addition to 00:11:12.84000:11:12.850 its market acceptance and success in 00:11:14.43000:11:14.440 Europe and of course industry 00:11:16.20000:11:16.210 professionals want a lower cost of 00:11:17.88000:11:17.890 installation as well as a faster return 00:11:19.95000:11:19.960 on investment which will come primarily 00:11:21.84000:11:21.850 from increased demand we'd like to thank 00:11:24.21000:11:24.220 our friends in Ocean Springs Mississippi 00:11:25.92000:11:25.930 and New Milford Connecticut for letting 00:11:28.23000:11:28.240 us take a closer look at this emerging 00:11:29.88000:11:29.890 and exciting technology for more 00:11:31.83000:11:31.840 information about micro CHP technology 00:11:33.72000:11:33.730 and to take online training courses and 00:11:35.40000:11:35.410 see more educational videos about 00:11:37.02000:11:37.030 incorporating propane into your projects 00:11:38.61000:11:38.620 going to build with propane comm for the 00:11:41.25000:11:41.260 propane Education and Research Council 00:11:42.72000:11:42.730 I'm Richmond Saka 00:11:43.53000:11:43.540 thanks for watching
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