MLCC's Are They Worth The Effort (Part 1)

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00:00:35.529 00:00:35.539 hey guys backyard scrapping here well it
00:00:39.560 00:00:39.570 is time to see if mlcc's are a waste of
00:00:45.380 00:00:45.390 time anymore anyway
00:00:48.740 00:00:48.750 these are I showed you before in a
00:00:52.399 00:00:52.409 couple videos and a back and I said I
00:00:54.079 00:00:54.089 was going to go ahead and do a video on
00:00:55.369 00:00:55.379 mlcc's do a test what we got going on
00:01:00.590 00:01:00.600 here these are all magnetic right here
00:01:03.740 00:01:03.750 these are magnetic mlcc's all of them
00:01:07.070 00:01:07.080 everything in that jar
00:01:08.719 00:01:08.729 these little guys which came out of here
00:01:11.740 00:01:11.750 dunnies which are magnetic which also
00:01:14.210 00:01:14.220 came off of processors and processor
00:01:17.029 00:01:17.039 type pins now this jar of mlcc's is
00:01:21.820 00:01:21.830 non-magnetic and I use a neodymium
00:01:26.899 00:01:26.909 magnet to separate them so people say
00:01:29.960 00:01:29.970 use a regular magnet because you know
00:01:33.350 00:01:33.360 it's not as powerful and you're not
00:01:35.059 00:01:35.069 going to get the tin problem and all
00:01:36.710 00:01:36.720 that but anyway I want to make sure
00:01:38.870 00:01:38.880 they're non-magnetic so what I did is I
00:01:42.109 00:01:42.119 took a strainer or a sieve and I sipped
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00:01:48.800 00:01:48.810 this jar so all of them in here are
00:01:50.959 00:01:50.969 pretty decent-sized and as you can see
00:01:53.300 00:01:53.310 in here these are very small let me see
00:01:55.370 00:01:55.380 if I can find a coin or something real
00:01:58.730 00:01:58.740 quick to throw on there and show you how
00:02:01.429 00:02:01.439 small these little guys really are we've
00:02:07.459 00:02:07.469 got a banged-up buffalo nickel but I
00:02:11.380 00:02:11.390 don't know if you can see these are like
00:02:14.449 00:02:14.459 most of them are like sand I mean
00:02:17.270 00:02:17.280 they're like sugar grains this little
00:02:19.660 00:02:19.670 buffalo nickel should give you a pretty
00:02:24.500 00:02:24.510 good idea just how small these are so
00:02:27.110 00:02:27.120 you know there's a lot of time involved
00:02:28.789 00:02:28.799 with taking those out I'm picking those
00:02:32.270 00:02:32.280 off the board or scraping them off the
00:02:33.979 00:02:33.989 board and as you can see - I don't have
00:02:36.140 00:02:36.150 the little white resistors or little
00:02:38.000 00:02:38.010 blue things in there I mean I really
00:02:39.380 00:02:39.390 take my time when I'm doing this but
00:02:41.750 00:02:41.760 what we have here is a hundred grams
00:02:43.370 00:02:43.380 we're going to go ahead and take it
00:02:45.050 00:02:45.060 outside we're going to start by putting
00:02:46.759 00:02:46.769 it in hydrochloric
00:02:47.650 00:02:47.660 work acid probably for a week or so and
00:02:52.170 00:02:52.180 then we will start the process and see
00:02:57.730 00:02:57.740 if we have any palladium and any silver
00:03:01.990 00:03:02.000 in these see if it's worth it because I
00:03:04.090 00:03:04.100 mean there's when you look at this I
00:03:06.100 00:03:06.110 mean even those even the bigger guys
00:03:08.710 00:03:08.720 there's a lot of time involved in
00:03:10.630 00:03:10.640 harvesting mlcc's so and the majority as
00:03:15.040 00:03:15.050 you can see by this jar versus this jar
00:03:18.820 00:03:18.830 the majority are magnetic so I'm hoping
00:03:23.770 00:03:23.780 that the magnetics still have some
00:03:26.200 00:03:26.210 silver and palladium in them and hoping
00:03:29.650 00:03:29.660 that these are actually silver and
00:03:32.740 00:03:32.750 palladium because that will be nice
00:03:34.330 00:03:34.340 that's pretty heavy so we will get back
00:03:37.330 00:03:37.340 at you when we get outside to get these
00:03:42.040 00:03:42.050 started the cleanup process in the
00:03:44.020 00:03:44.030 hydrochloric acid and what we're going
00:03:45.550 00:03:45.560 to do is dissolve all the 10 and all the
00:03:47.460 00:03:47.470 whatever you know off of them and junk
00:03:50.200 00:03:50.210 and then we'll rinse them really really
00:03:52.390 00:03:52.400 really good and then we will actually
00:03:55.780 00:03:55.790 put them in nitric acid so I have some
00:03:59.290 00:03:59.300 dmg to test for palladium so we'll see
00:04:03.250 00:04:03.260 what happens so we'll get back at you in
00:04:05.080 00:04:05.090 just a bit okay guys we're outside we've
00:04:11.410 00:04:11.420 got our hundred grams of sugar grain or
00:04:14.590 00:04:14.600 sand grains eyes mlcc's I'm gonna go
00:04:18.400 00:04:18.410 ahead and put them in this beaker and
00:04:20.170 00:04:20.180 we're gonna go ahead and detent them
00:04:22.710 00:04:22.720 probably detent them and probably take
00:04:25.420 00:04:25.430 some nickel a lot of them too as well
00:04:27.610 00:04:27.620 00:04:29.790 00:04:29.800 just put in about 200 milliliters of HCL
00:04:34.390 00:04:34.400 and we are basically going to just let
00:04:36.670 00:04:36.680 these guys sit for about a week so we
00:04:41.130 00:04:41.140 will be back at you guys when we go to
00:04:45.460 00:04:45.470 change this out to make sure that enough
00:04:50.530 00:04:50.540 of our tin and junk and crap has been
00:04:53.740 00:04:53.750 removed
00:04:55.000 00:04:55.010 and then we'll get into the process of
00:04:58.170 00:04:58.180 seeing what we have seen if we've gotten
00:05:00.730 00:05:00.740 any silver or we got any palladium these
00:05:03.010 00:05:03.020 boy I really hope there is I hope all
00:05:05.050 00:05:05.060 the hype about them you know it's been
00:05:08.260 00:05:08.270 about 50/50 I see people you know yeah
00:05:10.420 00:05:10.430 they're good oh yeah they're bad but I
00:05:13.030 00:05:13.040 really hope they're good know if
00:05:14.830 00:05:14.840 anybody's looked at palladium lately but
00:05:16.750 00:05:16.760 it's about honest $1,800 an ounce which
00:05:20.320 00:05:20.330 I'm sure it'll go back down but I mean
00:05:23.640 00:05:23.650 it's hard to resist doing these at
00:05:27.310 00:05:27.320 $1,800 an ounce for palladium so I'm go
00:05:31.090 00:05:31.100 ahead and get this covered up we're just
00:05:36.340 00:05:36.350 gonna leave it sit let me see if I can
00:05:39.430 00:05:39.440 actually change this out for this one I
00:05:41.650 00:05:41.660 sure would rather use this one so I can
00:05:46.690 00:05:46.700 see in there all righty guys like I said
00:05:54.130 00:05:54.140 it's gonna be about a week so I'm gonna
00:05:56.830 00:05:56.840 let them sit for a week anyway I know
00:05:58.720 00:05:58.730 you can get away with a day or two but I
00:06:00.790 00:06:00.800 just want to do this as best as I can do
00:06:04.720 00:06:04.730 it to make sure I'm doing it because
00:06:06.460 00:06:06.470 it's a test and I want to make sure if
00:06:08.740 00:06:08.750 they're no good that they're no good for
00:06:10.420 00:06:10.430 the right reasons or if they're good
00:06:12.610 00:06:12.620 that they're good for the right reasons
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00:06:18.280 00:06:18.290 said about a week well we'll get back to
00:06:20.890 00:06:20.900 you in about a second for you see in a
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00:06:26.220 00:06:26.230 okay guys we are back with our mlcc's I
00:06:33.180 00:06:33.190 would venture to say that they are
00:06:36.020 00:06:36.030 probably have got as much junk off of
00:06:39.270 00:06:39.280 them as we're going to get off of them
00:06:41.540 00:06:41.550 they actually went I've been thinking
00:06:45.210 00:06:45.220 this is almost 10 days in the HCL I did
00:06:49.320 00:06:49.330 change it out once I just haven't had
00:06:51.780 00:06:51.790 time to mess with them because of the
00:06:53.370 00:06:53.380 drawing and everything else so I've been
00:06:56.130 00:06:56.140 pretty tied up with that so what we're
00:06:58.530 00:06:58.540 gonna do is we're gonna there's I can
00:07:01.020 00:07:01.030 see by the contamination color in here
00:07:03.440 00:07:03.450 we probably have a little nickel and we
00:07:06.540 00:07:06.550 probably have some copper but nickel
00:07:09.360 00:07:09.370 palladium platinum any of that kind of
00:07:11.580 00:07:11.590 white stuff I'm gonna put my gloves on
00:07:14.490 00:07:14.500 you do not want that stuff on you ever
00:07:17.870 00:07:17.880 so let me get set back up let me get my
00:07:21.090 00:07:21.100 gloves on
00:07:22.020 00:07:22.030 and we're gonna go ahead and pour this
00:07:23.790 00:07:23.800 off and then we're gonna rinse these a
00:07:25.620 00:07:25.630 thousand times because our next step is
00:07:28.950 00:07:28.960 going to be to put on a nitric acid and
00:07:30.660 00:07:30.670 see if we get any silver off of them so
00:07:32.630 00:07:32.640 we will get back at you in just a bit
00:07:36.890 00:07:36.900 okay guys we are back I think the first
00:07:40.320 00:07:40.330 thing I'm going to do is real quickly
00:07:44.510 00:07:44.520 just check this make sure we don't have
00:07:49.110 00:07:49.120 any I don't believe we will but any
00:07:53.070 00:07:53.080 precious metal and solution
00:08:02.510 00:08:02.520 we got a lot of little floaties in here
00:08:04.790 00:08:04.800 that are gonna have to come off
00:08:14.570 00:08:14.580 they said I don't believe we're going to
00:08:16.370 00:08:16.380 have anything in there but it never
00:08:19.070 00:08:19.080 hurts to check
00:08:27.250 00:08:27.260 and I am seeing nothing absolutely
00:08:31.990 00:08:32.000 nothing other than our little floaties
00:08:34.600 00:08:34.610 that were in there when we started so
00:08:48.210 00:08:48.220 once again this is gonna go in a
00:08:50.820 00:08:50.830 different disposal I'm actually gonna
00:08:55.920 00:08:55.930 have will actually have them in a bag
00:08:57.480 00:08:57.490 over here I'm gonna put all this stuff
00:08:59.190 00:08:59.200 in and I will give this from that buddy
00:09:04.190 00:09:04.200 down the road who fools with other stuff
00:09:08.100 00:09:08.110 that's a lot more dangerous than the
00:09:10.230 00:09:10.240 stuff I fool with so you have more metal
00:09:16.680 00:09:16.690 in solution I have my little X jug
00:09:21.150 00:09:21.160 because I'm not going to put this in my
00:09:23.600 00:09:23.610 any of this in my this is completely
00:09:33.930 00:09:33.940 different stuff and we don't want to do
00:09:38.520 00:09:38.530 that you can see it change from a green
00:09:41.370 00:09:41.380 to a almost like a deep purple brown
00:09:47.550 00:09:47.560 which usually indicates gold but there
00:09:49.950 00:09:49.960 was no gold in it so now we're going to
00:09:53.340 00:09:53.350 go through this and we're gonna rinse it
00:09:54.900 00:09:54.910 just like we do our silver that was
00:10:00.150 00:10:00.160 actually just straight HCL so when I get
00:10:05.610 00:10:05.620 these rinsed and cleaned real good we
00:10:07.590 00:10:07.600 are going to change them over to a
00:10:10.820 00:10:10.830 little bit of diluted nitric acid and
00:10:16.320 00:10:16.330 we're gonna see if we get any silver off
00:10:17.940 00:10:17.950 of them so we will be back at you guys
00:10:21.570 00:10:21.580 in after I get this wrenched
00:10:26.410 00:10:26.420 okay everybody we are back I went it
00:10:30.519 00:10:30.529 looks like there's I don't know if you
00:10:32.319 00:10:32.329 can see that but it looks like there's
00:10:34.000 00:10:34.010 all kind of little foils in there I do
00:10:37.480 00:10:37.490 not know what they are yet I rinsed this
00:10:42.970 00:10:42.980 about probably two or three times as
00:10:46.960 00:10:46.970 much as I would have rinsed silver
00:10:48.850 00:10:48.860 powder which is a lot I actually have
00:10:52.629 00:10:52.639 well water so I could boil my well water
00:10:55.060 00:10:55.070 to rinse it and then my final rinse I
00:10:57.160 00:10:57.170 did with distilled water just in case
00:10:59.259 00:10:59.269 and now we have about a hundred mils of
00:11:01.960 00:11:01.970 distilled water in here and I've got a
00:11:05.170 00:11:05.180 hundred mils of nitric acid over here
00:11:07.210 00:11:07.220 the main thing we don't want to see
00:11:09.340 00:11:09.350 happen is we don't want to see an
00:11:10.780 00:11:10.790 instant yellow reaction because that
00:11:13.300 00:11:13.310 will tell us that we had we didn't get
00:11:16.389 00:11:16.399 all of the hydrochloric acid out and
00:11:18.430 00:11:18.440 we're actually making off the reagent
00:11:20.079 00:11:20.089 and we don't want to do that we want
00:11:22.569 00:11:22.579 this to just dissolve any silver that is
00:11:26.110 00:11:26.120 in here if there is any so we're going
00:11:28.090 00:11:28.100 to put a little bit in see what happens
00:11:31.350 00:11:31.360 we're not getting yellow we're getting a
00:11:33.970 00:11:33.980 blue so
00:11:40.410 00:11:40.420 okay let me turn my back fan on I'm
00:11:43.019 00:11:43.029 happy with that
00:11:43.920 00:11:43.930 I didn't see I didn't see a reaction
00:11:48.569 00:11:48.579 that was gonna indicate that we didn't
00:11:52.650 00:11:52.660 get all our hydrochloric acid out
00:12:00.570 00:12:00.580 or this in that blue I'm imagining is
00:12:06.269 00:12:06.279 copper I don't know like I said this is
00:12:08.130 00:12:08.140 the first time for me guys so what we're
00:12:10.769 00:12:10.779 going to do is dissolve this off see
00:12:16.680 00:12:16.690 what's left we'll rinse it then we'll
00:12:18.900 00:12:18.910 check our we'll filter it and we'll
00:12:21.090 00:12:21.100 check our solution for silver if we have
00:12:23.550 00:12:23.560 a decent silver content in here then we
00:12:26.610 00:12:26.620 know there's probably going to be some
00:12:28.019 00:12:28.029 palladium so I'm going to just let this
00:12:30.930 00:12:30.940 thing do its thing just like I said
00:12:35.519 00:12:35.529 before there's my little bag that I'm
00:12:37.170 00:12:37.180 using for this these gloves will go on
00:12:39.300 00:12:39.310 that bag and not reuse these gloves
00:12:43.310 00:12:43.320 we're appearing to get a pretty good
00:12:46.319 00:12:46.329 reaction so and it doesn't look like
00:12:50.100 00:12:50.110 it's all copper so let me go ahead and
00:12:55.050 00:12:55.060 put a little bit more of this and we'll
00:12:56.639 00:12:56.649 let it react down
00:13:04.340 00:13:04.350 put us a lid on it and just let it do
00:13:08.420 00:13:08.430 its thing and we will get back at you
00:13:12.290 00:13:12.300 guys in a little bit
00:13:19.380 00:13:19.390 okay guys as you can hear the rain is
00:13:22.240 00:13:22.250 pouring down this slowed up a little bit
00:13:26.170 00:13:26.180 it's been about 15 or 20 minutes so I
00:13:28.300 00:13:28.310 just went ahead and added I don't know
00:13:30.490 00:13:30.500 maybe 10 or 20 more mils of nitric acid
00:13:33.480 00:13:33.490 it seems to be doing fine the reaction
00:13:38.350 00:13:38.360 or the color that I'm getting actually
00:13:41.050 00:13:41.060 looks like the same color that I get
00:13:42.970 00:13:42.980 when I'm doing high-end silver contacts
00:13:45.790 00:13:45.800 so that may be a good sign I have no
00:13:49.060 00:13:49.070 idea yet but anyhow I just figured I'd
00:13:53.530 00:13:53.540 give you a quick shot of that to let you
00:13:55.420 00:13:55.430 see it it's that aqua green color
00:13:57.280 00:13:57.290 instead of a strong blue or a you know
00:14:01.300 00:14:01.310 or a strong green it's right there in
00:14:03.280 00:14:03.290 that nice aqua color so a lot of times
00:14:05.980 00:14:05.990 when we're doing those big block you
00:14:07.780 00:14:07.790 know the big off of busbars silver
00:14:10.210 00:14:10.220 contacts this is the color that we end
00:14:12.190 00:14:12.200 up with or that starts out so hopefully
00:14:15.160 00:14:15.170 that's an indication of some nice silver
00:14:19.170 00:14:19.180 we're gonna let it go till we don't get
00:14:23.050 00:14:23.060 a reaction anymore when we add nitric
00:14:25.120 00:14:25.130 acid then we will filter that stuff off
00:14:27.910 00:14:27.920 and test it for silver so we'll be back
00:14:31.480 00:14:31.490 at you all in a bit okay guys we are
00:14:35.620 00:14:35.630 back again I actually put a little more
00:14:39.910 00:14:39.920 acid in here and we're getting a little
00:14:41.650 00:14:41.660 more nitric and we are getting a little
00:14:43.090 00:14:43.100 bit more of a reaction but I am seeing
00:14:46.240 00:14:46.250 something that I don't like and it looks
00:14:48.720 00:14:48.730 to me like we are getting a bunch of
00:14:53.650 00:14:53.660 silver chloride in here so I don't know
00:14:56.410 00:14:56.420 if the ceramics hold
00:15:02.949 00:15:02.959 you know the acid or what but I rinse
00:15:05.870 00:15:05.880 this you know I mean 25 times probably
00:15:09.650 00:15:09.660 so anyway I'm just gonna let it go let
00:15:13.490 00:15:13.500 it settle add a little more acid to it
00:15:17.180 00:15:17.190 see if we get any more reaction and just
00:15:20.180 00:15:20.190 go from there
00:15:21.019 00:15:21.029 so we'll get back at you in a little bit
00:15:26.410 00:15:26.420 alrighty everybody we're still having a
00:15:28.639 00:15:28.649 reaction in here and it has been I don't
00:15:32.150 00:15:32.160 know maybe about thirty minutes to 45
00:15:33.769 00:15:33.779 minutes since I put the last dose of
00:15:35.750 00:15:35.760 nitric in and what I'm seeing here is
00:15:39.190 00:15:39.200 now you got to remember I've never
00:15:41.180 00:15:41.190 messed with mlcc's I tried one time a
00:15:43.940 00:15:43.950 little bit and didn't get very far but
00:15:47.480 00:15:47.490 I'm not seeing any mlcc's left in here
00:15:50.210 00:15:50.220 all I'm seeing is a white powder which
00:15:54.050 00:15:54.060 could be any kind of a chloride it could
00:15:56.210 00:15:56.220 be tin chloride could be lead chloride
00:15:57.829 00:15:57.839 could be silver chloride I have no idea
00:15:59.870 00:15:59.880 because once again like I said this
00:16:01.910 00:16:01.920 ml/cc thing is all new to me but it
00:16:07.310 00:16:07.320 looks like we're still having a reaction
00:16:10.009 00:16:10.019 in there we're still getting some small
00:16:12.769 00:16:12.779 reaction so I'm gonna let it go but it
00:16:15.050 00:16:15.060 looks like everything has dissolved I
00:16:17.269 00:16:17.279 mean other than the crap that's you know
00:16:20.449 00:16:20.459 a little bit floating around stuff on
00:16:22.100 00:16:22.110 top there it looks like all the solids
00:16:25.220 00:16:25.230 have pretty much dissolved so like I
00:16:30.380 00:16:30.390 said I'm just gonna let this go I don't
00:16:32.180 00:16:32.190 know if you can see that reaction how
00:16:33.889 00:16:33.899 it's doing it seems like when it settles
00:16:35.810 00:16:35.820 back down when the powder actually
00:16:37.850 00:16:37.860 settles it gets more active again but
00:16:40.639 00:16:40.649 anyway like I said I'm gonna let it go
00:16:42.410 00:16:42.420 we're gonna see what happens I don't
00:16:46.970 00:16:46.980 know exactly how we're going to deal
00:16:48.530 00:16:48.540 with this yet but I'll figure it out
00:16:50.569 00:16:50.579 along the way and I'll get back at you
00:16:55.120 00:16:55.130 in a bit
00:16:58.730 00:16:58.740 okay guys I just stirred this up and I
00:17:02.570 00:17:02.580 added a little bit of a little bit more
00:17:05.630 00:17:05.640 nitric to it it looks like silver
00:17:08.750 00:17:08.760 chloride like it's like everything has
00:17:11.180 00:17:11.190 turned the silver chloride but it does
00:17:14.210 00:17:14.220 settle out and separate pretty quick as
00:17:16.760 00:17:16.770 you can see here we are I know you can
00:17:22.040 00:17:22.050 see that we're still getting a reaction
00:17:23.449 00:17:23.459 I added about 10 more mils of nitric
00:17:25.970 00:17:25.980 acid so we're gonna let this play out I
00:17:29.390 00:17:29.400 mean I just you know this is all new to
00:17:32.270 00:17:32.280 me so we're gonna go ahead and let it go
00:17:35.690 00:17:35.700 I never thought that everything would
00:17:38.510 00:17:38.520 dissolve and turn into a powder that it
00:17:41.390 00:17:41.400 did but you can see what kind of a
00:17:43.400 00:17:43.410 reaction we'll have in here so I'm gonna
00:17:46.790 00:17:46.800 let it go probably throughout the night
00:17:51.560 00:17:51.570 I'll come out a little while and turn
00:17:53.420 00:17:53.430 the demo off and just leave it sit and
00:17:56.020 00:17:56.030 we'll get back to you out you know gonna
00:17:59.720 00:17:59.730 be a couple days for me I gotta go to
00:18:01.220 00:18:01.230 work
00:18:01.690 00:18:01.700 we'll get back to you soon as I got a
00:18:04.910 00:18:04.920 clue what's going on so we'll see you
00:18:07.940 00:18:07.950 all later
00:18:14.760 00:18:14.770 00:18:25.039 00:18:25.049 00:18:26.550 00:18:26.560 00:18:37.490 00:18:37.500
Office location
Engineering company LOTUS®
Russia, Ekaterinburg, Lunacharskogo street, 240/12

Phone: +7 343 216 77 75

E-mail: info@lotus1.ru

Sales phone

Russia: +7 343 216 77 75

WhatsApp: +79122710308