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Nerd's Eye View - CSF Radiators Universal Racing Oil Coolers
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00:00:03.049 it's one of the things that gets 00:00:05.09000:00:05.100 overlooked when building cars is cooling 00:00:08.24000:00:08.250 now you can have a really built engine 00:00:10.64000:00:10.650 but as soon as you take it to the track 00:00:12.85000:00:12.860 the temperatures start going out of 00:00:15.77000:00:15.780 control and the life of your components 00:00:17.75000:00:17.760 goes way down I mean really quick one of 00:00:21.32000:00:21.330 the things that often gets ignored there 00:00:23.12000:00:23.130 is proper cooling of the oil so today 00:00:27.14000:00:27.150 we're gonna be talking with CSF and none 00:00:30.32000:00:30.330 other than Ravi don't want from CSF it's 00:00:33.83000:00:33.840 going to explain all about his wonderful 00:00:35.95900:00:35.969 coolers that we've been using for years 00:00:38.03000:00:38.040 here and the man himself we'll go over 00:00:41.51000:00:41.520 the technology thanks Mike it's uh nice 00:00:44.03000:00:44.040 to be here thanks for having me at the 00:00:45.50000:00:45.510 Moto IQ garage 00:00:46.85000:00:46.860 so at CSF we have just released a new 00:00:50.00000:00:50.010 line of oil coolers kind of an 00:00:52.85000:00:52.860 interesting twist to the conventional 00:00:54.65000:00:54.660 oil clear that you've seen in the 00:00:55.88000:00:55.890 automotive aftermarket no one's really 00:00:58.25000:00:58.260 built an oil cooler like this and we 00:01:00.83000:01:00.840 think it's unique and there's a lot of 00:01:02.54000:01:02.550 advantages that we've built into our 00:01:05.00000:01:05.010 design that you won't find from any 00:01:06.71000:01:06.720 other oil cooler out there all right if 00:01:08.66000:01:08.670 you want to explain some of the things 00:01:10.07000:01:10.080 sure so the first thing that you're 00:01:12.38000:01:12.390 gonna notice is the construction of the 00:01:14.17900:01:14.189 core this is a high performance bar and 00:01:17.74900:01:17.759 plate core versus a softer or less 00:01:20.84000:01:20.850 durable stack type tube and fin style 00:01:23.48000:01:23.490 that you'll see a lot of cheaper oil 00:01:24.83000:01:24.840 coolers are out there in the market and 00:01:27.08000:01:27.090 it's it's really important to have a 00:01:28.67000:01:28.680 core like that like the oil the oil 00:01:30.95000:01:30.960 coolers are normally up in front of the 00:01:32.74900:01:32.759 car when you're doing racing they catch 00:01:35.56900:01:35.579 a lot of rocks and stuff and we've had 00:01:37.37000:01:37.380 oil coolers fail like that a bunch of 00:01:39.31900:01:39.329 times do the rock impacts and your 00:01:42.88900:01:42.899 coolers can do take that right oh yeah 00:01:45.02000:01:45.030 these are super durable I mean you can 00:01:46.70000:01:46.710 pick one of these up and bang on it you 00:01:48.49900:01:48.509 know you could stand on this we're 00:01:51.10900:01:51.119 really excited about the functionality 00:01:53.35900:01:53.369 of these oil coolers and where you can 00:01:54.83000:01:54.840 put them you can 00:01:55.67000:01:55.680 them even outside of the front bumper 00:01:57.80000:01:57.810 you can put them in any of the fascia 00:02:00.17000:02:00.180 openings where you might get some rock 00:02:02.12000:02:02.130 debris if you want to use it under the 00:02:04.40000:02:04.410 car as like a diff cooler you can 00:02:06.74000:02:06.750 totally do that we're very confident 00:02:08.66000:02:08.670 that it's gonna be able to take any type 00:02:09.91900:02:09.929 of abuse that you would see in any 00:02:11.33000:02:11.340 Motorsports condition so with that you 00:02:14.42000:02:14.430 know the core is a high performance 00:02:15.98000:02:15.990 turbo lated oil cooler more and you can 00:02:19.67000:02:19.680 flow any different type of oil so 00:02:21.26000:02:21.270 whether it's engine oil transmission oil 00:02:23.12000:02:23.130 power steering or any other type of 00:02:25.13000:02:25.140 fluid until it's designed to do that can 00:02:28.40000:02:28.410 you explain a little bit about your 00:02:29.87000:02:29.880 turbulator 's yeah so it's a fin that 00:02:33.83000:02:33.840 actually is inserted into the barn plate 00:02:37.64000:02:37.650 - okay and what that does is it keeps 00:02:39.74000:02:39.750 the oil in the core longer so as more 00:02:43.76000:02:43.770 fresh air passes it has a better chance 00:02:46.10000:02:46.110 of cooling the oil it's got a nice 00:02:48.02000:02:48.030 powder-coated black finish on the 00:02:49.88000:02:49.890 outside so that's also for salt 00:02:52.55000:02:52.560 corrosion as well as helps a little bit 00:02:55.34000:02:55.350 more protection with the debris that may 00:02:56.87000:02:56.880 be hitting the cooler does the coating 00:02:58.91000:02:58.920 help the blackbody radiation and improve 00:03:01.82000:03:01.830 heat exchange that way - yes it 00:03:04.28000:03:04.290 definitely helps from more than just a 00:03:05.96000:03:05.970 raw cooler so it definitely extracts 00:03:08.42000:03:08.430 heat dissipates it dissipates it faster 00:03:10.25000:03:10.260 I notice that the end plates have this 00:03:13.52000:03:13.530 my detail in there do you want to 00:03:16.00900:03:16.019 explain what what's going on with that 00:03:17.60000:03:17.610 yes so Mike I'm glad you pointed that 00:03:20.15000:03:20.160 out this is a new bar design we've come 00:03:22.82000:03:22.830 out with for this barn play oil cooler 00:03:25.03900:03:25.049 most Barham play oil coolers inner 00:03:27.50000:03:27.510 coolers anything you see in this type of 00:03:29.24000:03:29.250 core construction would have a square 00:03:31.43000:03:31.440 bar at the end we've come out with this 00:03:33.74000:03:33.750 new arrow flow design that actually is 00:03:35.60000:03:35.610 more aerodynamic and pulls the air 00:03:37.37000:03:37.380 through the core so rather than hitting 00:03:39.41000:03:39.420 the bar and scattering we're able to get 00:03:41.63000:03:41.640 a little bit additional co2 cooling 00:03:43.85000:03:43.860 going through this core with this new 00:03:45.53000:03:45.540 hole this hole actually makes this 00:03:48.14000:03:48.150 actually lighter it's stronger lighter 00:03:50.44000:03:50.450 better airflow through the core with 00:03:51.91000:03:51.920 this new arrow flow design you look at 00:03:53.65000:03:53.660 the core it looks like you have a pretty 00:03:56.11000:03:56.120 high density thin pitch you want to tell 00:03:58.80900:03:58.819 me about that so one of the benefits of 00:04:01.18000:04:01.190 having a wind tunnel in house is that 00:04:03.40000:04:03.410 we're able to test all of our cores and 00:04:06.33900:04:06.349 the type of velocity doesn't normally be 00:04:08.25900:04:08.269 going through a oil cooler so we've 00:04:10.90000:04:10.910 optimized the fin pinch on this to be a 00:04:13.33000:04:13.340 I density multi louver and staggered 00:04:15.85000:04:15.860 design so that helps dissipate the air 00:04:18.94000:04:18.950 through the core like you said earlier 00:04:20.77000:04:20.780 for surface area contact with the tubes 00:04:22.81000:04:22.820 and that allows for really proper 00:04:25.27000:04:25.280 cooling when it comes to you know a 00:04:26.65000:04:26.660 functional oil cooler that you're gonna 00:04:27.85000:04:27.860 have maybe in a car in a in a zone where 00:04:30.21900:04:30.229 there'll be less air pressure but 00:04:32.37900:04:32.389 already being in the front of a car 00:04:33.90900:04:33.919 you're gonna get with the other 00:04:36.15900:04:36.169 component that we designed into this 00:04:38.46900:04:38.479 that we think is more advantageous and 00:04:41.17000:04:41.180 you've seen a normal oil cooler a 00:04:42.96900:04:42.979 typical oil cooler may have both the 00:04:45.49000:04:45.500 inlet outlet on the top mm-hmm which is 00:04:47.44000:04:47.450 then causing you have to route one of 00:04:49.39000:04:49.400 the lines to the other one and then run 00:04:51.46000:04:51.470 it to wherever you are for your oil 00:04:53.20000:04:53.210 connection three out of these four 00:04:55.54000:04:55.550 designs are dual pass where you have the 00:04:57.90900:04:57.919 inlet and outlet on the same side so 00:04:59.74000:04:59.750 it's really easy to route your oil lines 00:05:02.05000:05:02.060 I think what I like about the way you 00:05:04.69000:05:04.700 have your oil lines coming in too is 00:05:07.39000:05:07.400 that you can get away with like you know 00:05:10.65900:05:10.669 like avoid 90-degree fittings and 180 00:05:14.11000:05:14.120 degree fittings because those always 00:05:15.67000:05:15.680 cause a big pressure drop yeah so one 00:05:18.76000:05:18.770 thing like you said you'll have larger 00:05:21.15900:05:21.169 pressure drop the more angles and bends 00:05:22.81000:05:22.820 you have but when it comes to actually 00:05:25.24000:05:25.250 find fittings for your oil system this 00:05:28.00000:05:28.010 is going to make it more economical 00:05:30.04000:05:30.050 you're not gonna have to buy different 00:05:31.99000:05:32.000 types of like you said 90s or 180s just 00:05:35.26000:05:35.270 to be able to route this correctly you 00:05:36.90900:05:36.919 can literally take one line right into 00:05:38.71000:05:38.720 the cooler 00:05:39.76000:05:39.770 three of these four coolers have em 22 00:05:41.86000:05:41.870 by 1.5 fittings which is the standard 00:05:44.44000:05:44.450 metric female thread than you would get 00:05:46.45000:05:46.460 from most oil coolers out there in the 00:05:47.86000:05:47.870 market so it's really easy just to put 00:05:49.90000:05:49.910 your lines right into the cooler or 00:05:51.55000:05:51.560 you know just a 45 or something else 00:05:53.44000:05:53.450 that would be better for flow of the oil 00:05:55.33000:05:55.340 yeah that's really cool let's talk about 00:05:58.00000:05:58.010 each individual cooler of the range of 00:05:59.86000:05:59.870 four and I can just point out some small 00:06:01.51000:06:01.520 different variations and you know talk a 00:06:03.64000:06:03.650 little bit more about the specifics the 00:06:05.68000:06:05.690 smallest one that we have is our part 00:06:07.99000:06:08.000 number eight one one nine and this is a 00:06:10.72000:06:10.730 really nice cooler it's small its 00:06:12.37000:06:12.380 compact we have this underneath the 00:06:15.49000:06:15.500 passenger headlight for our Evo X and 00:06:18.28000:06:18.290 we're using this as a supplementary oil 00:06:19.96000:06:19.970 cooler what's nice about it it's a dual 00:06:22.78000:06:22.790 pass it's got the M 22 by 1.5 female 00:06:25.78000:06:25.790 fittings and it's about 20 inches long 00:06:29.17000:06:29.180 and about five inches tall two and a 00:06:31.48000:06:31.490 quarter inches thick so it can fit in a 00:06:33.64000:06:33.650 lot of different spots if you just need 00:06:35.74000:06:35.750 a little bit more oil cooling for 00:06:37.09000:06:37.100 whatever you're doing maybe you want to 00:06:38.26000:06:38.270 use as a power steering cooler or 00:06:39.55000:06:39.560 transmission oil cooler this is a really 00:06:41.50000:06:41.510 great choice especially if you're 00:06:42.76000:06:42.770 limited with space the dual pass is a 00:06:46.33000:06:46.340 good feature because generally when you 00:06:49.12000:06:49.130 go do a pass you pick up about fifteen 00:06:51.34000:06:51.350 to twenty percent more efficiency for 00:06:53.92000:06:53.930 the exact same sized car right yeah it's 00:06:56.80000:06:56.810 more efficient and like we touched on 00:06:58.63000:06:58.640 earlier it's really easy with the 00:07:00.21900:07:00.229 routing of the lines you have the inlet 00:07:01.84000:07:01.850 and outlet really close to each other so 00:07:03.40000:07:03.410 it's going to be real easy to put it to 00:07:05.89000:07:05.900 wherever you want a lot of guys are 00:07:07.06000:07:07.070 gonna come in a compact space that's 00:07:08.59000:07:08.600 tight that just makes a little easier 00:07:10.24000:07:10.250 also why don't you show our viewers what 00:07:12.79000:07:12.800 we mean by dual pass exactly sure so you 00:07:16.12000:07:16.130 know this being a universal fit that can 00:07:18.64000:07:18.650 be up and down but the basic concept is 00:07:21.10000:07:21.110 the oil goes in one way there's a 00:07:23.50000:07:23.510 separator in the tank as you can see 00:07:25.06000:07:25.070 with this weld line so the oil would go 00:07:26.89000:07:26.900 through the top section and then come 00:07:28.39000:07:28.400 around the bottom and exit out the other 00:07:30.19000:07:30.200 side so once I would be the inlet and 00:07:31.84000:07:31.850 once I would be the outlet and it kind 00:07:33.67000:07:33.680 of has way more time in the core to cool 00:07:36.04000:07:36.050 down and that's where you pick up the 00:07:37.60000:07:37.610 efficiency 00:07:39.34000:07:39.350 you know a lot of people probably don't 00:07:42.02000:07:42.030 know what that is and they hear it's 00:07:43.58000:07:43.590 talked about all the time but I think 00:07:45.41000:07:45.420 it's a great thing because it's almost 00:07:46.94000:07:46.950 getting something for nothing yeah you 00:07:49.13000:07:49.140 know you get you get better fitment 00:07:51.26000:07:51.270 easier routing the lines plus better 00:07:53.15000:07:53.160 performance so it's a really nice 00:07:54.44000:07:54.450 package that we've been able to develop 00:07:55.85000:07:55.860 with this part number eight one one 00:07:57.11000:07:57.120 knife that's awesome you know moving to 00:07:59.66000:07:59.670 the back one this one's a little bit 00:08:01.22000:08:01.230 different than the other three in our 00:08:02.78000:08:02.790 range the thing that's most noticeable 00:08:05.36000:08:05.370 is that we have actually built in - ten 00:08:08.33000:08:08.340 male fittings again though a dual pass a 00:08:11.72000:08:11.730 little bit longer but cooler this is 00:08:13.46000:08:13.470 about 20 inches long and about five 00:08:15.89000:08:15.900 inches tall and two and a quarter inches 00:08:19.13000:08:19.140 wide so this has got eight rows of 00:08:20.69000:08:20.700 cooling just like a smaller one this one 00:08:23.48000:08:23.490 was the first one that we came out with 00:08:25.04000:08:25.050 about a year ago and it was received 00:08:27.59000:08:27.600 very well in the aftermarket a lot of 00:08:29.27000:08:29.280 guys were using these outside of the 00:08:31.31000:08:31.320 front bumper you know because they 00:08:33.23000:08:33.240 realize you could take a lot of rock 00:08:34.58000:08:34.590 chips and debris and this hasn't dubbed 00:08:37.28000:08:37.290 our boss oil cooler because a lot of the 00:08:39.05000:08:39.060 guys were we're really happy with this 00:08:40.96900:08:40.979 one 00:08:41.21000:08:41.220 so what I like is by adding the end 00:08:44.78000:08:44.790 right on there yeah you get rid of one 00:08:47.42000:08:47.430 place that could fail or leak you also 00:08:49.67000:08:49.680 don't have to buy two two fittings yeah 00:08:52.61000:08:52.620 you know you're you're saving about 40 00:08:54.68000:08:54.690 50 bucks just some fittings right there 00:08:56.24000:08:56.250 on the price of the cooler the part 00:08:58.25000:08:58.260 number is at eighty sixty six so eight 00:08:59.96000:08:59.970 zero six six and this cooler retails for 00:09:02.54000:09:02.550 339 yeah that's a great idea you know 00:09:06.65000:09:06.660 and then moving over to the left side 00:09:08.23000:09:08.240 these are the two oil coolers that are 00:09:11.21000:09:11.220 both universal style oil coolers what we 00:09:13.25000:09:13.260 developed them specifically for the 00:09:14.63000:09:14.640 Porsche aftermarket for guys who want to 00:09:16.52000:09:16.530 run a center oil cooler the biggest 00:09:19.13000:09:19.140 difference between these is one is a 00:09:21.26000:09:21.270 dual pass more of an RS style wear like 00:09:24.59000:09:24.600 again you know the oil is going in 00:09:25.94000:09:25.950 through one side and coming out their 00:09:27.26000:09:27.270 other side 00:09:27.72000:09:27.730 returned this one is a little bit more 00:09:31.31900:09:31.329 rare as you can see the fitment it's a 00:09:33.66000:09:33.670 single pass so it all goes in on one 00:09:35.55000:09:35.560 side and comes out on the other side for 00:09:37.76900:09:37.779 more of an rxr style for a really 00:09:39.68900:09:39.699 heavy-duty oil coin for a guy that may 00:09:41.57900:09:41.589 have to run three oil coolers in the 00:09:43.05000:09:43.060 series so we're pretty excited about 00:09:45.56900:09:45.579 both of these these are slightly larger 00:09:47.87900:09:47.889 than the other two oil coolers they're 00:09:49.74000:09:49.750 about six inches tall and about ten rows 00:09:52.68000:09:52.690 of cooling so the part numbers for these 00:09:55.23000:09:55.240 is eight one one zero and these and this 00:09:59.00900:09:59.019 one is eight one one one 00:10:01.17000:10:01.180 they both retail for $5.99 I really like 00:10:04.19900:10:04.209 these mounting blocks they're a solidly 00:10:06.30000:10:06.310 TIG welded in there the way that these 00:10:08.49000:10:08.500 have flush mounting pads on the bottom 00:10:10.41000:10:10.420 and top of the cooler so it allows it to 00:10:12.06000:10:12.070 be mounted in multiple different ways 00:10:14.09000:10:14.100 the mounting configuration most oil 00:10:17.31000:10:17.320 coolers well we have two we've put a 00:10:19.23000:10:19.240 triangular pad so it's better for 00:10:21.84000:10:21.850 reinforcement you can design your 00:10:24.32900:10:24.339 mounting bracket in multiple different 00:10:25.65000:10:25.660 ways to install these and do you have 00:10:28.07900:10:28.089 like steel threaded inserts there yeah 00:10:30.18000:10:30.190 they're actually helicoil is in there 00:10:32.06900:10:32.079 too for additional strength you know 00:10:33.62900:10:33.639 that's that's a great added touch you 00:10:35.57900:10:35.589 know like a lot of times when you have a 00:10:37.25900:10:37.269 like the aluminum threads they could 00:10:38.93900:10:38.949 pull out and having the steel thread 00:10:41.57900:10:41.589 already and there that makes it super 00:10:43.35000:10:43.360 bulletproof we get a lot of feedback 00:10:45.00000:10:45.010 from our R&D partners and our race teams 00:10:47.49000:10:47.500 that we work with and you know they're 00:10:49.11000:10:49.120 all about reliability so when we get the 00:10:52.47000:10:52.480 feedback we really try to implement it 00:10:54.03000:10:54.040 to whatever new designs were coming out 00:10:55.65000:10:55.660 with and we're always about pushing the 00:10:57.03000:10:57.040 edge as well when it comes to cooling 00:10:58.35000:10:58.360 technologies I mean one of the things 00:11:00.26900:11:00.279 that I could see is a big advantage here 00:11:02.69900:11:02.709 is your typical oil cooler like all the 00:11:05.73000:11:05.740 guys mount them like on those little 00:11:07.68000:11:07.690 cheesy ears that are on there and they 00:11:09.84000:11:09.850 usually crack or vibrate apart and the 00:11:13.01900:11:13.029 correct way to mount those is you have 00:11:14.63900:11:14.649 to kind of have a 00:11:15.51000:11:15.520 Everitt kind of clamshell that keeps the 00:11:17.97000:11:17.980 cooler in tension and usually you have 00:11:21.42000:11:21.430 to fabricate that and you know it's kind 00:11:24.93000:11:24.940 of paying the a stiff if you useless 00:11:27.72000:11:27.730 mounting tabs that look like they're 00:11:29.37000:11:29.380 mounting tabs they're not really 00:11:30.84000:11:30.850 mounting tabs and usually the cooler 00:11:33.09000:11:33.100 will fail and this solves like a bunch 00:11:36.51000:11:36.520 of headaches you can make a simple 00:11:37.98000:11:37.990 bracket just hang the cooler you can 00:11:41.43000:11:41.440 just hang it on two ends or from the 00:11:43.50000:11:43.510 bottom and that gives you tremendous 00:11:45.41000:11:45.420 flexibility and you know as a car 00:11:47.61000:11:47.620 builder I cry or I could really 00:11:48.90000:11:48.910 appreciate that yeah and you know with 00:11:51.57000:11:51.580 these universal designs it doesn't just 00:11:53.31000:11:53.320 have to be mounted horizontally you can 00:11:54.75000:11:54.760 mount it vertically as well and then use 00:11:56.73000:11:56.740 a mounting pad on the top and bottom you 00:11:58.80000:11:58.810 can put it into a V mount configuration 00:12:00.21000:12:00.220 you can put it parallel if you want to 00:12:02.73000:12:02.740 be able to you know duct the air down 00:12:04.35000:12:04.360 through the bottom of the car so there's 00:12:06.72000:12:06.730 a lot of different things that we 00:12:08.04000:12:08.050 thought about when we went into the 00:12:09.96000:12:09.970 design of well how is it going to be 00:12:11.04000:12:11.050 mounted how is the oil going to be 00:12:12.72000:12:12.730 routed you know with these two larger 00:12:15.57000:12:15.580 oil coolers that we've developed 00:12:17.10000:12:17.110 we actually had Porsche oil cooling in 00:12:20.82000:12:20.830 mind and these are used in the Iraq 00:12:23.58000:12:23.590 style 00:12:24.12000:12:24.130 air-cooled bumpers and on front Center 00:12:26.37000:12:26.380 oil cooler so these angles which are 15 00:12:29.28000:12:29.290 degrees just a slight taper it actually 00:12:31.89000:12:31.900 helps with mounting this completely 00:12:34.02000:12:34.030 flush into the front bumper of a old 00:12:36.06000:12:36.070 air-cooled Porsche I mean I think the 00:12:37.95000:12:37.960 angled mounts probably helped them out 00:12:40.16000:12:40.170 help the plumbing and everything line up 00:12:42.84000:12:42.850 better for just about anything you do 00:12:44.58000:12:44.590 actually I mean these are really awesome 00:12:48.42000:12:48.430 if you actually spent time working on 00:12:51.54000:12:51.550 cars like I think this is a great thing 00:12:54.69000:12:54.700 to speed up the installation and the 00:12:57.15000:12:57.160 reliability of everything we've used CSF 00:13:00.66000:13:00.670 extensively in our project cars in the 00:13:02.76000:13:02.770 past and we've done a lot of tests with 00:13:04.95000:13:04.960 CSF but can't wait to get some of this 00:13:07.71000:13:07.720 and 00:13:08.16000:13:08.170 our new projects and do some more 00:13:10.13900:13:10.149 testing and future articles and videos 00:13:12.48000:13:12.490 yeah definitely we're really excited 00:13:14.25000:13:14.260 about these oil coolers Mike and we 00:13:15.84000:13:15.850 appreciate all the help moto IQs given 00:13:17.46000:13:17.470 us and we are excited to get these on 00:13:19.41000:13:19.420 some of your builds and get these out to 00:13:20.73000:13:20.740 the OP t'market well thank you for 00:13:22.07900:13:22.089 coming out and talking to us today I 00:13:23.57900:13:23.589 really appreciate it and I think we got 00:13:26.12900:13:26.139 some good information for our viewers 00:13:28.01900:13:28.029 and I hope you guys found it's all 00:13:30.66000:13:30.670 interesting and informative like we're 00:13:32.61000:13:32.620 pretty stoked on these coolers and can't 00:13:35.16000:13:35.170 wait to evaluate them thanks Mike thanks 00:13:37.65000:13:37.660 Mike you if you like this video you want 00:13:40.01900:13:40.029 to see more tech be sure and click the 00:13:42.42000:13:42.430 like button down there come to moto 00:13:44.91000:13:44.920 iq.com and read all about it subscribe 00:13:48.00000:13:48.010 to our YouTube channel and we'll see you 00:13:49.94900:13:49.959 later
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