Start Capacitors & Run Capacitors for Electric Motors - Differences Explained by TEMCo

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so this video I'm gonna dress the
00:00:07.190 00:00:07.200 difference between a motor start
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00:00:13.779 00:00:13.789 there's a couple of fundamental
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00:00:25.940 00:00:25.950 capacitor will be something like this
00:00:28.970 00:00:28.980 here and it's engaged in the circuit all
00:00:31.820 00:00:31.830 the time these are often used for phase
00:00:34.100 00:00:34.110 delay or power factor correction you'll
00:00:37.189 00:00:37.199 see these a lot in HVAC units and larger
00:00:39.979 00:00:39.989 single-phase motors they're an oil
00:00:44.150 00:00:44.160 cooled they're generally in a metal case
00:00:46.040 00:00:46.050 now they're filled with oil they tend to
00:00:49.400 00:00:49.410 be fairly low capacitance rating so an
00:00:54.170 00:00:54.180 example here I've got 15 micro farad's
00:00:57.400 00:00:57.410 this one here is 5 micro farad's fairly
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00:01:04.219 00:01:04.229 all that's really necessary often for
00:01:06.200 00:01:06.210 the for the run operation on a motor now
00:01:08.990 00:01:09.000 a start capacitor on the other hand
00:01:11.060 00:01:11.070 these tend to be a bit larger both
00:01:13.850 00:01:13.860 physically although always but they're
00:01:17.719 00:01:17.729 also larger in capacitance values so for
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00:01:28.700 00:01:28.710 these capacitors start capacitor to have
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00:01:33.320 00:01:33.330 times that's because the phase shift
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00:01:47.090 00:01:47.100 generate a fairly large shift in order
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00:01:51.550 00:01:51.560 internally on these you have pretty much
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00:02:04.580 00:02:04.590 anyway and you'll generate a charge on
00:02:07.760 00:02:07.770 one and it it transfers to the other in
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00:02:15.739 00:02:15.749 hold like a battery now these
00:02:18.180 00:02:18.190 Pasteur's motor start and run capacitors
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00:02:22.440 00:02:22.450 look on the label of these you'll see
00:02:24.330 00:02:24.340 the voltage rating here so for example
00:02:26.970 00:02:26.980 this one says here 250 volts ac a
00:02:30.900 00:02:30.910 littler one here 220 to 250 volts and on
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00:02:38.180 00:02:38.190 when you're sizing up capacitors if
00:02:40.770 00:02:40.780 you're not replacing one already if
00:02:42.900 00:02:42.910 you're just sizing one to start with you
00:02:45.180 00:02:45.190 want to make sure that the voltage
00:02:47.310 00:02:47.320 rating of your capacitor is about one
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00:02:51.060 00:02:51.070 this is because the voltage ratings on
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00:02:57.780 00:02:57.790 voltage on a 240 volt system run
00:03:01.680 00:03:01.690 capacitors you'll see 370 to 440 volts
00:03:05.750 00:03:05.760 480 volt systems you'll often see 600
00:03:08.760 00:03:08.770 volt rated capacitors used on those and
00:03:10.950 00:03:10.960 it's just to account for the extra peak
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00:03:16.710 00:03:16.720 that that are present in such a thing
00:03:19.100 00:03:19.110 now the other big difference between
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00:03:28.410 00:03:28.420 capacitors are a hundred percent duty
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00:03:31.920 00:03:31.930 indefinitely charged up so in this case
00:03:34.860 00:03:34.870 if I have my I have my box here 240
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00:03:45.140 00:03:45.150 I can switch this on if we measure it
00:03:48.780 00:03:48.790 here we can put our voltmeter on AC and
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00:03:52.920 00:03:52.930 on the terminals right there get 244
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00:04:01.620 00:04:01.630 just leave here like I said one hundred
00:04:02.970 00:04:02.980 percent duty cycle you can leave it on
00:04:04.620 00:04:04.630 and just in there if you had a motor
00:04:07.910 00:04:07.920 running with this or your air
00:04:09.930 00:04:09.940 conditioner pump or something along
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00:04:13.590 00:04:13.600 this kind of capacitor it just is left
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00:04:20.860 00:04:20.870 you can use motor run capacitors as
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00:04:39.400 00:04:39.410 the disadvantage to using motor run
00:04:41.980 00:04:41.990 capacitors as they start up in the
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00:04:46.000 00:04:46.010 the motor to be able to develop torque
00:04:47.320 00:04:47.330 you need a very high capacitance value
00:04:49.510 00:04:49.520 to get 150 or 400 micro farad's out of
00:04:53.500 00:04:53.510 15 micro farad capacitors you'd need an
00:04:56.200 00:04:56.210 entire array of these if you've got the
00:04:57.939 00:04:57.949 space for that then that would work out
00:05:00.850 00:05:00.860 fine for you now and this is still
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00:05:05.320 00:05:05.330 there's there's no effect of having this
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00:05:09.129 00:05:09.139 ahead and turn that off and I'm going to
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00:05:19.840 00:05:19.850 there's no voltage left on it I don't
00:05:22.900 00:05:22.910 want to get shocked there we go
00:05:25.120 00:05:25.130 set the meter to DC because when you
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00:05:28.450 00:05:28.460 my other video on start caps about
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00:05:31.750 00:05:31.760 you'll see that when you turn these off
00:05:34.180 00:05:34.190 if you turn them off during a period in
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00:05:40.810 00:05:40.820 crossing these can actually store a DC
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00:05:46.089 00:05:46.099 show you the start capacitor and when we
00:05:48.700 00:05:48.710 put a start capacitor into a
00:05:51.640 00:05:51.650 current-carrying circuit here it's good
00:05:54.189 00:05:54.199 for a couple of seconds now a lot of
00:05:57.490 00:05:57.500 times the failure of these will be two -
00:06:00.460 00:06:00.470 an overloaded motor or a motor that
00:06:02.860 00:06:02.870 doesn't start up all the way or if you
00:06:05.110 00:06:05.120 have the centrifugal cutout switch that
00:06:07.180 00:06:07.190 doesn't cut out in time and it holds the
00:06:09.279 00:06:09.289 capacitor in the circuit too long well
00:06:13.710 00:06:13.720 let's show you what happens here safety
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00:06:36.130 00:06:36.140 when you leave these things engaged for
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00:06:46.000 00:06:46.010 you find you find something like this
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00:06:50.380 00:06:50.390 we carry a full line of replacement
00:06:51.970 00:06:51.980 capacitors it's area code five one zero
00:06:54.040 00:06:54.050 four zero three four zero six one and
00:06:57.520 00:06:57.530 we'd be happy to hook you up with some
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00:07:18.220 00:07:18.230 I'll blow something else up
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