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Tech Talk with John Wilson from Ravenheat plate heat exchangers
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00:00:00.060 good morning guys John Wilson um I'm 00:00:04.01000:00:04.020 back again I just want to do a video on 00:00:08.89000:00:08.900 removal of plenty text changes or 00:00:11.27000:00:11.280 basically the unnecessary to remove 00:00:13.31000:00:13.320 blood play key text changes and one of 00:00:16.31000:00:16.320 the major call-outs that you guys get is 00:00:20.30000:00:20.310 fluctuating hot water with a basic - the 00:00:22.73000:00:22.740 waters were in hot and cold and your 00:00:24.98000:00:24.990 customer can be jumping in as a shower 00:00:26.90000:00:26.910 like a rabbit's nose in and out in and 00:00:29.02900:00:29.039 out hot cold hot cold well obviously not 00:00:32.51000:00:32.520 t-shirt is soaked eggs in any shape or 00:00:34.13000:00:34.140 form but that's usually down to a block 00:00:36.31900:00:36.329 plate heat exchanger and that block 00:00:38.09000:00:38.100 block plate he tested is not a boiler 00:00:39.88900:00:39.899 fault it's deadly that's within the heat 00:00:41.78000:00:41.790 exchanger I've done some some drawings 00:00:46.58000:00:46.590 here to play pedestrians and I've got a 00:00:48.36900:00:48.379 down heat exchanger for you guys 00:00:50.99000:00:51.000 just to look at now here we've got a 00:00:54.20000:00:54.210 plate heat exchanger of 82 degrees 00:00:56.06000:00:56.070 coming in and let's say for instance Flo 00:01:00.22900:01:00.239 86 coming out really that can't happen 00:01:03.77000:01:03.780 but we'll address that shortly here 00:01:06.35000:01:06.360 we've got a heat exchange with 80 00:01:07.73000:01:07.740 degrees C coming in and 70 degrees C 00:01:10.21900:01:10.229 coming out here we've got 81 degrees C 00:01:13.39900:01:13.409 coming in and 45 degrees C coming out 00:01:16.69000:01:16.700 now these two differential clumps here 00:01:20.96000:01:20.970 guys these are clumped on to a piece of 00:01:23.48000:01:23.490 copper pipe so basically the 00:01:26.06000:01:26.070 differential between these two the the 00:01:28.13000:01:28.140 instrumentation that we color is not 00:01:29.96000:01:29.970 accurate enough to get a readable for 00:01:31.73000:01:31.740 the differential because it's a pipe so 00:01:33.77000:01:33.780 the temperature is the same across that 00:01:35.42000:01:35.430 pipe when we're doing a differential 00:01:37.28000:01:37.290 reading when we've come to a heat 00:01:39.44000:01:39.450 exchanger heat exchanger in its own 00:01:41.78000:01:41.790 definition it exchanges heat that's what 00:01:44.21000:01:44.220 it does okay 00:01:45.41000:01:45.420 now the reason for this violet well you 00:01:48.95000:01:48.960 will you've got a boil that's firing up 00:01:50.33000:01:50.340 and dropping out going hot and cold 00:01:51.74000:01:51.750 always make sure that the burner is 00:01:53.53900:01:53.549 actually dropping out guys this 82 00:01:56.89900:01:56.909 degree C is very very important and if 00:01:59.45000:01:59.460 we looked at these heat exchangers this 00:02:01.55000:02:01.560 one is one that's working there is a 00:02:03.13900:02:03.149 level of debris in this one but this one 00:02:05.66000:02:05.670 is working pretty decent because we've 00:02:07.52000:02:07.530 got 81 degrees C coming in 00:02:09.77000:02:09.780 and 45 degrees say coming out this one 00:02:12.44000:02:12.450 is way off because we've only got a 10 00:02:14.48000:02:14.490 degree differential so basically it's 00:02:16.76000:02:16.770 not becoming a heat exchangers becoming 00:02:18.59000:02:18.600 a pipe and this one is very involved 00:02:20.80900:02:20.819 with a 2 degree C coming in and a hotter 00:02:22.76000:02:22.770 temperature coming out now we exchange 00:02:26.47900:02:26.489 the water the cold water comes into the 00:02:28.25000:02:28.260 heat exchanger the flow from the space 00:02:30.89000:02:30.900 heating as the diverter valve moves 00:02:33.14000:02:33.150 across obviously we're getting the 00:02:34.85000:02:34.860 transfer of heat okay now as the level 00:02:38.75000:02:38.760 of debris comes more severe in this heat 00:02:41.24000:02:41.250 exchanger the differential temperature 00:02:43.19000:02:43.200 gets less and less and less and just 00:02:46.43000:02:46.440 just to put it in simple terms basically 00:02:48.32000:02:48.330 all we're doing guys we're changing the 00:02:50.63000:02:50.640 heat exchanger into a pipe and why are 00:02:52.97000:02:52.980 we turning into a fight because we just 00:02:54.65000:02:54.660 will get to the stage where one single 00:02:56.36000:02:56.370 track through the heat exchanger so it's 00:02:58.37000:02:58.380 no longer an exchange in heat so the 00:03:00.53000:03:00.540 course of action there's take the heat 00:03:02.27000:03:02.280 exchanger out and give it a good 00:03:03.55900:03:03.569 planners now the reason for the video 00:03:06.44000:03:06.450 guys is there is so many plate exchanges 00:03:09.89000:03:09.900 that take now unnecessary and how many 00:03:12.25900:03:12.269 times have you done it where you've been 00:03:14.09000:03:14.100 with your customer you value Bukit 00:03:15.92000:03:15.930 they're ready to show the custom of the 00:03:17.44900:03:17.459 debris and surprise surprise you look at 00:03:19.78900:03:19.799 cloud because there's no debris in there 00:03:21.41000:03:21.420 well there's a couple of checks that you 00:03:23.60000:03:23.610 need to do before you start dragging 00:03:25.28000:03:25.290 plate experiences out the boilers and it 00:03:27.65000:03:27.660 will save you a lot of time if you if 00:03:29.24000:03:29.250 you heed what I'm saying now on a boiler 00:03:32.78000:03:32.790 we have the space heating the midst of 00:03:34.43000:03:34.440 the primary thermistor what you'll call 00:03:36.05000:03:36.060 and this is on the the central heating 00:03:38.27000:03:38.280 flow when the diverter valves in the 00:03:40.69900:03:40.709 heating mode this pipe supplies this 00:03:42.47000:03:42.480 space heating women in domestic hot 00:03:44.21000:03:44.220 water the diverter valve mechanism moves 00:03:46.64000:03:46.650 across and we move it to supply the 00:03:49.00900:03:49.019 plate now the central heating thermistor 00:03:51.65000:03:51.660 has three functions the first function 00:03:54.71000:03:54.720 is for temperature and modulation of the 00:03:56.30000:03:56.310 heating the second function is built-in 00:03:59.75000:03:59.760 frost protection at 10 degrees the pump 00:04:01.84900:04:01.859 energizes at 5 degrees of the burner 00:04:04.37000:04:04.380 will fire and raise it to 25 degrees C 00:04:07.06900:04:07.079 so it's 5 stanton frost on one and 00:04:09.19900:04:09.209 that's across most vile as these days 00:04:11.06000:04:11.070 now 00:04:12.02000:04:12.030 the third function is very important 00:04:14.33000:04:14.340 it's high limit and high limit is rated 00:04:17.53900:04:17.549 between 82 and 85 degrees and that's 00:04:20.69000:04:20.700 pretty much the standard in the industry 00:04:22.36000:04:22.370 guys so the high limit is what kicks in 00:04:25.12000:04:25.130 when the burner actually drops out so 00:04:26.95000:04:26.960 that's why the customer gets hot and 00:04:28.51000:04:28.520 cold water because it's the high limit 00:04:30.55000:04:30.560 staff that's reaching 82 because why is 00:04:33.07000:04:33.080 this getting so hot it can't dissipate 00:04:35.50000:04:35.510 the heat because the plate heat 00:04:36.79000:04:36.800 exchangers bundle with debris so that's 00:04:38.89000:04:38.900 the reason for it dropping now it's the 00:04:40.39000:04:40.400 high limit that that dictates that okay 00:04:42.79000:04:42.800 now one thing the couple of things that 00:04:45.96900:04:45.979 you must do are I'm not saying most I 00:04:49.32000:04:49.330 recommend that you do okay this isn't 00:04:52.99000:04:53.000 all that much very compliance and this 00:04:55.96000:04:55.970 is a standard holy world gas valve along 00:04:58.12000:04:58.130 this gas valve we have a plastic notes 00:05:01.00000:05:01.010 and we have a brass note okay the 00:05:03.25000:05:03.260 plastic that the blast note is the low 00:05:05.05000:05:05.060 burner pressure the plastic note is the 00:05:06.79000:05:06.800 high burner pressure now with a gas 00:05:10.60000:05:10.610 valve the high burner pressure is 00:05:12.90900:05:12.919 controlled by the thermistor and the 00:05:15.37000:05:15.380 setting the low burner pressure on Iran 00:05:17.46900:05:17.479 old atmospheric violence guys is purely 00:05:19.75000:05:19.760 a manual setting so let's say this 00:05:21.76000:05:21.770 particular boiler the low burner presses 00:05:23.89000:05:23.900 to millibar on domestic hot water and 00:05:25.68900:05:25.699 heating and the hive is 11.2 now let's 00:05:30.31000:05:30.320 say for instance that somebody has set 00:05:32.77000:05:32.780 that low burner pressure far too high if 00:05:35.02000:05:35.030 the set that far too high we've got a 00:05:37.24000:05:37.250 big problem there because basically it 00:05:40.02900:05:40.039 won't modulate so when the customers 00:05:42.40000:05:42.410 running hot water 00:05:43.24000:05:43.250 that's why there'll be problems with it 00:05:44.95000:05:44.960 going hot and cold it's not the 00:05:46.51000:05:46.520 platelets bond nope it's the low burner 00:05:48.61000:05:48.620 pressure that's too high so you've wiped 00:05:50.32000:05:50.330 out the modulation and basically the 00:05:52.27000:05:52.280 pipe with the primary thermistor will 00:05:53.95000:05:53.960 get hot and it would mimic the plate 00:05:55.93000:05:55.940 heat exchanger being blocked the other 00:05:58.36000:05:58.370 thing that you must check so that's one 00:06:00.04000:06:00.050 point to try and remember this will say 00:06:02.35000:06:02.360 the hours in your career the other thing 00:06:04.54000:06:04.550 to remember here I've got a thermistor 00:06:07.08900:06:07.099 sheet if you just pump down onto the 00:06:09.37000:06:09.380 sheet if you can if you can't get this 00:06:11.92000:06:11.930 then how the we'll gladly send it on 00:06:14.20000:06:14.210 this thermistor sheet here I've got a 00:06:15.85000:06:15.860 clip on thermistor the multimeter here 00:06:23.73000:06:23.740 one thing with multimeters I suggest if 00:06:28.15000:06:28.160 you don't Foley on
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