The Truth about the Rockefeller Oil Monopoly

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you mentioned before that oligopolies
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00:00:04.249 00:00:04.259 elaborate on this and how do you explain
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00:00:07.639 00:00:07.649 market at one point during the Gilded
00:00:09.620 00:00:09.630 Age and there's another question here
00:00:11.589 00:00:11.599 Iran did not admire Rockefeller as she
00:00:14.629 00:00:14.639 said herself I don't remember that so
00:00:17.960 00:00:17.970 he's just zero sunk to her in spite of
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00:00:25.040 00:00:25.050 Iran saying that she done admire
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00:00:39.440 00:00:39.450 Rockefeller had technically based on I
00:00:42.110 00:00:42.120 think still e economics he had a
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00:00:53.510 00:00:53.520 you have I think monopolies and
00:00:56.529 00:00:56.539 monopolies and oligopolies a defined
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00:01:03.529 00:01:03.539 have government protection there's
00:01:05.329 00:01:05.339 always competition always competition so
00:01:09.289 00:01:09.299 for example we learn in economic
00:01:12.700 00:01:12.710 textbooks that if you have a 90 percent
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00:01:23.870 00:01:23.880 the hell you you you raise prices above
00:01:27.460 00:01:27.470 you know your marginal cost you you
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00:01:41.240 00:01:41.250 look at the evidence there's plenty of
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00:01:44.380 00:01:44.390 there's an essay that Alex Epstein wrote
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00:01:53.420 00:01:53.430 search and you'll find it but also I
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00:02:01.520 00:02:01.530 which is a book by Robert I'm not sure
00:02:05.810 00:02:05.820 if it's Robert it's Folsom by Folsom who
00:02:08.510 00:02:08.520 that that you know describes what
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00:02:13.699 00:02:13.709 Rockefeller decreased prices every
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00:02:52.990 00:02:53.000 primarily Burton Folsom boots and Folsom
00:02:56.479 00:02:56.489 be you RTO and Folsom fos fol som that
00:03:01.780 00:03:01.790 is I recommend all his books myth of the
00:03:05.059 00:03:05.069 robber baron is the is is the best but
00:03:08.390 00:03:08.400 they're all excellent everything he
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00:03:10.970 00:03:10.980 interested in economic history anyway
00:03:13.839 00:03:13.849 why did he do it cuz he knew there was
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00:03:18.199 00:03:18.209 what he was producing well if you look
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00:04:02.479 00:04:02.489 compete him out of their business and by
00:04:04.129 00:04:04.139 the way by the time Rockefellers
00:04:06.920 00:04:06.930 Standard Oil was broken up I think it
00:04:09.530 00:04:09.540 was the 1920s he had gone from ninety
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00:04:33.689 00:04:33.699 the most innovative entrepreneurs in all
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00:04:36.180 00:04:36.190 he should be massively admired now maybe
00:04:40.920 00:04:40.930 there's some reason not to admire him
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00:05:01.770 00:05:01.780 was one of the Giants so what if he had
00:05:03.540 00:05:03.550 90% my point is not that a business will
00:05:07.680 00:05:07.690 not dominate an industry my point is
00:05:10.290 00:05:10.300 that that domination is not bad just
00:05:12.270 00:05:12.280 like Google today dominate search but
00:05:15.540 00:05:15.550 how much does it charge you for that
00:05:16.710 00:05:16.720 search zero and if you think it has a
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00:05:24.149 00:05:24.159 that is too narrow does it have a
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00:05:28.619 00:05:28.629 no people have lots of choices when it
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00:05:44.010 00:05:44.020 mean a liberal dose he'll have to give
00:05:46.050 00:05:46.060 me a reference for where iron man says
00:05:47.519 00:05:47.529 she doesn't she didn't like Rockefeller
00:05:49.589 00:05:49.599 I don't remember that I'm not saying
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00:05:57.050 00:05:57.060 that's my answer monopolies and I've
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00:06:02.519 00:06:02.529 monopoly and you'll get generally if you
00:06:06.450 00:06:06.460 have questions a lot of times if you
00:06:08.519 00:06:08.529 just type my name in and the question
00:06:10.110 00:06:10.120 I've already answered it for a lot of it
00:06:12.240 00:06:12.250 right when you say the society has no
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00:06:18.529 00:06:18.539 individuals have a responsibility to
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00:06:26.129 00:06:26.139 well what should we say that helped me
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00:06:47.019 00:06:47.029 society there is no such scene a society
00:06:49.869 00:06:49.879 you know it's all of us now how can we
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00:07:07.809 00:07:07.819 what is impossible to them so it doesn't
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00:07:40.779 00:07:40.789 and cannot assume it it's a big heavy
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00:07:59.170 00:07:59.180 they'll make their own way just so you
00:08:01.149 00:08:01.159 don't stop them but the private charity
00:08:06.760 00:08:06.770 cannot be done by means of tax
00:08:09.070 00:08:09.080 collection which means by for private
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00:08:21.969 00:08:21.979 the sacrifice of your own child you
00:08:25.149 00:08:25.159 probably like to get rid of hgw then Oh
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00:08:46.550 00:08:46.560 you thought well everybody says that
00:08:49.680 00:08:49.690 it's a little hard to put that into
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00:08:59.340 00:08:59.350 that not to a few rich to many poor I
00:09:02.190 00:09:02.200 will I will give you part of that
00:09:04.260 00:09:04.270 because if there is about distribution
00:09:06.630 00:09:06.640 it's to those who have political poo
00:09:09.450 00:09:09.460 if some of your money is made with
00:09:11.340 00:09:11.350 government help and that will pay
00:09:13.500 00:09:13.510 favoritism then I grant you that is
00:09:16.500 00:09:16.510 unfair and improper and unjust but if
00:09:19.710 00:09:19.720 you made it yourself in free competition
00:09:21.870 00:09:21.880 enough people want to pay you for your
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00:09:27.510 00:09:27.520 keep all of it why shouldn't you you
00:09:29.190 00:09:29.200 made if the Middle Eastern countries
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00:09:42.270 00:09:42.280 because made $5 well that day ever be
00:09:44.430 00:09:44.440 back they ought to be able to do it it's
00:09:46.170 00:09:46.180 their oil is that your point no my point
00:09:48.990 00:09:49.000 is we should not have permitted
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00:10:04.670 00:10:04.680 as we are now moving towards complete
00:10:07.500 00:10:07.510 collectivism or socialism a system under
00:10:11.940 00:10:11.950 which everybody is enslaved to everybody
00:10:14.640 00:10:14.650 and we are moving that way only because
00:10:17.190 00:10:17.200 of our ultras morale yes but you say
00:10:19.770 00:10:19.780 everybody is enslaved to everybody yet
00:10:22.440 00:10:22.450 this came about democratically I and the
00:10:24.630 00:10:24.640 free people in a free country voted for
00:10:27.330 00:10:27.340 this kind of government wanted this kind
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00:10:31.590 00:10:31.600 democratic process I object to the idea
00:10:35.030 00:10:35.040 that people have the right to vote on
00:10:38.250 00:10:38.260 everything they a traditional American
00:10:41.300 00:10:41.310 system was a system based on the idea
00:10:44.760 00:10:44.770 that majority will prevailed only in
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00:10:50.370 00:10:50.380 was limited by inalienable individual
00:10:53.160 00:10:53.170 rights therefore I do not believe that a
00:10:55.650 00:10:55.660 majority can vote a man's life or
00:10:58.650 00:10:58.660 property or freedom away from him and
00:11:02.190 00:11:02.200 therefore I do not believe that if a
00:11:04.500 00:11:04.510 majority votes on any issue that this
00:11:07.590 00:11:07.600 makes the issue right it doesn't all
00:11:09.690 00:11:09.700 right then how do we arrive at action
00:11:12.300 00:11:12.310 how should we arrive at action by
00:11:15.360 00:11:15.370 voluntary consent voluntary cooperation
00:11:17.520 00:11:17.530 of freemen unforced initial the powers
00:11:20.700 00:11:20.710 of government are strictly limited they
00:11:22.950 00:11:22.960 will have no right to initiate force or
00:11:26.580 00:11:26.590 compulsion against any citizen except a
00:11:30.270 00:11:30.280 criminal those who have initiated first
00:11:33.330 00:11:33.340 will be punished by force and that is
00:11:35.700 00:11:35.710 the only proper function of government
00:11:37.070 00:11:37.080 what we would not permit is the
00:11:39.450 00:11:39.460 government to initiate force against
00:11:42.390 00:11:42.400 people who have heard no one who have
00:11:45.030 00:11:45.040 not forced anyone we would not give the
00:11:47.760 00:11:47.770 government or the majority or any
00:11:49.560 00:11:49.570 minority the right to take the life or
00:11:52.980 00:11:52.990 the property of others that was the
00:11:54.990 00:11:55.000 original American system when you say
00:11:57.080 00:11:57.090 take the property of others I imagine
00:12:00.120 00:12:00.130 that you're talking now about taxes Sam
00:12:02.280 00:12:02.290 and you believe that there should be no
00:12:04.290 00:12:04.300 right by the government to tax you
00:12:07.230 00:12:07.240 believe that there should be no such
00:12:08.460 00:12:08.470 thing as welfare legislation
00:12:10.760 00:12:10.770 unemployment compensation
00:12:13.140 00:12:13.150 regulation during times of stress
00:12:15.060 00:12:15.070 certain kinds of rent controls and
00:12:17.400 00:12:17.410 things like that that's right I'm
00:12:18.810 00:12:18.820 opposed to all forms of control I am for
00:12:23.220 00:12:23.230 an absolute let's say fair free
00:12:25.620 00:12:25.630 unregulated economy let me put it
00:12:28.680 00:12:28.690 briefly I'm for the separation of state
00:12:31.530 00:12:31.540 and economics just as we had separation
00:12:34.140 00:12:34.150 of state and church which led to
00:12:37.260 00:12:37.270 peaceful coexistence among different
00:12:39.750 00:12:39.760 religions after a period of religious
00:12:42.840 00:12:42.850 wars so the same applies to economics if
00:12:45.990 00:12:46.000 you separate the government from
00:12:47.760 00:12:47.770 economics if you do not regulate
00:12:50.220 00:12:50.230 production and trade you will have
00:12:52.590 00:12:52.600 peaceful cooperation and harmony and
00:12:55.320 00:12:55.330 justice among men
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