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Vape Cartridges - Contaminants, Open Standards and Proprietary Systems
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00:00:00.000 [Music] 00:00:04.67000:00:04.680 you have a history in vape cartridges 00:00:08.76000:00:08.770 yes from your days slinging nicotine so 00:00:11.52000:00:11.530 now you're slinging weeds so that's true 00:00:13.70900:00:13.719 so talk about kind of the evolution and 00:00:16.17000:00:16.180 what you've seen and then maybe some of 00:00:18.81000:00:18.820 the toxicity issues we were hearing 00:00:20.85000:00:20.860 about now yeah so I mean as far as 00:00:23.64000:00:23.650 toxicity goes with a lot of the vape 00:00:27.06000:00:27.070 hardware that's available in the THC 00:00:29.34000:00:29.350 space what a lot of the consumers don't 00:00:33.33000:00:33.340 understand is that each of the products 00:00:37.59000:00:37.600 aren't made equally so it ultimately 00:00:40.34900:00:40.359 comes down to the original source of the 00:00:42.98900:00:42.999 raw material so the same with steel the 00:00:45.00000:00:45.010 brass the ceramic there's a you know 00:00:51.14900:00:51.159 there's there's a good and bad for 00:00:53.00900:00:53.019 everything you know you can buy cheap 00:00:54.56900:00:54.579 metal where you can buy expensive metal 00:00:57.13900:00:57.149 the biggest thing is you know all flour 00:01:03.02900:01:03.039 and extraction processes are different 00:01:05.78900:01:05.799 across the board you know you have guys 00:01:07.68000:01:07.690 using butane you have you guys using dry 00:01:09.95900:01:09.969 ice 00:01:11.10000:01:11.110 you guys have using co2 and that all 00:01:15.14900:01:15.159 reacts differently with different metals 00:01:18.41000:01:18.420 so the biggest thing is when you do send 00:01:21.89900:01:21.909 a cartridge to get tested for have heavy 00:01:24.24000:01:24.250 metals and it comes back as a fail what 00:01:27.27000:01:27.280 ends up happening is the oil is etching 00:01:31.02000:01:31.030 away at the metal inside it's yeah it's 00:01:37.28900:01:37.299 pretty much leaching into the oil and 00:01:39.95000:01:39.960 this is when it comes bus or even when 00:01:43.02000:01:43.030 it's just sitting there even when it's 00:01:44.42900:01:44.439 just sitting there there you know the 00:01:46.80000:01:46.810 whole combustion process isn't as 00:01:51.16900:01:51.179 important there is there is a metal 00:01:55.34000:01:55.350 there is metal wire in there and 00:01:58.38000:01:58.390 you know that most folks don't look into 00:02:02.88000:02:02.890 that but you know we can either be a 00:02:05.49000:02:05.500 source of Kanthal stainless steel 00:02:08.96900:02:08.979 there's nickel so they all serve its 00:02:13.35000:02:13.360 purpose you know and that's just a 00:02:15.48000:02:15.490 heating element of it the ceramic itself 00:02:17.76000:02:17.770 most people have this thought of oh the 00:02:20.43000:02:20.440 ceramic heats up well there needs to be 00:02:22.29000:02:22.300 two wires that run into that ceramic to 00:02:24.75000:02:24.760 give you a positive and a negative to 00:02:28.02000:02:28.030 get an actual electric current in there 00:02:29.88000:02:29.890 but back to the heavy metals you know 00:02:33.75000:02:33.760 like I was saying even when the oil sits 00:02:36.15000:02:36.160 there it will etch away and leach from 00:02:39.21000:02:39.220 that metal so if you are using a lower 00:02:41.55000:02:41.560 quality metal or you're sourcing lower 00:02:44.04000:02:44.050 quality cartridge you can't always trust 00:02:46.94900:02:46.959 that there's a you know that that 00:02:50.49000:02:50.500 product is going to be heavy metal 00:02:52.94900:02:52.959 passing so it really comes down to the 00:02:57.72000:02:57.730 raw materials used and also to the 00:03:01.80000:03:01.810 quality control at the factory level so 00:03:04.74000:03:04.750 a lot of our products are thoroughly 00:03:07.19900:03:07.209 washed rinsed and there's a whole 00:03:11.16000:03:11.170 cleansing process for the raw material 00:03:13.71000:03:13.720 that we use before they actually get 00:03:16.44000:03:16.450 sent to the assembly line and broken 00:03:18.69000:03:18.700 down into the appropriate pieces for 00:03:21.44900:03:21.459 assembly 00:03:23.53900:03:23.549 so I mean the thing is a lot of this 00:03:27.27000:03:27.280 technology stems from the Electronic 00:03:29.52000:03:29.530 Cigarette world and a lot of where the 00:03:32.97000:03:32.980 industry may move forward will kind of 00:03:36.66000:03:36.670 follow suit of how things were in that 00:03:39.60000:03:39.610 industry you know five ten cartridges 00:03:41.82000:03:41.830 are a technology of the past in the 00:03:46.71000:03:46.720 electronic cigarette industry world but 00:03:49.32000:03:49.330 they've been repurposed for a reason you 00:03:51.90000:03:51.910 know better ceramics are used for 00:03:54.71000:03:54.720 thicker distillate and thinner CBD 00:03:58.72000:03:58.730 so when it comes down to ceramic you can 00:04:01.15000:04:01.160 also purchase a cheaper ceramic so you 00:04:04.36000:04:04.370 can have a really coarse compacted 00:04:07.65000:04:07.660 ceramic where if you were to break a 00:04:10.30000:04:10.310 cartridge apart and open the coil you 00:04:12.58000:04:12.590 can actually run your fingers through 00:04:15.49000:04:15.500 that ceramic and it will kind of break 00:04:17.31900:04:17.329 apart like sand then you have a solid 00:04:20.40900:04:20.419 ceramic ware ceramic clarified yeah that 00:04:26.47000:04:26.480 first scenario isn't good but it does 00:04:28.09000:04:28.100 it's not what you're looking for but it 00:04:29.98000:04:29.990 can work 00:04:31.42000:04:31.430 you know if ever if all the other 00:04:33.49000:04:33.500 material source is of quality it will 00:04:36.19000:04:36.200 work extremely well but if you are using 00:04:40.60000:04:40.610 more traditional well traditional in the 00:04:43.65900:04:43.669 sense of this industry would be a more 00:04:45.64000:04:45.650 ceramic core solid ceramic or you know 00:04:49.45000:04:49.460 ceramic is porous in itself so that's 00:04:52.39000:04:52.400 what actually pulls in the actual dis 00:04:56.44000:04:56.450 lit or oil and then in turn the positive 00:05:00.88000:05:00.890 and negative wire that's running through 00:05:02.40900:05:02.419 that ceramic is what's vaporizing the 00:05:05.59000:05:05.600 THC other than that I mean you know that 00:05:10.84000:05:10.850 I crusher we really emphasize on quality 00:05:14.11000:05:14.120 control I mean we are working with some 00:05:16.30000:05:16.310 of the top industry leaders in this 00:05:19.42000:05:19.430 space when it comes to pod systems or 00:05:21.49000:05:21.500 cartridges that I can't exactly give you 00:05:27.55000:05:27.560 know 00:05:33.41000:05:33.420 our customers are industry leaders and 00:05:36.56000:05:36.570 while our clients are industry leaders 00:05:39.09000:05:39.100 and they've kind of set a precedence of 00:05:41.42000:05:41.430 what it is to move forward in the 00:05:44.55000:05:44.560 industry you know they're they're making 00:05:46.71000:05:46.720 sure their chain supply is up to par 00:05:49.80000:05:49.810 that we can get them product and quality 00:05:51.78000:05:51.790 product at the same time you know it's I 00:05:58.01000:05:58.020 can tell you that in the Southern 00:06:00.81000:06:00.820 California region we probably have a 00:06:03.06000:06:03.070 good ninety percent of what is out there 00:06:08.04000:06:08.050 available to the general consumer right 00:06:10.14000:06:10.150 now we are providing that hardware 00:06:12.21000:06:12.220 specifically to those brands that you 00:06:17.40000:06:17.410 know the general question let me ask 00:06:19.02000:06:19.030 this we're being secretive about who 00:06:20.76000:06:20.770 they are but I mean your stuffs pretty 00:06:22.38000:06:22.390 apparent so like if I went into a 00:06:23.94000:06:23.950 dispensary you could pick out your whoa 00:06:26.25000:06:26.260 not necessarily because I mean in China 00:06:29.03000:06:29.040 everyone we know the Chinese 00:06:31.41000:06:31.420 manufacturing side of things you know 00:06:33.30000:06:33.310 when it comes to shoes or purses there's 00:06:35.55000:06:35.560 a bunch of factories that make the same 00:06:37.83000:06:37.840 thing so it's hard to make something 00:06:42.20000:06:42.210 that isn't going to get copied okay so 00:06:45.24000:06:45.250 you you've innovated on the design but 00:06:48.81000:06:48.820 then a month later or six months later 00:06:51.00000:06:51.010 you see a bunch of identical looking you 00:06:53.01000:06:53.020 know cheaper quality material yep yeah 00:06:57.93000:06:57.940 and I mean it ultimately comes down to 00:06:59.58000:06:59.590 the brands you know if they want to work 00:07:02.10000:07:02.110 with a cheaper supplier that's fully up 00:07:05.10000:07:05.110 to them just the general consumer 00:07:07.65000:07:07.660 doesn't realize that they're not getting 00:07:10.68000:07:10.690 the products not getting tested you know 00:07:13.32000:07:13.330 you don't know if it's pesticide free 00:07:15.15000:07:15.160 and you don't know if it's heavy metal 00:07:17.10000:07:17.110 passing so that's the biggest thing is 00:07:20.16000:07:20.170 for us you can we publicly we publicly 00:07:23.99000:07:24.000 have everything on our website that lab 00:07:27.42000:07:27.430 tested for every single one of our 00:07:29.01000:07:29.020 products for our heavy metals you know 00:07:31.11000:07:31.120 we are the provider of hardware 00:07:36.26000:07:36.270 and you know what everyone else provides 00:07:38.45000:07:38.460 is what they put into that and sell it 00:07:40.61000:07:40.620 off to the rest of the market well so 00:07:42.41000:07:42.420 let let's talk about kind of concentrate 00:07:45.14000:07:45.150 and obviously there's been lots of 00:07:47.03000:07:47.040 innovative new types of concentrates on 00:07:49.64000:07:49.650 the market so in terms of like can you 00:07:53.27000:07:53.280 talk about different concentrates and 00:07:56.03000:07:56.040 maybe like their characteristics like 00:07:57.92000:07:57.930 maybe they have different viscosities 00:07:59.45000:07:59.460 and like how that affects and interplays 00:08:01.91000:08:01.920 with you know which types of what type 00:08:05.60000:08:05.610 of hardware technology is required of 00:08:08.66000:08:08.670 course 00:08:09.53000:08:09.540 so the general consumer right now has 00:08:13.33000:08:13.340 this perception of clear is better 00:08:17.84000:08:17.850 clearer is cleaner and that's not the 00:08:20.75000:08:20.760 truth and that is honestly not the truth 00:08:23.95000:08:23.960 you know if you were to leave a cup of 00:08:29.21000:08:29.220 water outside during the day that air is 00:08:34.64000:08:34.650 gonna bring so much stuff into that 00:08:37.73000:08:37.740 water it's not going to be clear the 00:08:39.35000:08:39.360 entire time it will turn yellow 00:08:41.69000:08:41.700 it will turn Maui general consumers 00:08:44.63000:08:44.640 don't realize that that once air and 00:08:47.66000:08:47.670 heat is introduced into oil it will 00:08:50.75000:08:50.760 oxidize that oil will oxidize and it's 00:08:53.15000:08:53.160 not necessarily a bad thing think of it 00:08:55.88000:08:55.890 as a tea bag when you get a fresh tea 00:08:58.88000:08:58.890 bag and you put it into a cup of water a 00:09:00.59000:09:00.600 cup of hot water it's pretty clear and 00:09:04.25000:09:04.260 you see the color change but if you 00:09:06.38000:09:06.390 leave that tea bag in that hot cup of 00:09:08.78000:09:08.790 water that tea bag starts to kind of 00:09:11.72000:09:11.730 deteriorate the flowers deteriorate a 00:09:13.40000:09:13.410 little bit more your tea starts to get 00:09:15.89000:09:15.900 darker it's the same thing with oil 00:09:18.83000:09:18.840 sometimes time gives it a little bit 00:09:21.05000:09:21.060 better flavor so the general consumer 00:09:24.74000:09:24.750 doesn't realize that when it comes to 00:09:26.27000:09:26.280 viscosity and finding the correct device 00:09:30.07000:09:30.080 for our clients that's all that's 00:09:34.67000:09:34.680 totally up to them you know distillate 00:09:37.46000:09:37.470 usually comes out extremely thick live 00:09:40.04000:09:40.050 resin is you know extremely extremely 00:09:43.52000:09:43.530 thick you you know it's almost a solid 00:09:45.83000:09:45.840 at that 00:09:46.53000:09:46.540 and that's where terpenes come into play 00:09:48.99000:09:49.000 you know terpenes will break that down a 00:09:51.15000:09:51.160 little bit give you a little bit more 00:09:52.62000:09:52.630 flavor and you know that will change 00:09:56.37000:09:56.380 there's gossiped e of the oil itself so 00:09:59.37000:09:59.380 not all oil is made in tools not all oil 00:10:02.10000:10:02.110 is meant to be clear and that's 00:10:05.13000:10:05.140 something that most folks need to 00:10:07.20000:10:07.210 realize is if you are using a lot of 00:10:10.91000:10:10.920 terpenes to create a flavor profile for 00:10:14.30000:10:14.310 your biomass you might have a looser 00:10:19.23000:10:19.240 liquid than a looser oil I'm sorry a 00:10:21.81000:10:21.820 looser oil rather than a thicker oil me 00:10:30.84000:10:30.850 personally 00:10:32.76000:10:32.770 I personally enjoy the two-two-one CBD 00:10:35.97000:10:35.980 THC ratio just a little bit more mellow 00:10:40.05000:10:40.060 bhai rather than something that's gonna 00:10:41.85000:10:41.860 really get me you know couch-potato 00:10:45.78000:10:45.790 mode and then is there a specific like 00:10:48.54000:10:48.550 is it live resin two to one is it's it's 00:10:52.20000:10:52.210 mainly distillate two to one two to one 00:10:54.93000:10:54.940 with CBD you know anything with a twenty 00:10:58.05000:10:58.060 five anything with a 60% CBD to you know 00:11:01.68000:11:01.690 like a twenty percent thirty percent THC 00:11:03.87000:11:03.880 is personally what I like I can say I do 00:11:08.55000:11:08.560 enjoy this dizzy mango quite a bit I do 00:11:13.74000:11:13.750 enjoy that quiter 00:11:14.88000:11:14.890 and all your products showcased out here 00:11:17.76000:11:17.770 which one would you smoke that out of 00:11:20.28000:11:20.290 well unfortunately Susie doesn't provide 00:11:22.83000:11:22.840 that in a syringe maybe that's an idea 00:11:24.45000:11:24.460 for them to give to you know 00:11:27.06000:11:27.070 dispensaries that might buy hardware for 00:11:31.11000:11:31.120 the general consumers to fill their own 00:11:33.47000:11:33.480 but me personally right now I am using 00:11:38.25000:11:38.260 the Zen which is our newest device great 00:11:41.73000:11:41.740 thing is it utilizes USB see charging 00:11:44.94000:11:44.950 rather than the old micro USB that 00:11:48.12000:11:48.130 everyone still uses so you know you're 00:11:50.82000:11:50.830 not going to go having to look for 00:11:52.44000:11:52.450 another wire because most folks have 00:11:54.45000:11:54.460 either Apple or Android phone charger 00:11:59.55000:11:59.560 and that plugs straight into this a 00:12:01.65000:12:01.660 great thing is you have three settings 00:12:03.24000:12:03.250 for it so you have a low medium and high 00:12:05.61000:12:05.620 so if you are running a thicker oil in 00:12:08.64000:12:08.650 the pod you know you can warm that up a 00:12:10.92000:12:10.930 little bit more it's in the pod right 00:12:12.18000:12:12.190 now right now this is a CBD this is just 00:12:17.31000:12:17.320 plain CBD isolate with are you filling 00:12:21.21000:12:21.220 it yourself is I filled this one up 00:12:24.30000:12:24.310 myself yes okay but but is that let like 00:12:26.79000:12:26.800 because I'm looking at that it's like a 00:12:28.53000:12:28.540 fax looking platform but is is this a 00:12:33.00000:12:33.010 disposable cartridge difficult 00:12:35.22000:12:35.230 cartridges are usually one time usage so 00:12:37.98000:12:37.990 you have your own proprietary platforms 00:12:39.90000:12:39.910 that is standard know so it's all 00:12:43.62000:12:43.630 proprietary you know each of our pods 00:12:45.72000:12:45.730 are made to a certain spec there are a 00:12:49.80000:12:49.810 few brands that we work with that you 00:12:51.99000:12:52.000 know have really taken over that space 00:12:54.75000:12:54.760 in a couple of states right now I know 00:12:56.64000:12:56.650 Florida Michigan and Southern California 00:12:58.92000:12:58.930 have the V fire and there's couple 00:13:02.85000:13:02.860 brands that have really made that 00:13:05.04000:13:05.050 specific device their own not this 00:13:09.18000:13:09.190 specific device this one's the Zen B 00:13:11.67000:13:11.680 fire is a little bit bigger of a device 00:13:14.21000:13:14.220 yes this is I pressure the V fire is the 00:13:18.72000:13:18.730 I crusher model and then there's a 00:13:21.84000:13:21.850 couple there's a couple brands that 00:13:23.61000:13:23.620 rebrand you know we don't I can't 00:13:28.29000:13:28.300 disclose that information unfortunately 00:13:30.93000:13:30.940 yeah wait we're talking I guess my 00:13:34.47000:13:34.480 confusion is I'm seeing devices that 00:13:36.81000:13:36.820 look like this that look well maybe not 00:13:40.11000:13:40.120 this one but that that one specifically 00:13:41.94000:13:41.950 looks like a brand would let me see the 00:13:46.47000:13:46.480 pot itself so brands are ordering 00:13:50.37000:13:50.380 thousands of these filling them you're 00:13:53.16000:13:53.170 putting them in dispensaries on shelves 00:13:55.26000:13:55.270 and it only works with your device yes 00:13:57.09000:13:57.100 okay but the brands are also purchasing 00:13:59.61000:13:59.620 the device and rebranding the pot is 00:14:02.10000:14:02.110 there okay yes but point being they're 00:14:04.46000:14:04.470 standardizing on your proprietary 00:14:06.29000:14:06.300 technology platform which I find 00:14:08.31000:14:08.320 interesting so because I know 00:14:10.26000:14:10.270 so basically packs does that them guys 00:14:12.63000:14:12.640 do that busy does that because what 00:14:14.82000:14:14.830 historically I'm getting at is you know 00:14:17.84000:14:17.850 common thread sizes right like what five 00:14:21.24000:14:21.250 ten right so that that is thanks to the 00:14:24.56000:14:24.570 electronic cigarette industry that 00:14:26.55000:14:26.560 thread has become the standard and 00:14:30.51000:14:30.520 that's because the electronic cigarette 00:14:34.44000:14:34.450 industry there are a lot of smokers in 00:14:36.72000:14:36.730 that industry there's a lot of people 00:14:38.25000:14:38.260 that medicate and use recreational so a 00:14:41.67000:14:41.680 lot of those guys can walk into any 00:14:44.01000:14:44.020 dispensary and buy a 5-10 cartridge and 00:14:46.41000:14:46.420 not be persuaded to buy a stick battery 00:14:50.06000:14:50.070 you know they have ten lying around the 00:14:52.65000:14:52.660 house yeah they have ten lying around 00:14:54.03000:14:54.040 the house they got one of those really 00:14:55.59000:14:55.600 big ones I'd blow clouds you know and 00:14:57.90000:14:57.910 the thing is they can turn the power 00:14:59.58000:14:59.590 down on those to work correctly four or 00:15:01.92000:15:01.930 five ten cartridge okay so as a supplier 00:15:07.23000:15:07.240 would you guys rather not like is this 00:15:09.98900:15:09.999 kind of like an old technology 00:15:12.26900:15:12.279 no it's been it's been repurposed and 00:15:15.50900:15:15.519 it's been reworked to work better with 00:15:18.26900:15:18.279 cannabis viscosity is the viscosity is 00:15:21.74900:15:21.759 much thicker and the thing is you can't 00:15:23.81900:15:23.829 pump more power into the cartridge if 00:15:27.66000:15:27.670 you do that you end up in turn burning 00:15:30.11900:15:30.129 the THC molecules and completely whoa at 00:15:34.16900:15:34.179 that point what is the purpose of it you 00:15:36.35900:15:36.369 know I mean so you know for this is my 00:15:41.42900:15:41.439 one advice that most consumers is you've 00:15:43.53000:15:43.540 seen guys with electronic cigarettes 00:15:45.37900:15:45.389 blown clouds clouds does not make the 00:15:50.34000:15:50.350 cartridge any better it doesn't make 00:15:52.16900:15:52.179 your distillate any better you know at 00:15:55.91900:15:55.929 the end of the day the general consumer 00:15:57.66000:15:57.670 knows that there's one reason why 00:16:00.09000:16:00.100 they're doing this they're trying to get 00:16:02.34000:16:02.350 their high they're trying to lower their 00:16:05.24900:16:05.259 anxiety you know or even for metal 00:16:07.16900:16:07.179 report medical purposes that are trying 00:16:09.54000:16:09.550 to prevent a seizure you know but cloud 00:16:14.91000:16:14.920 production is not a huge factor I think 00:16:20.46000:16:20.470 perception wise so what you're saying is 00:16:22.10900:16:22.119 if you blow and you don't see anything 00:16:23.78900:16:23.799 you're still getting you're still 00:16:25.88900:16:25.899 getting something now because I was 00:16:27.41900:16:27.429 dealing with that actually with the 00:16:30.80900:16:30.819 ghost babe where I kept sucking and 00:16:32.87900:16:32.889 blowing and being like I don't see any 00:16:34.37900:16:34.389 vapor but then I was like but I'm super 00:16:36.29900:16:36.309 high yeah exactly 00:16:38.60900:16:38.619 everyone's different everyone's lung 00:16:41.03900:16:41.049 capacity is different do I mean I mean I 00:16:43.85900:16:43.869 can get a pretty big cloud from this if 00:16:45.96000:16:45.970 I really drew on it you know so 00:16:53.20000:16:53.210 right that that's you know what I mean 00:16:55.60000:16:55.610 but um I'm sitting there and I really 00:16:58.81000:16:58.820 have to toke that in you know I mean 00:17:01.41000:17:01.420 that's not the case for everyone so 00:17:04.57000:17:04.580 getting back to kind of the proprietary 00:17:07.26000:17:07.270 pod and battery kind of compatibility 00:17:11.65000:17:11.660 right because like your pod won't work 00:17:13.66000:17:13.670 with a packs battery and vice versa 00:17:16.89000:17:16.900 what are you kind of seeing in that game 00:17:19.27000:17:19.280 I mean do you find it interesting that 00:17:21.94000:17:21.950 there are all these companies coming out 00:17:23.71000:17:23.720 with proprietary connections yeah it's 00:17:28.54000:17:28.550 you know it's uh it's their one way of 00:17:34.06000:17:34.070 cornering a certain market you know in 00:17:36.52000:17:36.530 the packs don't get me wrong works well 00:17:38.26000:17:38.270 but the fact that not every consumer can 00:17:44.29000:17:44.300 pay $60 for a battery not every consumer 00:17:47.44000:17:47.450 can pay $60 for a pod half gram at that 00:17:51.58000:17:51.590 point not every consumer can do that 00:17:54.30000:17:54.310 we're working with some companies that 00:17:56.61000:17:56.620 yes they're using one of our designs as 00:17:59.53000:17:59.540 a proprietary system and you know 00:18:04.15000:18:04.160 they're able to sell to consumers at $40 00:18:08.11000:18:08.120 for a full gram and the battery will 00:18:10.84000:18:10.850 last them for two days you know and 00:18:14.11000:18:14.120 that's a big thing that's a big thing 00:18:16.60000:18:16.610 you know tax has a market focus that 00:18:22.21000:18:22.220 they're targeting they have an idea 00:18:25.63000:18:25.640 they're executing it extremely well she 00:18:27.79000:18:27.800 is doing the exact same thing so you 00:18:32.02000:18:32.030 know we're just offering that solution 00:18:33.67000:18:33.680 for brands like them or anyone that 00:18:36.07000:18:36.080 aspires to be someone like that can 00:18:38.77000:18:38.780 brands go on both platforms where do you 00:18:41.32000:18:41.330 do is there like you got a sign with us 00:18:44.17000:18:44.180 or with them 00:18:45.55000:18:45.560 I don't know the specific details of 00:18:48.58000:18:48.590 that but from what I understand you know 00:18:51.85000:18:51.860 there are a few brands that do have two 00:18:56.08000:18:56.090 different devices for two different 00:18:57.52000:18:57.530 purposes from different manufacturers 00:19:00.97000:19:00.980 okay so you talked about how this is 00:19:03.73000:19:03.740 still relevant technology wise but like 00:19:06.67000:19:06.680 what's the improvement that this has 00:19:08.65000:19:08.660 over kind of the traditional legacy so I 00:19:13.06000:19:13.070 mean with this one are five ten 00:19:15.25000:19:15.260 cartridges specifically you know with 00:19:18.82000:19:18.830 five ten cartridges they're great but 00:19:22.08000:19:22.090 most consumers aren't very careful with 00:19:25.45000:19:25.460 a lot of their things you know with the 00:19:27.79000:19:27.800 traditional pens you know sometimes you 00:19:29.83000:19:29.840 put it in your back pocket you will sit 00:19:31.48000:19:31.490 on it and it will snap you know we've 00:19:34.24000:19:34.250 all seen it happen you drop it the glass 00:19:36.76000:19:36.770 will break you lose your pressure you 00:19:39.22000:19:39.230 lose your precious biomass you know with 00:19:43.15000:19:43.160 the batteries and the pods you know the 00:19:45.64000:19:45.650 pods are made out of PT EGC plastic so 00:19:49.24000:19:49.250 it is a medical grade plastic so you 00:19:53.53000:19:53.540 know if you are dropping this on the 00:19:54.88000:19:54.890 floor the battery is gonna protect their 00:19:58.96000:19:58.970 pot and in all reality if you drop your 00:20:01.42000:20:01.430 pod it's not going to break on you and 00:20:03.28000:20:03.290 shatter on you but but from a smoking 00:20:05.74000:20:05.750 standpoint like is this one capable of 00:20:08.38000:20:08.390 handling more variability in viscosity 00:20:11.50000:20:11.510 than yeah minor like it definitely is 00:20:13.78000:20:13.790 I've had clients of mine send videos of 00:20:16.63000:20:16.640 them putting live resin into some of our 00:20:18.43000:20:18.440 pods you know they're still working on 00:20:21.31000:20:21.320 their aged it is not encouraged it is 00:20:24.85000:20:24.860 not encouraged do experiment at your own 00:20:27.16000:20:27.170 risk that's what I tell my clients but 00:20:29.80000:20:29.810 you know that's where we see a lot of 00:20:31.63000:20:31.640 the trend moving toward right now is 00:20:33.16000:20:33.170 live resin but they're cutting the live 00:20:35.56000:20:35.570 resin right now there are you know with 00:20:37.21000:20:37.220 a lot of terpenes to get different 00:20:38.59000:20:38.600 flavors and then you have your consumers 00:20:41.20000:20:41.210 that want that true taste 00:20:45.03000:20:45.040 some live resin right in front of you I 00:20:52.31000:20:52.320 would definitely have to say the guy 00:20:57.12000:20:57.130 that I'm using right now this has been 00:20:59.61000:20:59.620 holding up pretty well but every mix 00:21:02.55000:21:02.560 will be different one of our clients has 00:21:05.55000:21:05.560 put live resin in this specific pod and 00:21:07.86000:21:07.870 he has mixed it with different you know 00:21:11.94000:21:11.950 liquidiser so either MCT Hunnicutt or 00:21:15.12000:21:15.130 even terpenes i would assume if you're 00:21:18.60000:21:18.610 doing live resin the last thing you want 00:21:20.64000:21:20.650 to do is make sure that see sometimes 00:21:23.01000:21:23.020 just a little bit goes a long way you 00:21:24.84000:21:24.850 know I mean and everyone experiments on 00:21:27.06000:21:27.070 a different level I mean how did we get 00:21:29.01000:21:29.020 live resin it was out of a crazy idea 00:21:32.04000:21:32.050 that he had to put it in dry ice right 00:21:36.39000:21:36.400 and now look at where we're at with it 00:21:39.15000:21:39.160 you know it's I mean how did electronic 00:21:43.68000:21:43.690 cigarettes come to be you know 00:21:46.28000:21:46.290 traditional analog cigarettes have been 00:21:48.33000:21:48.340 around for so long and it's the same 00:21:50.31000:21:50.320 thing with hand rolling it's been around 00:21:52.98000:21:52.990 for so long it's been a standard for so 00:21:55.08000:21:55.090 long it took one person to say hey I 00:21:59.76000:21:59.770 want to play Breaking Bad and I want to 00:22:01.47000:22:01.480 try something crazy and now we have 00:22:03.69000:22:03.700 distillate now we have live resin you 00:22:06.90000:22:06.910 know it just takes one crazy experiment 00:22:09.33000:22:09.340 to do and that one person can lead the 00:22:12.30000:22:12.310 entire industry space into a completely 00:22:14.85000:22:14.860 different direction yeah I mean who 00:22:17.40000:22:17.410 would have thought 10 15 years ago that 00:22:20.97000:22:20.980 we're gonna be at an event where we can 00:22:24.54000:22:24.550 openly smoke and not be 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