Which Capacitor Do I Use Tech Tips Tuesday

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hi there and welcome to another tech
00:00:07.889 00:00:07.899 tips Tuesday in this episode we're going
00:00:10.470 00:00:10.480 to check out choosing the correct
00:00:11.610 00:00:11.620 capacitor for its intended application
00:00:14.280 00:00:14.290 so whether you have an RF circuit an if'
00:00:16.890 00:00:16.900 circuit an audio circuit or whatever
00:00:18.960 00:00:18.970 choosing the correct capacitor is
00:00:20.880 00:00:20.890 crucial for that circuits performance
00:00:23.130 00:00:23.140 temperature stability and a whole bunch
00:00:24.929 00:00:24.939 of other factors that's what we're going
00:00:26.580 00:00:26.590 to take a look at in this video so let's
00:00:28.710 00:00:28.720 get started here are the capacitors that
00:00:31.950 00:00:31.960 I'm going to be talking about at the
00:00:33.690 00:00:33.700 white board not in any specific order so
00:00:37.260 00:00:37.270 these first two capacitors here are
00:00:38.700 00:00:38.710 paper and foil capacitors and they are
00:00:40.919 00:00:40.929 both faulty by now so if you have any
00:00:42.750 00:00:42.760 equipment with these capacitors in them
00:00:44.459 00:00:44.469 they've got to go now you may have
00:00:46.979 00:00:46.989 tested these with your capacitance
00:00:48.299 00:00:48.309 tester and said to yourself well they
00:00:49.770 00:00:49.780 they test okay you know this one reads
00:00:51.479 00:00:51.489 104 so that's point 1 micro farad and
00:00:53.669 00:00:53.679 this one is point zero 5 and it reads
00:00:55.349 00:00:55.359 absolutely fine well that's not a
00:00:57.599 00:00:57.609 leakage test leakage test is a
00:00:59.250 00:00:59.260 completely different thing now when
00:01:02.160 00:01:02.170 people say that these capacitors go
00:01:03.569 00:01:03.579 leaky that doesn't mean that they're
00:01:04.890 00:01:04.900 leaking a substance like liquid or
00:01:06.780 00:01:06.790 anything like that it just means that
00:01:08.070 00:01:08.080 they're leaking DC across them so if you
00:01:11.100 00:01:11.110 have an old book with yellowing pages in
00:01:13.410 00:01:13.420 it chances are that book is pretty old
00:01:15.030 00:01:15.040 and the paper is going acidic now the
00:01:17.310 00:01:17.320 same thing is happening inside these
00:01:18.960 00:01:18.970 capacitors because these capacitors have
00:01:20.850 00:01:20.860 paper and foil inside them
00:01:22.770 00:01:22.780 now when the paper goes acidic it passes
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00:01:27.960 00:01:27.970 a function that these capacitors are not
00:01:29.940 00:01:29.950 supposed to do they're only supposed to
00:01:31.230 00:01:31.240 pass AC and block DC so these capacitors
00:01:36.450 00:01:36.460 here if you want to picture a fault
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00:01:40.290 00:01:40.300 this and that's really what's going on
00:01:42.560 00:01:42.570 now I know a lot of audio guys seem to
00:01:44.760 00:01:44.770 like these old Bumblebee capacitors
00:01:46.260 00:01:46.270 thinking that they make their audio
00:01:47.520 00:01:47.530 circuits sound better
00:01:48.480 00:01:48.490 well they didn't sound like that when
00:01:49.890 00:01:49.900 they came from the factory because they
00:01:51.240 00:01:51.250 weren't leaky and really what these
00:01:53.280 00:01:53.290 things do in an audio amplifier since
00:01:55.740 00:01:55.750 they passed DC through it puts DC
00:01:58.500 00:01:58.510 voltage a positive DC voltage on the
00:02:00.510 00:02:00.520 grid of the next tube driving it into
00:02:02.310 00:02:02.320 hard Class A driving that tube into hard
00:02:05.280 00:02:05.290 Class A causes it to draw excessive
00:02:07.290 00:02:07.300 current and burns out plate resistors
00:02:09.210 00:02:09.220 and does all sorts of bad things in old
00:02:11.699 00:02:11.709 receivers these things are responsible
00:02:13.890 00:02:13.900 for destroying if' transformers and
00:02:15.959 00:02:15.969 burning out power supplies and doing all
00:02:17.459 00:02:17.469 sorts of things
00:02:18.730 00:02:18.740 so if you have old bumblebees in any of
00:02:20.530 00:02:20.540 your equipment be prepared to be
00:02:23.110 00:02:23.120 repairing the power supply or you know
00:02:25.270 00:02:25.280 replacing tubes on a pretty constant
00:02:27.550 00:02:27.560 basis these things will read plate final
00:02:29.890 00:02:29.900 tubes like the audio output tubes they
00:02:32.500 00:02:32.510 put a positive bias on the grids of the
00:02:35.110 00:02:35.120 say you had 6l sixes this would put a
00:02:37.240 00:02:37.250 positive voltage on the grids and cause
00:02:39.370 00:02:39.380 the 6l6 to read plate which in turn
00:02:41.650 00:02:41.660 destroys the tube in short order again
00:02:44.890 00:02:44.900 through excessive plate current draw
00:02:46.960 00:02:46.970 they even burn out audio output
00:02:48.760 00:02:48.770 transformers so these guys have got to
00:02:51.220 00:02:51.230 go and usually they get replaced with
00:02:52.630 00:02:52.640 polypropylene style capacitors like this
00:02:55.830 00:02:55.840 all right the next capacitor we're going
00:02:58.300 00:02:58.310 to look at here is a mica capacitor and
00:02:59.920 00:02:59.930 they are very very stable capacitors so
00:03:02.590 00:03:02.600 they're stable over a very wide
00:03:03.790 00:03:03.800 temperature range and you'll find these
00:03:05.620 00:03:05.630 capacitors in oscillators and precision
00:03:08.140 00:03:08.150 RF circuits and things like that
00:03:09.970 00:03:09.980 very rarely do these things fail so if
00:03:13.000 00:03:13.010 you're tempted to replace the style in
00:03:14.860 00:03:14.870 this particular style of capacitor what
00:03:17.410 00:03:17.420 you want to do first is make sure that
00:03:19.120 00:03:19.130 it is definitely faulty in that there is
00:03:21.220 00:03:21.230 some sort of a problem with it in
00:03:22.630 00:03:22.640 receivers many of these capacitors are
00:03:25.150 00:03:25.160 hand picked and if you replace these
00:03:27.820 00:03:27.830 capacitors you'll have a real hard time
00:03:29.530 00:03:29.540 getting the dial accurate again this
00:03:33.700 00:03:33.710 capacitor right here is another very
00:03:35.740 00:03:35.750 dependable capacitor this is a ceramic
00:03:37.480 00:03:37.490 style capacitor now you never ever want
00:03:39.910 00:03:39.920 to put this style of capacitor in any
00:03:42.070 00:03:42.080 kind of oscillator circuit but these
00:03:44.020 00:03:44.030 things are very dependable they never
00:03:45.430 00:03:45.440 seem to fail so you'll find these as RF
00:03:48.340 00:03:48.350 bypassing capacitors and I'll refer to
00:03:50.230 00:03:50.240 all this again on the whiteboard this is
00:03:53.050 00:03:53.060 a polypropylene style capacitor and
00:03:54.850 00:03:54.860 these are great in audio amplifiers and
00:03:56.680 00:03:56.690 they're also very good for RF coupling
00:03:58.660 00:03:58.670 and things like that again not good for
00:04:01.660 00:04:01.670 any kind of stability in an RF
00:04:03.130 00:04:03.140 oscillator or anything like that this is
00:04:05.830 00:04:05.840 an NPO style capacitor and these are
00:04:08.650 00:04:08.660 extremely stable in RF oscillators they
00:04:12.040 00:04:12.050 work very very well and the capacitance
00:04:14.470 00:04:14.480 moves very very little with temperature
00:04:16.599 00:04:16.609 change and that's very crucial in an RF
00:04:18.670 00:04:18.680 oscillator so these are very very
00:04:20.860 00:04:20.870 accurate this here is a 1206 part with
00:04:23.620 00:04:23.630 just some legs assaulted on to it so
00:04:25.840 00:04:25.850 that we can do some experiments later
00:04:27.540 00:04:27.550 this is another newer style mica
00:04:30.610 00:04:30.620 capacitor so really that's this
00:04:32.500 00:04:32.510 that are in a different style package
00:04:33.880 00:04:33.890 that's all this is these here are orange
00:04:37.060 00:04:37.070 drop capacitors and these are also newer
00:04:39.340 00:04:39.350 style capacitors this is an orange drop
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00:04:42.910 00:04:42.920 call them they are also very very stable
00:04:45.040 00:04:45.050 and you'll have absolutely no problems
00:04:47.410 00:04:47.420 with these things unless of course
00:04:48.850 00:04:48.860 there's been some form of temperature
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00:04:52.720 00:04:52.730 capacitor here is a polystyrene
00:04:53.970 00:04:53.980 capacitor and you'll see these things in
00:04:56.200 00:04:56.210 a lot of the newer solid state equipment
00:04:58.780 00:04:58.790 they use them in oscillating circuits in
00:05:00.670 00:05:00.680 tuners and all that kind of stuff these
00:05:03.100 00:05:03.110 are very very stable as well but they're
00:05:04.900 00:05:04.910 not very good with external temperature
00:05:06.760 00:05:06.770 so you can't heat these things up
00:05:08.550 00:05:08.560 polystyrene is very very soft and if you
00:05:11.770 00:05:11.780 heat these things up the capacitance
00:05:13.810 00:05:13.820 will change and when it cools down it
00:05:15.100 00:05:15.110 will stay at that so it kind of has a
00:05:16.900 00:05:16.910 memory effect so these should be used in
00:05:19.570 00:05:19.580 relatively cool circuits if you're using
00:05:21.310 00:05:21.320 anything like this in a vacuum tube
00:05:22.780 00:05:22.790 circuit you need to use a lot of thermal
00:05:24.310 00:05:24.320 decoupling and keep these things away
00:05:25.870 00:05:25.880 from tubes when you're soldering these
00:05:27.940 00:05:27.950 things you don't want to have very much
00:05:29.440 00:05:29.450 dwell time with your soldering iron on
00:05:31.060 00:05:31.070 these legs again or you'll cause damage
00:05:33.490 00:05:33.500 to this particular style of capacitor on
00:05:37.180 00:05:37.190 the white board here I've got all sorts
00:05:38.680 00:05:38.690 of different styles of capacitors listed
00:05:40.510 00:05:40.520 what I'm going to do is work down the
00:05:42.280 00:05:42.290 list here and explain a little bit about
00:05:43.660 00:05:43.670 each different style of capacitor and
00:05:45.640 00:05:45.650 I'll give you an idea of the circuits
00:05:47.050 00:05:47.060 that you'll find these in also talked a
00:05:49.480 00:05:49.490 little bit about some of the capacitors
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00:05:52.420 00:05:52.430 should be used in and shouldn't be used
00:05:54.280 00:05:54.290 in after I'm done explaining what's on
00:05:56.770 00:05:56.780 the board here we're going to turn this
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00:05:59.620 00:05:59.630 over to the bench and I'm going to
00:06:00.850 00:06:00.860 demonstrate how the capacitance of these
00:06:03.310 00:06:03.320 capacitors changes with temperature and
00:06:05.620 00:06:05.630 we'll also take a look at some vibration
00:06:07.360 00:06:07.370 and see how the capacitors react to some
00:06:10.060 00:06:10.070 vibration very important to understand
00:06:11.890 00:06:11.900 if you're designing or repairing any
00:06:13.360 00:06:13.370 kind of circuitry and you're looking to
00:06:15.130 00:06:15.140 substitute a capacitor alright the first
00:06:18.430 00:06:18.440 capacitor we're going to talk about here
00:06:19.750 00:06:19.760 is the np0 style capacitor the reason
00:06:22.330 00:06:22.340 i've got 0 and brackets here is because
00:06:24.040 00:06:24.050 a lot of people say NPO it's actually NP
00:06:26.800 00:06:26.810 0 or C 0 G and this stands for negative
00:06:29.890 00:06:29.900 positive 0 and these are extremely
00:06:32.020 00:06:32.030 stable capacitors you'll find these
00:06:34.210 00:06:34.220 capacitors in crystal oscillators
00:06:36.130 00:06:36.140 variable frequency oscillators beat
00:06:37.870 00:06:37.880 frequency oscillators and in RF coupling
00:06:40.240 00:06:40.250 circuits so basically anywhere you find
00:06:42.550 00:06:42.560 an NPO capacitor usually its RF related
00:06:45.730 00:06:45.740 like the circuitry is RF related all
00:06:47.850 00:06:47.860 right so the capacitance movement to
00:06:50.320 00:06:50.330 temperature is positive negative 0 to 30
00:06:52.690 00:06:52.700 parts per million per degree C and their
00:06:54.790 00:06:54.800 usable temperature is negative 55
00:06:56.680 00:06:56.690 degrees C to positive 125 degrees C so
00:07:00.010 00:07:00.020 quite a usable range and very very
00:07:02.020 00:07:02.030 stable the next capacitor down is the
00:07:05.110 00:07:05.120 mica and it is also very very stable
00:07:07.180 00:07:07.190 you'll also find it in the same kind of
00:07:08.950 00:07:08.960 circuits that you find the NPO capacitor
00:07:11.500 00:07:11.510 all right
00:07:13.030 00:07:13.040 its accuracy really is positive negative
00:07:15.790 00:07:15.800 50 parts per million per degrees C so
00:07:17.800 00:07:17.810 not as good as the NPO but very good so
00:07:21.490 00:07:21.500 you'll find you know these are mica
00:07:22.900 00:07:22.910 capacitors and a lot of older receivers
00:07:24.880 00:07:24.890 those dominoes style capacitors that I
00:07:26.530 00:07:26.540 talked about those are mica and some of
00:07:28.750 00:07:28.760 the newer style mica capacitors they
00:07:30.970 00:07:30.980 almost look like a little brown piece of
00:07:32.350 00:07:32.360 gum with two legs coming out of them
00:07:33.790 00:07:33.800 those are also a mica style capacitor
00:07:35.950 00:07:35.960 and we'll also take a look at some of
00:07:37.000 00:07:37.010 these over on the bench here and you'll
00:07:38.380 00:07:38.390 see what I'm talking about all right
00:07:40.570 00:07:40.580 very very good for RF service as well so
00:07:43.120 00:07:43.130 Mike and NPO are kind of the top of the
00:07:45.310 00:07:45.320 list for any kind of oscillating
00:07:46.780 00:07:46.790 circuits or you know any kind of RF
00:07:48.400 00:07:48.410 circuitry whatsoever polystyrene are
00:07:51.430 00:07:51.440 okay stable and they are temperature
00:07:54.060 00:07:54.070 temperature sensitive so polystyrene
00:07:56.710 00:07:56.720 caps are those little kind of clear caps
00:07:58.240 00:07:58.250 and you can see the foil wound inside
00:08:00.130 00:08:00.140 and the ends kind of look like they've
00:08:02.050 00:08:02.060 got a pattern on them with two leads
00:08:03.670 00:08:03.680 sticking out you'll find them a lot in
00:08:05.290 00:08:05.300 tuners and solid-state equipment so when
00:08:08.620 00:08:08.630 I say okay stable they're not as stable
00:08:10.420 00:08:10.430 as the NPO or the mic up but they are
00:08:13.420 00:08:13.430 very temperature sensitive and I'm
00:08:14.980 00:08:14.990 talking about external temperature
00:08:16.450 00:08:16.460 sensitive so if you get the actual case
00:08:18.250 00:08:18.260 of a polystyrene capacitor hot it will
00:08:20.980 00:08:20.990 move in capacitance and then when it
00:08:22.870 00:08:22.880 cools down it will stay there so it will
00:08:25.060 00:08:25.070 keep moving if you keep getting it hot
00:08:26.620 00:08:26.630 so what I'm trying to say is you don't
00:08:28.450 00:08:28.460 want to tie polystyrene capacitors to
00:08:30.610 00:08:30.620 any hot tube pins if you're soldering
00:08:33.190 00:08:33.200 them you got to be very very careful
00:08:35.170 00:08:35.180 because the soldering iron will again
00:08:36.790 00:08:36.800 change the capacitance a little and when
00:08:38.410 00:08:38.420 it cools off it will stay there it won't
00:08:40.150 00:08:40.160 return all right so polystyrene caps
00:08:43.240 00:08:43.250 again in a lot of solid-state equipment
00:08:45.220 00:08:45.230 you very very rarely find them in
00:08:47.140 00:08:47.150 anything vacuum tube and if they are
00:08:48.910 00:08:48.920 they have quite a bit of thermal relief
00:08:50.320 00:08:50.330 and they are far away from the vacuum
00:08:52.390 00:08:52.400 tubes these capacitors here are ceramic
00:08:55.720 00:08:55.730 style capacitors the x5r x7r y5v
00:08:59.620 00:08:59.630 zedd five you are either those disks
00:09:02.380 00:09:02.390 tile capacitors with a leg on each side
00:09:04.240 00:09:04.250 or you'll find them as small chip
00:09:05.950 00:09:05.960 capacitors for surface mount use okay
00:09:09.790 00:09:09.800 the X is the lower temperature the five
00:09:12.580 00:09:12.590 is the higher temperature all right in
00:09:14.500 00:09:14.510 the R is the actual usable range I
00:09:16.420 00:09:16.430 didn't have enough space to write the
00:09:18.190 00:09:18.200 usable range in here but that's really
00:09:19.660 00:09:19.670 how this coding goes now these
00:09:22.300 00:09:22.310 capacitors are great for RF bypass you
00:09:25.420 00:09:25.430 don't ever want to use them in any
00:09:26.980 00:09:26.990 oscillator circuits alright any kind of
00:09:29.680 00:09:29.690 tuned circuits RF coupling is okay from
00:09:32.560 00:09:32.570 stage to stage as long as there really
00:09:34.360 00:09:34.370 is no interlock between the stages and
00:09:36.400 00:09:36.410 when I say interlock one stage will
00:09:38.920 00:09:38.930 affect the other all right
00:09:40.600 00:09:40.610 so that's really what you want to you
00:09:43.570 00:09:43.580 know use this particular style of
00:09:45.820 00:09:45.830 capacitor for RF bypass they work
00:09:48.100 00:09:48.110 absolutely great I use them for our
00:09:49.720 00:09:49.730 bypassing everywhere all right
00:09:52.920 00:09:52.930 polypropylene caps are good for audio
00:09:55.240 00:09:55.250 and RF stage coupling they're not very
00:09:58.150 00:09:58.160 very stable nowhere near as stable as
00:10:00.130 00:10:00.140 anything up here but they are great for
00:10:02.230 00:10:02.240 audio polychrome caps you find them a
00:10:03.940 00:10:03.950 lot in audio amplifiers and in some RF
00:10:06.910 00:10:06.920 circuits as well they are okay for that
00:10:08.500 00:10:08.510 no oscillating circuits again absolutely
00:10:11.170 00:10:11.180 not oscillating circuits are pretty much
00:10:13.780 00:10:13.790 NPO and mica capacitors and maybe
00:10:16.540 00:10:16.550 sometimes polystyrene all right
00:10:19.440 00:10:19.450 tantalum capacitors are horrible for
00:10:21.520 00:10:21.530 audio they're nonlinear but they are
00:10:23.410 00:10:23.420 great audio are great RF bypassing
00:10:25.840 00:10:25.850 capacitor or timing capacitors so if
00:10:28.330 00:10:28.340 you're making a circuit with a 555 timer
00:10:29.920 00:10:29.930 or something like that and you need some
00:10:31.990 00:10:32.000 sort of stability you don't want
00:10:33.460 00:10:33.470 anything to move around tamerlan's are
00:10:35.260 00:10:35.270 great because they go above a micro
00:10:36.940 00:10:36.950 farad quite easily and they are pretty
00:10:39.280 00:10:39.290 temperature stable all right paper again
00:10:42.820 00:10:42.830 no good if you find any paper caps and
00:10:44.680 00:10:44.690 anything old you want to get rid of them
00:10:46.870 00:10:46.880 there are some new paper and oil
00:10:48.460 00:10:48.470 capacitors that are maybe ok some of the
00:10:51.340 00:10:51.350 audio guys really like that kind of
00:10:52.990 00:10:53.000 stuff but any kind of old paper
00:10:55.480 00:10:55.490 capacitor you want to just get rid of so
00:10:57.520 00:10:57.530 whether it's a bumblebee or a black
00:10:59.080 00:10:59.090 beauty or just a regular you know foil
00:11:01.450 00:11:01.460 paper style capacitor in the trash they
00:11:04.060 00:11:04.070 go and replace them with a polypropylene
00:11:05.830 00:11:05.840 style capacitor and that's really what's
00:11:09.670 00:11:09.680 on this board here so what I'm going to
00:11:11.380 00:11:11.390 do now is take the information that I've
00:11:13.150 00:11:13.160 shown
00:11:13.400 00:11:13.410 you hear and we'll go over to the bench
00:11:15.110 00:11:15.120 and I'll demonstrate this with a
00:11:17.030 00:11:17.040 capacitance meter an oscilloscope and
00:11:18.650 00:11:18.660 some other tools what I've got set up
00:11:21.680 00:11:21.690 here is a mica capacitor in the test
00:11:24.410 00:11:24.420 leads of my capacitor tester this is
00:11:26.329 00:11:26.339 just a drill vise holding them steady so
00:11:28.430 00:11:28.440 this is our little test jig for now
00:11:30.009 00:11:30.019 right here you'll see a green clip
00:11:32.540 00:11:32.550 that's just an attempt to keep noise off
00:11:34.670 00:11:34.680 the actual drill vise itself so now what
00:11:38.059 00:11:38.069 I'm going to do is I'm going to take my
00:11:39.559 00:11:39.569 hot air tool alright and I'm going to
00:11:41.509 00:11:41.519 heat this thing up now I'm not going to
00:11:43.910 00:11:43.920 take any temperature measurements of the
00:11:45.259 00:11:45.269 actual capacitor itself our temperature
00:11:47.119 00:11:47.129 measurement for today is screaming hot
00:11:49.150 00:11:49.160 so basically you can picture this thing
00:11:51.740 00:11:51.750 strapped to the side of a 10 watt
00:11:53.240 00:11:53.250 resistor so I'm going to heat this thing
00:11:55.610 00:11:55.620 up very very hot and we're going to see
00:11:57.410 00:11:57.420 how much it actually moves in
00:11:59.059 00:11:59.069 capacitance now of course this is going
00:12:00.710 00:12:00.720 to get way way hotter than it would
00:12:02.629 00:12:02.639 actually get in real service but still
00:12:04.670 00:12:04.680 in a worst case scenario we can get an
00:12:06.470 00:12:06.480 idea of how much this mica capacitor is
00:12:08.660 00:12:08.670 going to move so I'll move you over here
00:12:11.600 00:12:11.610 to the capacitor tester all right so
00:12:15.860 00:12:15.870 really all we're going to be paying
00:12:16.939 00:12:16.949 attention to is you know maybe these
00:12:18.650 00:12:18.660 digits here at maximum this here is
00:12:21.410 00:12:21.420 really just you know random air current
00:12:23.929 00:12:23.939 moving over that capacitor at this point
00:12:26.809 00:12:26.819 and maybe some noise mixed in there as
00:12:28.670 00:12:28.680 well so we're at ninety six point three
00:12:31.429 00:12:31.439 six eight picofarad and even if I move
00:12:33.620 00:12:33.630 my hand close to it here I'll just put
00:12:35.179 00:12:35.189 my hand close to it you can see how much
00:12:36.559 00:12:36.569 it alters what we're seeing on the
00:12:38.990 00:12:39.000 capacitor tester here so when I move the
00:12:42.439 00:12:42.449 actual hot air tool in front of it
00:12:44.389 00:12:44.399 you're going to see the digits go all
00:12:45.650 00:12:45.660 crazy here but in the end we'll have a
00:12:48.439 00:12:48.449 reading here so I'll give you an example
00:12:50.420 00:12:50.430 I'll turn this thing on right now so let
00:12:52.429 00:12:52.439 my my hotter tool get nice and hot
00:12:56.710 00:12:56.720 so we're at ninety six point three six
00:13:00.260 00:13:00.270 something like that Pico farad
00:13:02.560 00:13:02.570 all right this hot air tool is already
00:13:04.820 00:13:04.830 hot enough to melt solder so what I'm
00:13:06.530 00:13:06.540 going to do is I'm going to bring the
00:13:08.060 00:13:08.070 hotter to a close to the actual device
00:13:10.340 00:13:10.350 under test and I'm going to heat it up
00:13:11.720 00:13:11.730 so we'll keep a keep in mind here ninety
00:13:14.510 00:13:14.520 six point three six so here we go
00:13:21.150 00:13:21.160 okay so that's screaming hot I move the
00:13:23.130 00:13:23.140 tool away so now we can get an accurate
00:13:25.110 00:13:25.120 reading
00:13:25.740 00:13:25.750 so from ninety six point three six to
00:13:28.440 00:13:28.450 ninety six point five and as you can see
00:13:32.790 00:13:32.800 it's coming down rather quickly so we
00:13:37.650 00:13:37.660 have maybe point two of a Pico farad
00:13:39.660 00:13:39.670 movement there still ninety six Pico
00:13:42.840 00:13:42.850 farad so we haven't even moved one Pico
00:13:45.930 00:13:45.940 farad that's pretty good just turn that
00:13:50.400 00:13:50.410 off so maybe point two of movement there
00:13:55.190 00:13:55.200 very very stable excellent for
00:13:57.540 00:13:57.550 oscillator service these things and of
00:13:59.790 00:13:59.800 course again we've made this thing you
00:14:01.860 00:14:01.870 know way hotter than it would actually
00:14:03.150 00:14:03.160 get in real service here and as you can
00:14:05.040 00:14:05.050 see it's coming down to room temperature
00:14:06.360 00:14:06.370 and it's coming back alright so I'll
00:14:10.020 00:14:10.030 remove that from the test fixture now
00:14:15.150 00:14:15.160 I'll put this NPO
00:14:16.110 00:14:16.120 capacitor in here that we looked at on
00:14:18.060 00:14:18.070 the piece of paper earlier it's that
00:14:19.470 00:14:19.480 1206 part and I'll just put that in here
00:14:25.370 00:14:25.380 okay let everything settle down here for
00:14:28.680 00:14:28.690 a second so at 101 Pico farad 0.47
00:14:36.050 00:14:36.060 okay so I'll turn the tool back on here
00:14:38.400 00:14:38.410 again
00:14:40.600 00:14:40.610 keep in mind when I get the tool close
00:14:42.220 00:14:42.230 to it it's going to get all crazy
00:14:43.240 00:14:43.250 because of the noise
00:14:46.470 00:14:46.480 so 101.4 seven I'll heat this up move it
00:14:53.050 00:14:53.060 away so on a 1.5
00:15:00.520 00:15:00.530 you can see how quickly that returns now
00:15:02.650 00:15:02.660 that was almost hot enough to D solder
00:15:04.510 00:15:04.520 the leads off that part
00:15:06.810 00:15:06.820 all right so very very stable component
00:15:11.290 00:15:11.300 here we go right back at 101 point four
00:15:13.240 00:15:13.250 seven again so extremely stable part
00:15:18.400 00:15:18.410 excellent for oscillators so now what
00:15:20.440 00:15:20.450 I'm going to do is I'm going to show you
00:15:21.250 00:15:21.260 the opposite end of the spectrum here
00:15:22.960 00:15:22.970 I'll remove this thing and I'll
00:15:25.360 00:15:25.370 demonstrate just a standard ceramic
00:15:27.430 00:15:27.440 capacitor like you see right here
00:15:29.200 00:15:29.210 all right standard ceramic
00:15:38.340 00:15:38.350 okay so it's in the vise I got my hands
00:15:41.880 00:15:41.890 off of it and as you can see it is still
00:15:44.070 00:15:44.080 moving and that's just because the heat
00:15:45.960 00:15:45.970 of my fingers is settling off now into
00:15:51.390 00:15:51.400 the test fixture all right this is
00:15:55.380 00:15:55.390 supposed to be 103 or point zero one
00:15:58.050 00:15:58.060 micro farad and we're coming up to that
00:15:59.670 00:15:59.680 there we go okay now what I'm going to
00:16:03.870 00:16:03.880 do is turn on the tool again
00:16:08.480 00:16:08.490 and I'll just swipe this across the face
00:16:11.900 00:16:11.910 of this capacitor a few times now this
00:16:14.240 00:16:14.250 would be Oh opponent to Zed five you or
00:16:18.170 00:16:18.180 something like that something yeah
00:16:22.579 00:16:22.589 Zed five you would be close enough there
00:16:24.800 00:16:24.810 is no actual rating on this so it's
00:16:26.420 00:16:26.430 probably like I said five you said five
00:16:28.340 00:16:28.350 be something like that here we go I'm
00:16:30.710 00:16:30.720 gonna heat this thing up
00:16:36.100 00:16:36.110 so now we're at point zero zero two
00:16:38.400 00:16:38.410 micro farad point zero zero three point
00:16:43.810 00:16:43.820 zero zero four as it's cooling down
00:16:45.970 00:16:45.980 point zero zero five and so on you can
00:16:50.410 00:16:50.420 see it counting up point zero zero seven
00:16:54.450 00:16:54.460 point zero zero eight so now just think
00:16:58.330 00:16:58.340 if you put one of these ceramic
00:16:59.440 00:16:59.450 capacitors inside of say a vfo or any
00:17:03.130 00:17:03.140 you know sensitive oscillator that
00:17:05.490 00:17:05.500 oscillator would move all over the place
00:17:08.290 00:17:08.300 and it would be uncontrollable just even
00:17:09.910 00:17:09.920 slight chassis temperature changes would
00:17:12.280 00:17:12.290 cause this thing to move right so I'll
00:17:14.860 00:17:14.870 just touch it with my finger it's still
00:17:16.329 00:17:16.339 climbing okay that's just holding it
00:17:20.800 00:17:20.810 with my fingers let go of it incredible
00:17:25.600 00:17:25.610 amounts of movement in these ceramic
00:17:27.250 00:17:27.260 capacitors so definitely no good for
00:17:30.730 00:17:30.740 audio as well because they have a thing
00:17:32.350 00:17:32.360 called the piezoelectric effect and they
00:17:35.080 00:17:35.090 become quite microphonic in audio
00:17:37.510 00:17:37.520 service and I will show you an example
00:17:39.220 00:17:39.230 of that here so ceramic capacitors you
00:17:42.070 00:17:42.080 know like this here or the like should
00:17:44.470 00:17:44.480 not be in any kind of audio signal path
00:17:46.960 00:17:46.970 again great for you know RF decoupling
00:17:49.450 00:17:49.460 or RF bypass service but um even at that
00:17:52.660 00:17:52.670 you know I wouldn't I wouldn't try to
00:17:55.030 00:17:55.040 have this thing in any kind of a signal
00:17:56.920 00:17:56.930 path other than to you know drain our
00:17:58.750 00:17:58.760 after ground really all right so now
00:18:01.750 00:18:01.760 what I'll do is I'll put this capacitor
00:18:05.200 00:18:05.210 in here it's polypro cap alright I'll
00:18:08.530 00:18:08.540 put it in there this one is rated point
00:18:10.690 00:18:10.700 one micro farad okay it's in the test
00:18:15.790 00:18:15.800 fixture there we go pretty close so now
00:18:20.800 00:18:20.810 what I'm going to do is apply a bit of
00:18:23.290 00:18:23.300 heat to this
00:18:25.530 00:18:25.540 now again I keep in mind that this is a
00:18:27.150 00:18:27.160 polypropylene cap so I really don't want
00:18:28.920 00:18:28.930 to heat this too hot or damage the unit
00:18:30.770 00:18:30.780 but you know I'll heat it to the point
00:18:32.970 00:18:32.980 to where it would you know get warm and
00:18:34.680 00:18:34.690 service
00:18:42.210 00:18:42.220 all right so that would be about the
00:18:44.070 00:18:44.080 temperature would get in service look at
00:18:46.619 00:18:46.629 that no problems at all as you can see a
00:18:51.720 00:18:51.730 lot more stable than the other capacitor
00:18:54.480 00:18:54.490 way way way more stable all right and
00:18:58.200 00:18:58.210 grab it here with my fingers as you can
00:19:01.980 00:19:01.990 see as I put my fingers on it very
00:19:05.789 00:19:05.799 stable
00:19:06.419 00:19:06.429 that was me moving it in the vise
00:19:08.399 00:19:08.409 they're very very stable capacitors so
00:19:11.549 00:19:11.559 great for audio and stuff like that that
00:19:13.909 00:19:13.919 really is the three capacitors of
00:19:16.320 00:19:16.330 interest here actually I could go grab a
00:19:18.690 00:19:18.700 tantalum as well I'll go grab a tantalum
00:19:20.490 00:19:20.500 it will be right back I have a dipped
00:19:23.610 00:19:23.620 tantalum capacitor in the Vice here I'm
00:19:26.220 00:19:26.230 sure we have lots of interesting horror
00:19:28.019 00:19:28.029 stories about dipped alum capacitors if
00:19:30.240 00:19:30.250 you got some let's hear about them so
00:19:32.669 00:19:32.679 anyways what I'm going to do is I'll
00:19:34.529 00:19:34.539 heat this and we'll take a look at the
00:19:35.999 00:19:36.009 gen right here again alright so we're at
00:19:42.269 00:19:42.279 about 4.7 micro farad we're not going to
00:19:44.610 00:19:44.620 really get too much more particular than
00:19:46.350 00:19:46.360 that so
00:19:48.580 00:19:48.590 they're all this is it an NGO style
00:19:51.739 00:19:51.749 capacitor anything so I'm heating the
00:19:53.149 00:19:53.159 tool up here again and I'll run it
00:19:55.489 00:19:55.499 across here just a couple of times and
00:19:58.460 00:19:58.470 that would be blazing hot right now four
00:20:02.029 00:20:02.039 point seven nine not too bad not bad at
00:20:07.159 00:20:07.169 all so you can see these are relatively
00:20:09.980 00:20:09.990 stable they're good in timing circuits
00:20:11.480 00:20:11.490 and things like that of course I've
00:20:13.759 00:20:13.769 heated this thing way hotter than it
00:20:15.109 00:20:15.119 would ever get in service but still
00:20:17.230 00:20:17.240 gives you an idea of how much they
00:20:19.279 00:20:19.289 really move especially when they get
00:20:20.869 00:20:20.879 screaming hot for this next
00:20:23.659 00:20:23.669 demonstration I'm going to use this
00:20:25.129 00:20:25.139 Tektronix
00:20:26.029 00:20:26.039 type 547 oscilloscope with this high
00:20:30.080 00:20:30.090 gain plugin so right now I've got this
00:20:32.869 00:20:32.879 calibrated to show 500 micro volts per
00:20:36.590 00:20:36.600 division on the screen what I'm going to
00:20:39.499 00:20:39.509 do is take this ceramic capacitor I'm
00:20:42.139 00:20:42.149 going to put it on the front here this
00:20:43.909 00:20:43.919 is a point 1 micro farad capacitor
00:20:46.249 00:20:46.259 it's a Zed 5 V style and I'm going to
00:20:50.600 00:20:50.610 tap it ever so slightly with this
00:20:53.320 00:20:53.330 insulated rod right here the noise you
00:20:57.019 00:20:57.029 see on the screen of the oscilloscope
00:20:58.129 00:20:58.139 right now is from me I'm standing about
00:21:00.019 00:21:00.029 three feet away from the oscilloscope
00:21:01.789 00:21:01.799 and just that capacitor poking out of
00:21:03.680 00:21:03.690 the front is acting as an antenna
00:21:04.999 00:21:05.009 picking me up and a little bit of the
00:21:07.190 00:21:07.200 tripod and camera as well so what I'm
00:21:09.169 00:21:09.179 going to do is touch the face of the
00:21:11.869 00:21:11.879 oscilloscope and that will ground my
00:21:13.580 00:21:13.590 body out a little bit keep that
00:21:15.889 00:21:15.899 interference down just a bit if I was to
00:21:18.109 00:21:18.119 ground the tripod out it probably almost
00:21:19.970 00:21:19.980 get a nice clean trace so now what I'm
00:21:22.549 00:21:22.559 going to do is I'm going to tap this
00:21:23.779 00:21:23.789 capacitor with this rod and watch what
00:21:25.609 00:21:25.619 happens on the screen when you see the
00:21:28.009 00:21:28.019 trace moving up and down like that don't
00:21:29.570 00:21:29.580 pay any attention to that that's just my
00:21:30.950 00:21:30.960 hand moving here that's how sensitive
00:21:32.629 00:21:32.639 this is but you'll see another effect
00:21:34.639 00:21:34.649 here in just a moment so here I go
00:21:41.240 00:21:41.250 see all that there how it's going below
00:21:43.950 00:21:43.960 the line that's creating voltage when
00:21:48.000 00:21:48.010 I'm tapping this capacitor and that's
00:21:49.920 00:21:49.930 called a piezoelectric effect and that's
00:21:52.530 00:21:52.540 why these capacitors here are absolutely
00:21:55.650 00:21:55.660 no good in audio amplifiers or in any
00:21:58.290 00:21:58.300 kind of high vibration atmosphere so
00:22:00.870 00:22:00.880 just think if this was in an amplifier
00:22:02.640 00:22:02.650 on the stage of an auditorium and it was
00:22:04.530 00:22:04.540 very very loud and this was leaning up
00:22:06.240 00:22:06.250 against the chassis and just ever so
00:22:07.890 00:22:07.900 slightly buzzing the amount of noise
00:22:10.320 00:22:10.330 that this would create into the circuit
00:22:12.360 00:22:12.370 would be absolutely incredible
00:22:14.090 00:22:14.100 so from the trace deflected downwards we
00:22:17.400 00:22:17.410 had from what I could see about 1.5 to 2
00:22:20.220 00:22:20.230 millivolts worth of you know spikes
00:22:23.160 00:22:23.170 there it was exceeding the graticule
00:22:24.870 00:22:24.880 just a little bit there on one or two of
00:22:26.700 00:22:26.710 little bumps and I'm just ever so
00:22:28.830 00:22:28.840 slightly tapping that so it's creating
00:22:31.830 00:22:31.840 quite a bit of voltage alright so what
00:22:34.470 00:22:34.480 I'll do now is I'll plug in this
00:22:39.000 00:22:39.010 polypropylene capacitor and we'll see
00:22:41.310 00:22:41.320 what it does so again I'll get rid of
00:22:45.840 00:22:45.850 some of that hum now I'm going to tap
00:22:49.050 00:22:49.060 this here again don't pay any attention
00:22:50.310 00:22:50.320 to that bobbing of the trace that you
00:22:52.110 00:22:52.120 see there that's just me moving my hand
00:22:53.580 00:22:53.590 up and down so when I'm tapping it
00:22:55.170 00:22:55.180 that's just the movement of my hand as
00:22:57.060 00:22:57.070 you can see so again we're just looking
00:22:58.830 00:22:58.840 for those spikes so here I go as you can
00:23:06.000 00:23:06.010 see absolutely no spikes there
00:23:08.010 00:23:08.020 whatsoever and I'm hitting this actually
00:23:10.830 00:23:10.840 pretty hard and that's why polypropylene
00:23:15.990 00:23:16.000 capacitors are great for audio
00:23:19.020 00:23:19.030 amplifiers and high vibration atmosphere
00:23:21.240 00:23:21.250 because they don't have any of that
00:23:22.710 00:23:22.720 piezoelectric effect now again these
00:23:25.770 00:23:25.780 other capacitors are great for RF
00:23:27.390 00:23:27.400 bypassing these ones here are great for
00:23:29.640 00:23:29.650 RF bypassing but in a low vibration
00:23:31.440 00:23:31.450 environment again I hope you found the
00:23:36.300 00:23:36.310 information in this tech tips Tuesday
00:23:38.340 00:23:38.350 useful if you did you can let me know by
00:23:40.380 00:23:40.390 giving me a big thumbs up and hang
00:23:42.450 00:23:42.460 around there will be many more videos
00:23:43.830 00:23:43.840 just like this in the very near future
00:23:45.150 00:23:45.160 touching on all sorts of different
00:23:47.040 00:23:47.050 topics related to electronics so until
00:23:49.800 00:23:49.810 that time take care bye for now
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